How Porn Addiction Destroys Men’s Brains and How to Escape It

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

As someone who at most has done 2 weeks on NoFap, it makes a difference because it actually makes you want to go out and chase women. When I was constantly watching porn and being inside, I had no drive to go out and chase women.

It affects me the opposite lol.

 

[corrector]

It's been screwing me up a lot when I have had too much down time but something I have been thinking of, what if you only watch SOLOS where you imagine yourself screwing a check as opposed to seeing her screwing another dude?

You are looking at the same types of things I look at. It's still porn, especially if you start using a sex-toy that's actually moulded with a porn-stars pvssy, and start using Virtual Reality to further enhance the experience. You can make it a hyper-realistic experience. I haven't gone there because who I am (as religious), and feel it's just as bad as any other types of porn on principle.

 

[Mike32ct]

I've always thought a lot of PUA methods work like this. Guys think they have the secret to attraction, they think they have the advantage, and that makes them confident, and that makes them get out there and interact with girls in a confident way, then they have some success, which gives them encouragement for the future. And it all probably had more to do with believing in themselves and taking action as opposed to any method they were using.

Agree completely. And it’s actually a good thing. It’s a form of “fake it until you make it.”

It’s probably one of the few viable paths from zero to a true abundance mindset.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Personally, porn gives me a fast convenient outlet for personal release.
It also serves a secondary purpose as making me completely jizzed out so I
don't ever entertain stupid thoughts of interacting with a real female, which
as we all well know is a pathway directly to abject misery. I'd sooner fap than deal
with these ghoulish women, they're quite insufferable.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Gentlemen,

It's all about your perception. Many of us are socially programmed to feel shame for masturbating. Do I believe that No Fap is beneficial? Yes! Testosterone builds up, libido builds up, all while practicing self discipline. Internet porn is a serious addiction. There are many alternatives to Internet porn/masturbation that are healthier and less diminishing on your manhood.

Have any of you tried masturbating with just your imagination? I would consider this much healthier since you are using visualization techniques rather than training your mind to seeing the hottest, horniest porn stars doing what we fantasize about. You want to get on a woman's level? read some erotica and see if you can refrain from jerking it. Although many do watch porn, most women can use their imagination to turn themselves on. I believe this is a much healthier way to release while also expanding your mind and getting in touch with your sexuality.

I highly recommend kegel exercises. The pc muscle is your pelvic floor muscle that you squeeze when you are holding your urine in. When trained, this muscle is highly effective in men's and women's sexual health. Practicing kegels is a great way to transmute the horniness you feel down there, into a challenging but productive and benefical exercise that can help your erections among other benefits.

In my experiences, meditation is probably the most potent tool for training your mind to be present enough to refrain from hindering desires. Emotional regulation, indifference, calmness, and discipline, are just a few of the benefits that I have gained from my meditation practice (about 7 years now). Practicing meditation has been pivotal in helping me with women. I am able to control my emotions no matter what is thrown at me, and always stay cool, calm and collective. I can harness the sexual sensations I feel when I'm vibing with a girl and stay present with her. This is so valuable as a seducer.

For my seasoned playas... I am big on pics and videos of my women. I have a whole vault of pics and vids girls send me, as well as when we're together. I get a good percentage of my women to let me record our hook ups. These are vids that I go back to if I want to masturbate because It feels better on my ego knowing that it's MY **** putting in work!

The tall and short of it is that NO FAP is beneficial, but don't kill yourselves about it. Practice it, but enjoy the journey using different strategies that benefit you!

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Personally, porn gives me a fast convenient outlet for personal release.
It also serves a secondary purpose as making me completely jizzed out so I
don't ever entertain stupid thoughts of interacting with a real female, which
as we all well know is a pathway directly to abject misery. I'd sooner fap than deal
with these ghoulish women, they're quite insufferable.

@lost_blackbird See, you're the type of cat that has the mindset that it's always the women's fault. When will you guys accept women for who they are and realize that it's YOU. I'm going to call out any of ya'll who try to diminish women. That's simp beta ****. "Pathway directly to abject misery?" See to me, it's a pathway to self improvement, living life to the fullest, conquering limitin beliefs, reaching your potential, success, and pleasure. There's a difference between being against feminism and being a no ***** getting beta mysoginist... lol **** ain't cool bro. Your hate for women is what holds you back. But hey, you're prolly better off not approaching anyone since you sound like you'll commit a crime if you get your little heart hurt again.

