How to avoid the friend zone by younger women?

[reorex]

Hello, I'm a 36 year old guy that has come off a long term relationship about a year ago. I recently started "dating" again but need a bit of advice because I have found that I'm overall, attracted to younger women because they have less baggage, no kids, are more fun/outgoing, etc.

So far I've been out with women who are 22, 26, and 29. I'm a outgoing friendly guy and have no problem just striking up a conversation, etc. but am not generally "on the prowl".

When interested in a woman closer to my age, say 35 and above, I make it quite clear my intentions by strong flirting, touching, etc. I feel this best because if we have a date and it doesn't click, it's a lot easier going from date to friends than from friends to date!

However, when approaching younger women, say under 30, my understanding of the general rule for older guys is to go slowly and not be aggressive so you build trust, ease, etc. Otherwise, you easily get put in the "creepy old guy" zone! Unfortunately, this is the exact behavior (for lack of better term, "being a nice guy" that lands you smack into friend zone!)

So here lies my question. How is it best to make clear your intentions with a younger woman while not coming across as the creepy old guy? BTW, believe it or not, the 22 yr old is much more mature than girls in their 30's I've dated in the past.

Suggestions are welcomed!

 

[VikingKing]

Don't be to available. Don't talk on the phone or text unless making plans. Don't spend money on her.

Open with a little rapport, then work on attraction.

 

[Skyline]

However, when approaching younger women, say under 30, my understanding of the general rule for older guys is to go slowly and not be aggressive so you build trust, ease, etc. Otherwise, you easily get put in the "creepy old guy" zone! Unfortunately, this is the exact behavior (for lack of better term, "being a nice guy" that lands you smack into friend zone!)

This is not how you get into the friend zone. (Past expert here..:nervous: )

In fact, it's quite the opposite. If you don't escalate at all, you end up spilling your guts to her, you make her A queen, you cling to her to the next dimension, and focus solely on her, then you will be friend zoned.

If I were in your situation, which I will be in 20 years, I would treat them how I treat any other girl. I would aim for what I call, the Don Juan type of friendship. This type is basically light flirting, light teasing, of course kino, sexual topics(WHEN THEY ARISE), talking about other girls to them (say a girl walks by, comment how shes attractive etc. but don't get all consumed by it.) and overall just having fun, nothing serious.

I've been doing this lately(for expanding social circle purposes) and what it's doing is basically setting up the foundation to possible bang or date the girl. If you do it right, in my experience, all it takes is a push. Obviously this approach is a bit slower than others, but if you wish to be cautious then this is the best because it develops more rapport and shows you what an awesome guy you are right off the bat.

 

[skinnyguy]

You need to ask them for sex Immediately.

If they say no delete their numbers and move on.

 

[zekko]

Don't be to available. Don't talk on the phone or text unless making plans. Don't spend money on her.

Better yet, don't talk to her at all. Don't even look at her.
In fact, don't even get within 100 feet of her. Ever.

 

[bigneil]

The right age for 36 is 25+ in general. You are now 18x2 so you go through a sea change at 36.

You need to let the girl decide if you are too old. Assume you are not.

 

[evan12]

Creepy most of the time mean , you didn't come across a normal social interaction, so when old man hit on young girl , she think it creepy because there is no socially acceptable reason for that man to talk with her .
if you are social person , you should be able to find a reason that you can start conversation without seem socially awkward.
as long as you are talking with her under some acceptable social conditions, you are free to flirt with her .

 

[scottvfly]

No problem here, I'm 33 and I date women of all ages myself.. Heres the thing with young women if you chase your done for, don't be available to there beck and call, they enjoy the game so game her, don't let her game you. One of my favorites is to go out with one I got put into the zone with, and open other women at the same night. When you do this, makes thing very easy as they see you there with a woman gives you social value in there eyes,

Close young woman, don't chase let them do the chasing its what they enjoy and I find it fun to chased after as long as it doesn't get weird