How the game changes based on your looks

[Taviii]

I couldn't agree more bro! You get points for that post! lol

I'm not good looking and I ain't got real Don Juan skills and my female class colleagues still consider me a player.

Once I chatted with one on the net, it went something like this:

Girl: -So do you have a girlfriend?
Taviii: -Nah, I'm not really successful with girls...
G: -Yeah right :crackup: that's the biggest lie I ever heard...
T: -No seriously...
G: -Right, that's why you flirt with all the girls you see around...

Hahaha stupid girl...

 

[Charm]

A good response for that would have been... actually they all flirt with me.

 

[DanelMadr]

I'm not good looking and I ain't got real Don Juan skills and my female class colleagues still consider me a player.

Once I chatted with one on the net, it went something like this:

Girl: -So do you have a girlfriend?
Taviii: -Nah, I'm not really successful with girls...
G: -Yeah right :crackup: that's the biggest lie I ever heard...
T: -No seriously...
G: -Right, that's why you flirt with all the girls you see around...

Hahaha stupid girl...

In a closed social group it is not a problem....because they know you and like you anyway. It's a problem when approaching stranger girl.....'Good classy girls dont give numbers to Players' paradigm.

For your story...they don't know for sure, thats why she is asking....and she is asking to let you know, she wants your attention too, lucky you Dont disappoint her!

 

[So Many Ways]

Where the hell do all of you "good looking guys" live? I'm probably slightly above average in looks and get hit on at least twice a month by good looking girls. Seriously, without even trying. I also have a lot of good looking guy friends and the same happens to them. Come to think of it the one who is probably the best looking out of all of us never is without a girl. The guys personality is mediocre at best too. In some cases I think you guys might not be as good looking as you think, in others you may have some serious social problems. Sorry to break it to you - but good looks are an advantage and if you aren't capitilizing on them it is due to some other flaw.

And whats with the fairy tale that keeps getting repeated around here as of recent that good looking girls dont get hit on? When really good looking girls say that they dont get hit on they are lying, or just oblivious. What that really means is that they get hit on all the time just not by anyone who they want to get hit on by.

Yes, some common sense in this thread. Every friend of mine I've ever had who was good looking was rarely without a female. One buddy of mine back in the day literally would get hit on or approached several times a week. I remember a female making a u-turn in her car just to talk to him.

Being good looking is a big advantage, and if you guys are actually as good looking as you say you are, then something else is going horribly wrong in your presentation.

Lookswise, I'm probably above average, maybe, that's it but I've blown literally dozens of opportunities because something went horribly wrong with my game and they lost interest. That's probably what's happening to you guys.

 

[NorPacWolf]

Irony of Good Looks

Yes, some common sense in this thread. Every friend of mine I've ever had who was good looking was rarely without a female...I've blown literally dozens of opportunities because something went horribly wrong with my game and they lost interest. That's probably what's happening to you guys.

...Certainly, that's the gist of this thread: good looking guys with weak game. Your appearance can affect other aspects of your life, and not always in a positive way. For example, work:

I don't really like to mention this, but I've *not* been hired for several jobs because of my appearance. That is, on paper, my qualifications look great. But when I show up for the face to face interview, my (apparent) youth and appearance become a hindrance. The clientele in my line of work are predominantly female but there is bar in fraternization between male workers and female clientele. Violating this bar could lead to lawsuits. I've been told not very subtly by several employers that they are not willing to take such a risk.

I am not happy about this, as a clean cut professional appearance is supposed to be an edge. Very ironic that you try to look your best and it disqualifies you for jobs you are more than qualified for.

 

[So Many Ways]

...Certainly, that's the gist of this thread: good looking guys with weak game. Your appearance can affect other aspects of your life, and not always in a positive way. For example, work:

I don't really like to mention this, but I've *not* been hired for several jobs because of my appearance. That is, on paper, my qualifications look great. But when I show up for the face to face interview, my (apparent) youth and appearance become a hindrance. The clientele in my line of work are predominantly female but there is bar in fraternization between male workers and female clientele. Violating this bar could lead to lawsuits. I've been told not very subtly by several employers that they are not willing to take such a risk.

I am not happy about this, as a clean cut professional appearance is supposed to be an edge. Very ironic that you try to look your best and it disqualifies you for jobs you are more than qualified for.

Really, stuff like that actually happens? Weird.

Anyway, I didn't claim to be super good looking or anything of the sort but these are some of the things that have happened to friends of mine that are.

1. Woman making a u turn just so she could pull aside and talk to him
2. Women approaching my friend in the mall, this happened more times than I can count.
3. I saw 2 girls once tug on this guys arm, trying to pull him away from the other.
4. Girls blatantly staring, like deer in the headlights, that kind of thing.
5. Cashiers, female sales clerks and waitresses would shamelessly flirt with him all the time.

That was just one friend of mine. Plus if he actually did approach, he'd get the number around 90% of the time. That's not an exaggeration.

