How should women work out??

[Berlex]

i'd like to take some pictures...for the...uhh.....archives.

hahah...good movie

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

you can have all the soft women you want, i'll take the tight ones. enjoy!

(I don't know what about their hips you're not seeing, except that they're wearing exercise pants over them. you prefer them flabby? like ludacris' big bottomed dancers on leno last night? reminded me of sir mix-a-lot...)

I'm right with you on that one. And as for not seeing any hips... Too bad they weren't wearing shorts, I am sure that each of them were pretty tight (little to no wiggle when they were on the rings). Body's like theirs will hold together much longer than those soft squishy Twinkie women.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

...give me definition: dancers, rock climbers, surfers, soccer players, beach volleyballers, pilates instructors, fitness models. hardbodies.....

Add to that list cyclist, yoga instructors (I guess that goes along with pilates instructors), swimmers, and gymnists. Ain't nothing sexier than an active and fit woman. They're fun to date and are very interesting and seldom boring.

 

[spesmilitis]

I'm not seeing the hips because their waists are far too huge to have a good waist to hip ratio. If you watch the beginning of the video the girl with the black half shirt's waist is very thick from the side. Women are supposed to have slim waists with wide hips. Then when they're on the rings you can tell that their waists are rather wide as well. Which is a masculine trait. The woman in the white shirt also has a wide back.
All of these are masculine traits. Six packs on women are unattractive to me. I don't want a woman that has a six pack. If I wanted to get off to a six pack I'd stare in the mirror and whack it.
And no I don't prefer them flabby. Women in rap videos are gross. What I'm talking about is that women should have a soft layer of fat over their body so that their musculature isn't defined. Which is what I mean by a soft look. Not a roll of fat so that they jiggle.

Your sexual preferences are that derived from unhealthy social conditioning.
Why do women like muscular men? Cuz those were the type of people most likely to survive back in the day. Since there was no reason to change that preference, women today still like muscular men. Back in the day, men probably had a preference from strong, healthy, athletic women with great hips. Why? Cuz those were the women most likely to survive. However, as society evolved, it was fat women who were considered attractive. They were the women who grew up with wealth, and had enough to eat. They were the most likely to survive, not frail starving peasants. As society evolved more, and developed a middle class, it was the weak girly girl figure that was considered attractive. They were the girls who grew up with wealth, so they didn't have to go out and work like normal girls did. Back then, a weak body was a sign up nobility, thus the weak girl figure was considered most attractive.

However, we are not returning to our natural instincts. Just like how men are returning to their natural instincts from sosuave and other places, women are doing they same. It not considered attractive for men to be metrosexual afc's, and now its not considered attractive anymore for women to be weak and anerexic. Women should exercise, play competitive sports, have hobbies, and live out their passions.

Who are the women considered most attractive by society? Britney spears, J.lo, beyonce knowles (sp?), shakira, ect. All these women danced alot started when they were kids. That was years on constant stimulation in the hips. What girls do you know today that look like that? The only girls i've seen with similiar features are athletic girls who were seriously into thier sports, and started sports from a young age.

Another word on social conditioning. Its just not physiques, but for some cultures, its skin color too. In the philipines and india, the most attractive girls are considered the fair, light skined girls. Its cuz back in the day, those girls grew up with wealth and didn't have to go outside and work, they never got tanned. They were they girls with the highest survival rates, and thus most attractive to society.

 

[wootapotky]

Your sexual preferences are that derived from unhealthy social conditioning.
Why do women like muscular men? Cuz those were the type of people most likely to survive back in the day. Since there was no reason to change that preference, women today still like muscular men. Back in the day, men probably had a preference from strong, healthy, athletic women with great hips. Why? Cuz those were the women most likely to survive. However, as society evolved, it was fat women who were considered attractive. They were the women who grew up with wealth, and had enough to eat. They were the most likely to survive, not frail starving peasants. As society evolved more, and developed a middle class, it was the weak girly girl figure that was considered attractive. They were the girls who grew up with wealth, so they didn't have to go out and work like normal girls did. Back then, a weak body was a sign up nobility, thus the weak girl figure was considered most attractive.

However, we are not returning to our natural instincts. Just like how men are returning to their natural instincts from sosuave and other places, women are doing they same. It not considered attractive for men to be metrosexual afc's, and now its not considered attractive anymore for women to be weak and anerexic. Women should exercise, play competitive sports, have hobbies, and live out their passions.