 

[corrector]

Personally, porn gives me a fast convenient outlet for personal release.
It also serves a secondary purpose as making me completely jizzed out so I
don't ever entertain stupid thoughts of interacting with a real female, which
as we all well know is a pathway directly to abject misery. I'd sooner fap than deal
with these ghoulish women, they're quite insufferable.

Try the wingmam youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/c/WingmamTV/videos

I think her videos might be compatible with your mind-set. Discovered this yesterday accidentally.

 

[corrector]

Have any of you tried masturbating with just your imagination?

That is all I have to masturbate on in the moment. I might plan to look at internet stuff later on in the month. I'm masterubated the other day in imagining what I might plan to look at in the event I were to reconvene looking at internet porn near the end of the month.

 

[lost_blackbird]

@lost_blackbird See, you're the type of cat that has the mindset that it's always the women's fault. When will you guys accept women for who they are and realize that it's YOU. I'm going to call out any of ya'll who try to diminish women. That's simp beta ****. "Pathway directly to abject misery?" See to me, it's a pathway to self improvement, living life to the fullest, conquering limitin beliefs, reaching your potential, success, and pleasure. There's a difference between being against feminism and being a no ***** getting beta mysoginist... lol **** ain't cool bro. Your hate for women is what holds you back. But hey, you're prolly better off not approaching anyone since you sound like you'll commit a crime if you get your little heart hurt again.

Have you finished Buttercup? Took me a while to decipher your appalling Americanised version of English. I'm afraid I'll
have to use the real thing to reply. Your first assertion is that you'll "call out any of ya'll who try to diminish women".
Classic white knight stuff, but I'm the simp? You may need to have a little read up on the definition of simp. Frankly, I'd stand
and watch a woman die in fire rather than put myself at risk to help her. I wouldn't give these women the steam off of
my p1ss. Absolutely 0% of them would ever come running if I was in trouble and I'm a big believer in equality (the real kind,
not the warped feminist version) so they get automatically from me the male privilege of 'having to sort your own problems out'.

Let me tell you something, I've gotten to the point in my life where I've learned that I am not compatible with females.
Bear in mind young man, that I was busting it open while you were still crawling around on a carpet somewhere trying
to figure out where it is okay to poop . I have considerably more life experience than yourself. I am also autistic, an incurable
issue that will remain with me for the rest of my days. No amount of lifting weights, spinning plates, eating clean, improving
myself or any of the other worn out tropes on here that guarantee a tsunami of females begging for it (apparently) will make
the slightest bit of difference. What I have done is learned to accept that I am irretrievably broken and rather than keep
banging my head against a brick wall where females and all their mental BS is concerned, that I reject them all. I'm very good
at it, heading full steam to 4 years without sexual contact. I really dont care if I'm attracted to someone or not, I'll never act
upon it. I never have. I have never approached a woman in my entire life. Not once. It's funny, I was going through some old
photographs only last night, among them were pics of some of my ex's. I'd forgotten how attractive some of them were.
Each and every one of them approached me initially.

Have you been married? I doubt it. I have, was with the same female for nearly 20 years. It was quite the case study.
That one stalked me for 10 weeks around every rock club in London. Still ended up in the sh1tter though, regardless.
Lessons learned moving forward? No tolerance for female antics is the main one. I have all the tools required for success
with ladies, I just don't want the job anymore. Because that 's what a relationship is, a second job. For the record, I am 6ft,
full head of hair, slim/athletic, decent jaw, above average musculature although I don't work out at all, own my house outright
with enough savings to purchase another one, I can play musical instruments, can cook and clean better than the majority
of females I 've met, with my background in construction, I could literally build a house from the ground up, inside and out,
I ride a badass motorcycle, I'm well travelled, decently educated with autistic superpowers, I have green eyes (the rarest colour)
which really pop because I'm tanned year round. Hell, I'm even tatted up. I get IOIs almost every time I'm out in public (which
admittedly is a rarity these days because I'm in hermit mode, with no need to work, I rarely leave my house apart from for groceries)
but I choose to angrily glare my way through any interest shown. I have an awesome angry face, it's completely unapproachable.
It's my favourite mask. I can 'pop it on' in under a second and it becomes a very effective force field against everybody. I've learned
that the moment you become friendly with someone, that's when the trouble starts. Read up on autistic masking. You never know,
you might just learn something.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Try the wingmam youtube channel. https://www.youtube.com/c/WingmamTV/videos

I think her videos might be compatible with your mind-set. Discovered this yesterday accidentally.