When I was in my early 20's, I used to go party with these 3 other dudes. We were all into working out, but they got results from working out and I didn't. Needless to say, when we would hit the clubs, these guys literally had swarms of women around them all the time. It was ridiculous. I might get a number every now and then but these guys, girls would just be in awe of them a lot of the time. You'd have to be some kind of retard not to get laid if you have that going for you.

That's why I have a hard time believing these guy's stories. It just doesn't add up at all.

 

[Silverback82]

1. Woman making a u turn just so she could pull aside and talk to him

I can't imagine any girl doing that

 

[OfficeSpace]

I can't imagine any girl doing that

Me neither... Although I've had quite a few older women comment to their friend sitting next to them how handsome I am.. (thinking I don't hear them)

Stared at all the time I can totally believe. I get that ALL the time.. Almost every time I go out.

But still, women approaching? Yeah it happens, but they're usually below an HB 7 when it happens to me.. So they don't count in my book.

Important idea is we men have to make the moves.. no matter how good looking!

 

[Bonhomme]

Charm's post is a direct hit.

I have an acquaintance who is pretty good-looking (not great looking), but in a lot of bands, is a really, really, nice guy, not especially masculine, nor effeminate, has lots of female friends, and gets more action than just about anyone I know.

He does a lot of things people here would consider totally "AFC," but the point is he's not average. The "friendzone" doesn't exist for this fellow. He doesn't seem to be monogamous, and it appears the gals don't let that deter them. He's confident, but not ****y, and again, very, very nice.

If you're "hot," being personable and having female friends can be reassuring to gals who may be concerned that you'd just have your way with and discard them. Of course, if you're just looking for FBs, if you're good enough looking, all you need to do it make women aware of it...

 

[Manonamission]

I've got to say I didn't consider myself to be the handsomest thing to inhabit the earth. However after working out and gaining some muscle, I've had countless compliments of how I'm "good looking" from girls my age and younger, and also how when they first met me they were "intimidated" by me. That makes sense because I heard through the grapevine that this one younger chick was obsessed with me in high school, when I tried to talk to her, she turned bright red and just said "i have to go bye". I didn't know what I did wrong, turns out she probably was scared ****less of me actually talking to her.

 

[JHeights83rd]

On this good looks thing, I think looks are relative and based on perception. I think when you are 'average looking' that means that some women think your completely unattractive, some think your sexy, and more think your 'ok'.

originally posted by Aerospace

No, seriously... at the end it's all about confidence. If even you good looking guys face this kind of issues, it must be true that looks aren't what takes p*ssy home.

When you pick a girl up, as long as you dont say some stupid ****, its all looks. Now some of it is your genetic facial features but other stuff is your body language. But she is not forming judgements about your personality with in the short time youre picking her up. In clubs, for example, the music is so loud, shes not gonna claim to know your personality. When she forms interest in the beggining its because she thinks youre good looking. On the flip side of that, if she deads you, its because you either used one of those 1980s pu lines or most likely she didnt think you were good looking at all, no interest. there has to be value, like looks or money. Otherwise you just spitting some c & f at her and challenge and neg hits, shes thinking like "yeah whatever, youre the ****."

originally posted by aerospace (not to pick on him today but mostly posts with these ideas)

... by the way let's avoid this 'beautiful girls are shy and alone' thinking fashion because we all know that 95% of the time they are shallow, mono-dimensional wh*res that only follow stupid things like looks or popularity

This is hypocritical, do you judge women on their personalities? I doubt it. You probably want nothing to do with hb 7s or lower.
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[JHeights83rd]

variation on looks

Generally, if your friends tell you youre sexy, thats not that serious, of course theyre gonna tell you that. Trust me, that guy you think is better looking than you, thinks hes good looking himself, good get some girls that are feeling him alot, but other girls are going to say, yeah, hes just average/ok. American women admire the muscles and ruggedness of Vin Diesil, and Russ Crowe. However, women in the East, like Japan, they admire the more smoothness and delicateness of models. Even Sam Cassell, not everybody thinks hes ugly, hes ok to some women.

just attempting to show variation of looks. not all women are at home dreaming of being swept off their feet by the same man. and yes they fantacize about how he looks, they dont become euphoric because of the c f line he says to her.

Some guys like Jack Nicholson, Denzel Washington, George Clooney, and the late Tu-Pac, have power and influence and therefore, sexy to majority of American and some international women.

 

[JHeights83rd]

How good looking guys come across

Ok Good looking guys: Guys who have perfected their facial features and gear and hair to appear sexy to a lot of women.

(1) good looking guys who use alot of c & f, neg hits, and challenge, (ofcourse naturally they apply this things, not conscious effort), are jerk types. They come across as being the extreme narcisisist. Alot of rich guys are like this. They have money and good looks, but theyre the jerk type.

(2) good looking guys who are challenge. They live the s**t life (full of fun) but contribute nothing to society. they usually have a primitive pull and slash mentality. eg (a) go out to rob liquor store at gunpoint, take $100, but might do some time (b) go smash car windows for the little bit of adventure and pride, but gets caught and may do time community service for it. They have an exterior of self assurance and overly machoness. Badboy, Bikers, Superthug. Women love these guys for relationships and/or booty calls. This doesnt include true hustler.