Who are the women considered most attractive by society? Britney spears, J.lo, beyonce knowles (sp?), shakira, ect. All these women danced alot started when they were kids. That was years on constant stimulation in the hips. What girls do you know today that look like that? The only girls i've seen with similiar features are athletic girls who were seriously into thier sports, and started sports from a young age.

Another word on social conditioning. Its just not physiques, but for some cultures, its skin color too. In the philipines and india, the most attractive girls are considered the fair, light skined girls. Its cuz back in the day, those girls grew up with wealth and didn't have to go outside and work, they never got tanned. They were they girls with the highest survival rates, and thus most attractive to society.

The women in the video that was posted do not have great hips. I don't know why you would think that. Their waists are far too thick to have great hips. I do not like fat or chubby women. I never said anything against yoga intructors or dancers either. The women in this video have muscular shoulders, gross to me, muscular backs, very gross to me, and thick waists, gross to me.

This is the type of body I like. (probably nsfw)
http://www.break.com/pictures_nsfw/bbnsfw439.html

Slim waist great hips not a big back. She is not in any way fat or chubby, but she doesn't have a hard edge to her look either.

http://www.pattayamail.com/423/home.jpg
The girl on the right is a good example of what I don't like in the waist to hip ratio. She's got a thick waist which is what I was talking about for the women in the video.

 

[Throttle]

I suspect that you're vastly underestimating the role of genetics on waist-to-hip ratio. Both of your volleyball players in that picture are appx. at the same level of muscular development & fitness, but the one on the left appears to have significantly wider hips, thus appealing to that instinct that looks for "good baby carryin' hips." I contend that a woman with otherwise attractive ratios & other features (esp. beautiful eyes and a great smile!) has nothing to fear by putting some sinews on those bones.

And to go back to spes' original question, I think the only way for a gal to screw her waist-to-hip ratio would be to spend too much time working on her obliques and what-not rather than straightforward weighted sit-ups (good for abs & hip flexors). But with all this stuff, my advice to any woman is to try it on "for size"... going back is as easy as laying off the lifting & protein.

 

[Throttle]

to go back to your original objections:

The women in that video looked pretty masculine to me. Personally I think they're gross looking.

I think you're perfectly entitled to your opinions.

Women aren't supposed to be toned they're supposed to be soft looking and the women in this video have no hips whatsoever.

I don't appreciate the societal norms this attitude represents, and I cheer on any woman who rebels against them--hell, even if she takes it a little overboard for my taste. I also cheer on a culture that is moving past that and is beginning to reject stereotypes that are unattainable by most women (who lack the genetics) in favor of an empowering attitude: any woman can add muscle, reduce bodyfat, and gain the confidence that comes with that. And a confident woman is dead sexy.

I jeer the commercialism that makes it all about "losing weight" -- for both men and women. I jeer the mistaken emphasis on BMI since it takes no account of lean muscle mass. :box: And I jeer the latent homophobia that fears "masculine" women. I've seen masculine women. The dominate the pro fbb circuit. I don't appreciate that aesthetically. But it reminds me of what I do like.

 

[Ice Cold]

There's no way around the fact that good waist to ass is sexy.

You can't get it by dieting. You can't get it by not working.

You need to really be healthy and active to get it. Forget the whales eating fastfood. There are lots girls out there with misdirected effort to reduce weight no matter what. They end up looking anorexic and hurt their health, while they could've been awesome hotties.

And it's only natural for women to be on the "soft side" In fact, I know some girls who are very far from lean who are good looking, but they all exersize and train a lot.

 

[spesmilitis]

Found this:

http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=277

Haven't had a chance to read the whole thing, but looks very solid.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Found this:

http://www.wannabebig.com/article.php?articleid=277

Haven't had a chance to read the whole thing, but looks very solid.

Nice find, it's a good article. Basically says what was stated in the thread but goes into good detail about diet and hypothetical situations.

 

[Throttle]

and it has the advantage of being written by a woman (if that helps). very solid.

 

[Celadus]

THat video is of a crossfit class. It focuses on functional fitness. I do it twice a week. Won't get you big but it makes for some hot women. Lots of leg work, which leads to what I call "Crossfit Ass". It does give you a thick waist because the core is important to athletic movements like olympic lifting and other things we do. One of the coaches, Eva, is a beast. www.crossfit.com, look at Wednesday's picture. She's an olympic skier or something. There are a couple other videos on the website and the affliates.

Celadus