How to ask women to come along for ... ?

[Silx]

Hey,

please help me with 2 'cases' I am struggling with right now. How to recover one opportunity and how to invite other one out?

I have known the first girl for 3 years, we have been chatting on and off every 6 months. When one of us has wanted to get together, the other one hasn't been able to make it work. She wanted to come over once for wine, in summer. I was packing for a trip that night and couldn't have her around. Blew the chance #1.
I ignored her for a while from September, unfriended her in Facebook and in December started talking to her again. We agreed to meet to watch Sherlock and drink tomato juice some time(ongoing joke between us, it's healthier than wine and serves the same purpose). I asked her 2 times to come to my place for it, she replied, "Interesting proposal, I can't make it that night."
Then I took a massage course, asked her to come to my place to practice. So she got a couple of massages, enjoyed them and wanted to come back for more.
I did not escalate things sexually, actually needed the practice to pass the exam. After last massage I asked her to come along to an improv theatre show and she did. We enjoyed the show and drank a bit. Then I ****ed up - went in for the kiss, on the cheek, on the bus stop. She closed her eyes and turned her lips to me. I should've gone for the lips and sealed that part. Now she wants to be friends on Facebook again (no way) and takes days to answer my texts.

How can I recover from that mess?

Met the second girl through work, she's my client at the moment so we are meeting every few weeks. She seemed very interested and acts a bit nervous around me. Last time we met we talked about yoga. We take different yoga classes and thought it would be fun for the other one to try different class.

We were chatting on Facebook yesterday again and I reminded her of yoga, told her to come along tomorrow evening. I know her schedule and the days she's not working. She replied, "ow, unfortunately I have plans for tomorrow."
(My guess: I should have called her and talked about stuff for a bit before inviting her to come along, instead of just blurting it out.)

How can I invite women to do something so they'd most likely accept the plans and actually come along?
I would like to think they should probably offer alternative options to make it work, if for some reason they can't make it.

I'm 27 and not that experienced in dating yet. I used to be very naive and it took a few brief relationships to show me the real world. Few years ago I had a bad relationship, then withdrew from dating and now I'm getting myself back into the game again.

 

[GotED?]

Most women are going to play a little head game with you in the beginning, especially LAST MINUTE DATE OFFERINGS are a big no no. They have tons of pride and would put up a front that they are 'busy' even though they are at home eatin' phucken Hagen-Daaz icecream and watching the TV.

You made a mistake of not having PLANNED AHEAD with her, it is a sign of respect that most women look for in a man in leadership and planning skills. What's going through her hamster brain is 'IS he interested in me enough to properly think through and ask me a date scheduled AHEAD of time??'.

Even then, there's no guarantee she is going to flake.

You seem to lack self-confidence, JUST DO IT. You don't want to go through life regretting what you DID NOT DO versus what you TRIED and know you did your best.

Best regards,

Exodus

 

[RagingBalls]

They have tons of pride and would put up a front that they are 'busy' even though they are at home eatin' phucken Hagen-Daaz icecream and watching the TV.

Eating that strawberry flavoured Hagen-Daaz in the sofa while she feels sorry for herself that it could've been a warm hard k0ck she was licking and sucking...while she was rubbing an ice cream cone in her moist klit.

 

[GotED?]

Eating that strawberry flavoured Hagen-Daaz in the sofa while she feels sorry for herself that it could've been a warm hard k0ck she was licking and sucking...while she was rubbing an ice cream cone in her moist klit.

DAMN DUDE - I'll have what he's having.

 

[Silx]

GotED?, thanks.

 

[GotED?]

By the way, for the first girl that you missed the 'Lip Kiss'...

Not that big of a deal, if a woman's interest in you was skyrocketing, a man can DO NO WRONG NO MATTER WHAT. So if her interest in you was skyrocketing, then it would actually just make her more sexually frustrated and builds up the sexual tension of her wanting that FIRST REAL kiss from you (but don't wait a fooken year! LOL).

When a guy falls into FRIENDZONE, is because he's not acting like a REAL MAN and is needy, weak, unsure, lack confidence, and doesn't have his game in place.

So for the first girl, go NC for a few weeks, and hit her up again just ONCE (via text, whatever). If she does not respond positively as you like, NC her forever (until she may suprise you one day and contact you). Sometimes you must let things go (more in your mind) and allow them to come back on their own, if it is meant to be. It is also a very bad idea to invite a girl to YOUR PLACE the first (or even 2nd/3rd time depending on her feeling of safety with you) attempt to get together, it is almost an automatic rejection unless she's a HO. Most women's initial instinct of anything is one of FEAR - she FEARS you because she doesn't TRUST you yet, and no matter what you do, your primary objective in a woman initially is to PROVE to her that she is SAFE with you and that takes TIME. RAPE and SEXUAL ASSAULT is very real in a woman's world, you must be very aware of how a woman has to be worried about a lot more things than us men when it comes to bodily harm.

Why waste your time on women with low interest - it is a vampiric connection and you can use that energy and focus on women who really want you.

Additional BONUS technique: A few Master Don Juan's on here agree on this tactic - easiest non-threatening way to ask a woman out is to say you are going to be doing something on this upcoming day and time, and you would like her to to join you because she would provide great company. (for example: 'Hey Jane, I am going to see this movie on Friday night at 6pm at this movie theater location, however watching it alone can be a bit boring and would be much more fun with you coming along"). Be specific about the day and time, and avoid Saturday night as it is too serious for the first or second meeting. If it is in the beginning, try a day time activity as it is a bit more casual, night time usually provides a deeper purpose for a meeting between a man and a woman. If she can't make it, and she has HIGH INTEREST in you, she WILL COUNTEROFFER. If not, go NC on her for a few more weeks.

Be well.

Exodus