(3) good looking afc ass kisser type. women use him for one nighters, and some women get into relationships with this guy and ***** whip him.

The first two categories, the guy is c&f and a challenge because hes sexy, he has so many women on him and he lives the s*** life of fun. If you guys did c&f, too much, youd end up like the first type. Jerks and pricks get women. YOud rather be an azzhole than an azzkiss right? and about the statement that classy women dont give their # to players; if you step to her with one of those 1980s pu lines, shell think youre a player but if shes feeling your convo, its good. Women cant tell when they first meet you whether youre a player who will hurt her but they can pick up whether youre experienced or not. Women want a man thats in demand. If you go to a restaurant at dinner time and nobodys eating there, what are you gonna think?

 

[DonMEgaHoss]

Definitely JHeights Not all women are gonna find the same guy sexy.

But it is not all looks If you dont have the confidence behind that like having enough confidence to approach and not being shy

If your shy and good looking very rarely chicks will approach you. Merely by being imtimidated by your looks but you wont be able to do $hit if your imtimidated of her TOO! So confidence is important dude! Otherwise it would be a stale-mate nothing happens... nothing happens at all.

 

[DonMEgaHoss]

Life in all its glory is about moderation. Not one extreme to another. Jerk to nice guy what ever..

Thats why if your goodlooking you should turned the ****iness down some and just bee funny.

You dont have to show her your the catch threw words your looks have already done that. So Just show her that your down to earth by just simple being funny and confident.

Im neither a jerk or a nice guy. I have something to offer the world.. By lifeguarding saving lifes when needed and have done. But Im not a doormate
I will put my foot down at the first moment of disrespect or hositility.

 

[Amateur_FOR_NOW]

At some point in the near future, a new theory will emerge: good-looking-guy seduction theory or something along those lines. Mystery Method and David D's theory are designed to help socially and physically below average guys. The good looking guy theory is a paradigm shift about to happen.

Wolf

True, btu how long do I wait???

 

[Amateur_FOR_NOW]

At some point in the near future, a new theory will emerge: good-looking-guy seduction theory or something along those lines. Mystery Method and David D's theory are designed to help socially and physically below average guys. The good looking guy theory is a paradigm shift about to happen.

Wolf

True, btu how long do I wait??? Do these dating gurus have answers to this question, what is their stance on it?

 

[DanelMadr]

Really, stuff like that actually happens? Weird.

Anyway, I didn't claim to be super good looking or anything of the sort but these are some of the things that have happened to friends of mine that are.

1. Woman making a u turn just so she could pull aside and talk to him
2. Women approaching my friend in the mall, this happened more times than I can count.
3. I saw 2 girls once tug on this guys arm, trying to pull him away from the other.
4. Girls blatantly staring, like deer in the headlights, that kind of thing.
5. Cashiers, female sales clerks and waitresses would shamelessly flirt with him all the time.

That was just one friend of mine. Plus if he actually did approach, he'd get the number around 90% of the time. That's not an exaggeration.

When I was in my early 20's, I used to go party with these 3 other dudes. We were all into working out, but they got results from working out and I didn't. Needless to say, when we would hit the clubs, these guys literally had swarms of women around them all the time. It was ridiculous. I might get a number every now and then but these guys, girls would just be in awe of them a lot of the time. You'd have to be some kind of retard not to get laid if you have that going for you.

That's why I have a hard time believing these guy's stories. It just doesn't add up at all.

Yeah same things happen to me too. I wrote this...http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=100572...check it out.

You know flirting and lot of attention wont get you laid. Most of these girls are in scale 1-6 or just enjoying the thrill of it with LTR boyfriends. You know problem is just Balance in the game and that is what we are trying to find here. Experience of others. If someone say he cant get laid because hes good looking...he is lying to himself. He is either pvssy or over do of something c&f and stuff.

 

[chickenlegs03]

I posted once here already...but let me just say I agree completely with what "So Many Ways" said. Perhaps having done more approaches since I last posted has enhanced my perspective. So screw what I said about being good-looking.

That's why I have a hard time believing these guy's stories. It just doesn't add up at all.

...Mission, I think you're just rusty. Trust me...I'm getting back in the game now, and by that I mean my confidence was low before...very low.

So even when girls would notice me or 'hit on' me I'd do everything in my mind to convince myself it was some coincidence. But doing some approaches has got my head screwed on straight again. This isn't psuedo kj advice here...all I'm saying is do some approaches. You'll be surprised what it does to your confidence and your awareness.

This whole good-looking thing is an excuse for your laziness, and your ego getting the best of you and your self-esteem...all jumbled together. I was there only a short while ago...Snap out of it guys, and get out in the field. Don't ever expect anything to just fall in your lap. Make things happen.

oh, and great post Charm...good points...I'm testing that out now...just trying to make friends with and get to know lots of girls rather than go the sexual route...just expand my social circle. this works a ton better in a smaller town/area.

 

[Amateur_FOR_NOW]

SICKBOY is a PUA who is a very good-looking male model and he specializes with game for good-looking guys, does anyone have articles or anything by this SICKBOY PUA?