Yeah, I've seen her sh1t. She's way off the mark with the likes of me. Most of my hostility toward
women isn't restricted to women. I don't particularly like other people much, regardless of gender.
I'm just as uninterested in chasing friendships, in my experience they always go the same way as
relationships. I've been best man for three different men. I don't speak to any of them anymore.

 

[Ricky]

I've always thought a lot of PUA methods work like this. Guys think they have the secret to attraction, they think they have the advantage, and that makes them confident, and that makes them get out there and interact with girls in a confident way, then they have some success, which gives them encouragement for the future. And it all probably had more to do with believing in themselves and taking action as opposed to any method they were using.

As for the main topic, I agree it is best to stay away from masturbation and especially porn, but some guys are just oversexed. I've known guys who get laid routinely, but they say they will masturbate 10 times a day. Some guys have that kind of sex drive.

That last paragraph described me. Plenty of action from my wife but still super high drive. The fantasy world that videos depict was something i had experience and knowledge from my past in ended up nearly destroying my marriage

 

[corrector]

Have you finished Buttercup? Took me a while to decipher your appalling Americanised version of English. I'm afraid I'll
have to use the real thing to reply. Your first assertion is that you'll "call out any of ya'll who try to diminish women".
Classic white knight stuff, but I'm the simp? You may need to have a little read up on the definition of simp. Frankly, I'd stand
and watch a woman die in fire rather than put myself at risk to help her. I wouldn't give these women the steam off of
my p1ss. Absolutely 0% of them would ever come running if I was in trouble and I'm a big believer in equality (the real kind,
not the warped feminist version) so they get automatically from me the male privilege of 'having to sort your own problems out'.

Let me tell you something, I've gotten to the point in my life where I've learned that I am not compatible with females.
Bear in mind young man, that I was busting it open while you were still crawling around on a carpet somewhere trying
to figure out where it is okay to poop . I have considerably more life experience than yourself. I am also autistic, an incurable
issue that will remain with me for the rest of my days. No amount of lifting weights, spinning plates, eating clean, improving
myself or any of the other worn out tropes on here that guarantee a tsunami of females begging for it (apparently) will make
the slightest bit of difference. What I have done is learned to accept that I am irretrievably broken and rather than keep
banging my head against a brick wall where females and all their mental BS is concerned, that I reject them all. I'm very good
at it, heading full steam to 4 years without sexual contact. I really dont care if I'm attracted to someone or not, I'll never act
upon it. I never have. I have never approached a woman in my entire life. Not once. It's funny, I was going through some old
photographs only last night, among them were pics of some of my ex's. I'd forgotten how attractive some of them were.
Each and every one of them approached me initially.

Have you been married? I doubt it. I have, was with the same female for nearly 20 years. It was quite the case study.
That one stalked me for 10 weeks around every rock club in London. Still ended up in the sh1tter though, regardless.
Lessons learned moving forward? No tolerance for female antics is the main one. I have all the tools required for success
with ladies, I just don't want the job anymore. Because that 's what a relationship is, a second job. For the record, I am 6ft,
full head of hair, slim/athletic, decent jaw, above average musculature although I don't work out at all, own my house outright
with enough savings to purchase another one, I can play musical instruments, can cook and clean better than the majority
of females I 've met, with my background in construction, I could literally build a house from the ground up, inside and out,
I ride a badass motorcycle, I'm well travelled, decently educated with autistic superpowers, I have green eyes (the rarest colour)
which really pop because I'm tanned year round. Hell, I'm even tatted up. I get IOIs almost every time I'm out in public (which
admittedly is a rarity these days because I'm in hermit mode, with no need to work, I rarely leave my house apart from for groceries)
but I choose to angrily glare my way through any interest shown. I have an awesome angry face, it's completely unapproachable.
It's my favourite mask. I can 'pop it on' in under a second and it becomes a very effective force field against everybody. I've learned
that the moment you become friendly with someone, that's when the trouble starts. Read up on autistic masking. You never know,
you might just learn something.

