How to avoid the friendzone/subsitute bf crap and get her?

cyalater28r

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Ok, I am not that great at this DJ stuff. Ive been reading the bible as much as I have time so that I wont be posting crap on the board but I could use a quick response so please bare with me if this question is redundant.

Im sorry if this is long but ill try to make it readable. You see, im not confident in my ability to evaluate my skills or her interest level and time is working against me so Id like your guys opinions.

I usually have a huge problem ending up meeting girls I like and getting stuck in the friend zone. I am looking at a girl currently that I want to end that problem with.


I have been over at her place alot, maybe a bit too much im not sure. But we built up a real good rapport and I think I see some levels of interest. This is what I think im doing right according to the bible:
1. Kino is working good, she is comfortable touching me and resting her head by my lap while watching tv.

2. Mystery is working excellent, she says im a great listener b/c in just 2 weeks she has told me pretty much everything about herself and she knows only one thing about me ( I put myself in a good light as a tough but sensitive guy) and even said how im a mystery

3. She seems to be inventing reasons why i should come around and visit, i.e. helping her with things she can easily do herself.

4. I am trying to bust out of my being an androgynous asexual guy and throwing in comments as much as I can teasing her about her ass and jokingly hinting at sexual stuff. She seems to enjoy it. And in general im giving plenty of neg hits but doing them right- she doesnt get offended.

5. Sence of humor, she is always laughing her ass off and saying how im the funniest guy shes met in a long time, etc. I have a good humor.

Here is where I may be screwing up / things that make me wonder about her IL let me know:
1. I am over alot lately. She is used to me comming over 9 and leaving at around 12 watching tv and talking (90% her talking) and stuff. I dont think this is smart on my part to always be around so i should cut back.

2. She repeatedly has been asking to tell her about my past relationships (i wont talk about them) and once asked me if I am interested in a mutual friend of ours (i wasnt so I said no)

3. Here is the big one. She has been with a guy for awhile but they have been really on the rocks lately. She doesnt seem happy but at least said (i know actions speak louder though) that she wont cheat if they are still together. In my opinion they are more together than apart if for no other reason than because its kind of routine. BUT, I know for a fact that when they have their breaks she will be with a guy she is interested in in hopes that he will be her new bf.

4. She has tried hard to get me to listen to her problems with her bf/ get my opinion and advice. I think it would be bad for him to be a subject of conversation so I flat out say thats not my department. - I think if I become her shrink and listen to bf problems that ill be friendzoned for sure. However she did insist that i listen to one thing which is that she is pissed that they arent officially together yet he feels he can do whatever and she has to be faithful (is this her trying to tell me something?)

SO, the end goal for me is to get out of the trap of being a substitute boyfriend but with no sex/friendzone crap.

Based on what Ive told you, do you think and how do you think i should proceed so that I can get her when the boyfriend and them temporarily split (this i think will happen soon). I dont want the type of girl that would cheat on a long term boyfriend so I wont try that stuff- but if they are breifly separated I dont feel its wrong.

Can I do it? I think im doing more things right than wrong but my problem is going to be clearly moving out of the playful flirting and testing her interest.
 

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I think I read through 20% of this post and it is clear to me as well as anyone else on this board that she likes you.

As a man by nature you are suppose to represent "power" so knowing that you have to know that if you are having this much trouble moving forward she has to have about 200X that. She has did her part it's on you, and there is no other relevant advice beside to DO SOMETHING

This girl is crazy about you, and Im pretty sure she has good reason to be, so now make a move.
 

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Hmmm.. it sounds to me like you're already in the 'friends zone', because any girl that was serious getting with you would not talk about her BF around you.

She also wouldn't have you around that much either .. it would not only introduce temptation if she didn't intend to cheat, but would anger her BF - which you say they aren't officially together 'yet' as she put it.

If you really want her, tell her to let you know when that relationship is over. She's using you to fill a void he isn't filling - at least the emotional one ;)
 

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Originally posted by Royal Elite
I think I read through 20% of this post and it is clear to me as well as anyone else on this board that she likes you.

As a man by nature you are suppose to represent "power" so knowing that you have to know that if you are having this much trouble moving forward she has to have about 200X that. She has did her part it's on you, and there is no other relevant advice beside to DO SOMETHING

This girl is crazy about you, and Im pretty sure she has good reason to be, so now make a move.

Royal Elite: I think I read through 20% of this post and it is clear to me as well as anyone else on this board that she likes you.

As a man by nature you are suppose to represent "power" so knowing that you have to know that if you are having this much trouble moving forward she has to have about 200X that. She has did her part it's on you, and there is no other relevant advice beside to DO SOMETHING

This girl is crazy about you, and Im pretty sure she has good reason to be, so now make a move [/B][/QUOTE]



I think both posts make sense. On the one hand she may very well like you, on the other, since she does talk about her bf and ask your advice on things concerning her relationship with some other guy then that could mean that she has only has interest in you as a friend.

My advice:BE PATIENT WITH THIS GIRL-PURSUE OTHER GIRLS-SHE SHOULD NOT BE YOUR ONE AND ONLY HOPE FOR SEX. Now if you really want to bang this girl then you better make a move! Trust me man, I know exactly what you're going through. A chick pal throws a lot of interest signs then goes on to talk about her bf or other guys. She feels comfortable being close to you as if you were the bf himself.. I know the torment...Now what I can't understand is how do you be over this chick's house for hours on end-and not make one-single move? Not trying to put you down or anything but I'm just baffled. Let a hot female friend of mine invite me over her house "To watch T.V."....WOOOOO!!!! You just don't know what you have going man! I don't see how things just hasn't naturally happened. I mean two adults-one of them for sure is horny-nothing happens...Maybe you are leaving something out because it doesn't make sense...

Make a Move man---What are you waiting for? For her to say come and take ME!!! Well its not going to happen bucko..she awaits for you!
 

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Make a move son.. if you haven't gave her the triangle gaze and kissed her yet u better do so.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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I think I read through 20% of this post and it is clear to me as well as anyone else on this board that she likes you.
She likes you.... AS A FRIEND.

While she's banging this bad boy who is challenging enough to keep her in the sack. She's got you for an emotional tampon. Hey, you know why does she have to dump him, she gets to be screwed in 4 directions and gets you for all the friends stuff that's the best of both worlds!

You are spending way to much time with a girl you have not made the moves on.

Grab your shriveling sack and do something or bugger off and find a available girl.

All talk and no play gives makes Jack a frikkin AFC with blue balls.

Kaine
 

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Do you want the girl to be your girlfriend?

Kiss her and grope her.

If you're scared of losing her as a friend, you gotta ask yourself this question. Do you want a female friend or a girlfriend? If you just want a female friend, do nothing. If you want a girlfriend, you do something.

SIMPLE?

I HOPE MY KICK ASS POST GETS TO THE REST OF THE DUMBASSES ON HERE.
 
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