Oddly enough, I've found this music video theraputic. Is weird, but when I played it, it brought up all the positive "pleutonic" and non-sexual good memories with women.

Maybe there is some good memories buried in your mind that need to be reactivated. I discovered it a couple of days ago and was shocked at how many buried positive memories I had with women in the past. (ie not the "larger than life marriage/relationship ones" but the more quiet plutonic encounters) Even dead-enders looked positive. It's like wearing a pair of rose-coloured glasses. It's like a bit of a twilight zone to be honest.

But it might not work...its worth a try though. Not sure why this activated positive memories with women because there is nothing in the song, lyrics, or type of singer that would logically lead to that. It was nice when it happened through. The effect of this song has faded out at this time.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

Have you finished Buttercup? Took me a while to decipher your appalling Americanised version of English. I'm afraid I'll
have to use the real thing to reply. Your first assertion is that you'll "call out any of ya'll who try to diminish women".
Classic white knight stuff, but I'm the simp? You may need to have a little read up on the definition of simp. Frankly, I'd stand
and watch a woman die in fire rather than put myself at risk to help her. I wouldn't give these women the steam off of
my p1ss. Absolutely 0% of them would ever come running if I was in trouble and I'm a big believer in equality (the real kind,
not the warped feminist version) so they get automatically from me the male privilege of 'having to sort your own problems out'.

Let me tell you something, I've gotten to the point in my life where I've learned that I am not compatible with females.
Bear in mind young man, that I was busting it open while you were still crawling around on a carpet somewhere trying
to figure out where it is okay to poop . I have considerably more life experience than yourself. I am also autistic, an incurable
issue that will remain with me for the rest of my days. No amount of lifting weights, spinning plates, eating clean, improving
myself or any of the other worn out tropes on here that guarantee a tsunami of females begging for it (apparently) will make
the slightest bit of difference. What I have done is learned to accept that I am irretrievably broken and rather than keep
banging my head against a brick wall where females and all their mental BS is concerned, that I reject them all. I'm very good
at it, heading full steam to 4 years without sexual contact. I really dont care if I'm attracted to someone or not, I'll never act
upon it. I never have. I have never approached a woman in my entire life. Not once. It's funny, I was going through some old
photographs only last night, among them were pics of some of my ex's. I'd forgotten how attractive some of them were.
Each and every one of them approached me initially.

Have you been married? I doubt it. I have, was with the same female for nearly 20 years. It was quite the case study.
Lessons learned moving forward? No tolerance for female antics is the main one. I have all the tools required for success with ladies,
I just don't want the job anymore. Because that 's what a relationship is, a second job. For the record, I am 6ft, full head of hair, slim/athletic, decent jaw, above average musculature although I don't work out at all, own my house outright with enough savings to purchase another one, I can play musical instruments, can cook and clean better than the majority of females I 've met, with my background in construction, I could literally build a house from the ground up, inside and out, I ride a badass motorcycle, I'm well
travelled, decently educated with autistic superpowers, I have green eyes (the rarest colour) which really pop because I'm tanned year round. Hell, I'm even tatted up. I get IOIs almost every time I'm out in public (which admittedly is a rarity these days because I'm in
hermit mode, with no need to work, I rarely leave my house apart from for groceries) but I choose to angrily glare my way through
them anyway. I have an awesome angry face, it's completely unapproachable. It's my favorite mask. I can 'pop it on' in under a second
and it becomes a very effective force field against everybody. I've learned that the moment you become friendly with someone,
that's when the trouble starts. Read up on autistic masking. You never know, you might just learn something.

@lost_blackbird thank you so much for the pathetic life story you sweet Incel

I have worked with autistic teenagers for years and have a masters in developmental psychology, so I know quite a bit about autism. I'm sharing since you felt compelled to share your background and how experienced and "badass" you are with your hobbies, skills, and resources, how good looking you are, etc. You're pretty high value, but as I always say, you can be high value and BETA. You're only way out of being BETA is living like a hermit, cutting out all human connection, so that you can tell yourself "I'm living on my own terms." So you're a black pill cat who comments on forums. Since you portray yourself to be such an independent, self assured man, I'm sure you'll be able to handle the fact that IDGAF whether you're autistic or not. Same way you don't care about women. Just making sure you can handle the same fire you spit out.

A white knight is someone who will suck up to women and cater to their needs, just to try and impress or maybe hook up with them. My comment to you was more of a shot at your pathetic mindset rather than saving anyone. Nice try. You actually were a white knight for 20 years so I'd be quick to use that term also. I stand by what I said in my "americanized version" of "calling ya'll out". As long as I'm on this forum dropping and sharing knowledge with other like minded individuals, I will let mysoginists like you know that they ain't ****! You like how i said AIN'T? or did it bother you? The man typing this is a smooth motherfcker with a bad ass mouthpiece. I hope it hurts you inside knowing that I get girls *****'s wet just by my verbal seduction skills.

You may have been on this earth longer, but lets subtract the 20 year marriage that I'm assuming consisted of you being the SIMP, which led to your heart being burned to pieces. If you have all of the tools for the ladies, then use them to get your rocks off without being in a relationship. Oh wait, you don't know how to get what you want out of women without being in a relationship. But you say you aren't attracted to women at all? Then enjoy your lonely, A-Sexual life, and keep your mysoginistic thoughts to yourself, or accept that someone like me will call you out. You said it yourself that you don't like people and lost contact with three former best men. So my question is why are you wasting your time on a forum that is meant to help men? You want attention. You're bored. You're pathetic. I'll pray for you my poor old Incel.

Peace

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Different issue.

Still wondering why porn gives men the wrong idea about sex.

Same issue. Actually, it is the core of the issue. But it appears you do not see it, and that is the issue.

Sex is not a social transaction. It was never meant to be a surface-level transaction, at least not in the development of our specific species which the closest are the chimps. This is why I asked the question about Chimps vs Bonobos that you clearly missed or do not the difference to.

In porn, sex is a social and selfish transaction. Not to mention real-life sex doesn't like that at all unless you watch amateur porn.

Anyway, I'm pretty positive you still don't see the issue nor will want to research sex throughout evolution, sex revolution in the 60's, sex related to female empowerment, etc and clearly you are a porn fan so let's agree to disagree.


Modern Man Advice

 

[corrector]

@lost_blackbird thank you so much for the pathetic life story you sweet Incel

I have worked with autistic teenagers for years and have a masters in developmental psychology, so I know quite a bit about autism. I'm sharing since you felt compelled to share your background and how experienced and "badass" you are with your hobbies, skills, and resources, how good looking you are, etc. You're pretty high value, but as I always say, you can be high value and BETA. You're only way out of being BETA is living like a hermit, cutting out all human connection, so that you can tell yourself "I'm living on my own terms." So you're a black pill cat who comments on forums. Since you portray yourself to be such an independent, self assured man, I'm sure you'll be able to handle the fact that IDGAF whether you're autistic or not. Same way you don't care about women. Just making sure you can handle the same fire you spit out.

A white knight is someone who will suck up to women and cater to their needs, just to try and impress or maybe hook up with them. My comment to you was more of a shot at your pathetic mindset rather than saving anyone. Nice try. You actually were a white knight for 20 years so I'd be quick to use that term also. I stand by what I said in my "americanized version" of "calling ya'll out". As long as I'm on this forum dropping and sharing knowledge with other like minded individuals, I will let mysoginists like you know that they ain't ****! You like how i said AIN'T? or did it bother you? The man typing this is a smooth motherfcker with a bad ass mouthpiece. I hope it hurts you inside knowing that I get girls *****'s wet just by my verbal seduction skills.

You may have been on this earth longer, but lets subtract the 20 year marriage that I'm assuming consisted of you being the SIMP, which led to your heart being burned to pieces. If you have all of the tools for the ladies, then use them to get your rocks off without being in a relationship. Oh wait, you don't know how to get what you want out of women without being in a relationship. But you say you aren't attracted to women at all? Then enjoy your lonely, A-Sexual life, and keep your mysoginistic thoughts to yourself, or accept that someone like me will call you out. You said it yourself that you don't like people and lost contact with three former best men. So my question is why are you wasting your time on a forum that is meant to help men? You want attention. You're bored. You're pathetic. I'll pray for you my poor old Incel.

Peace

He is not incel though. He is volcel, sounds like MTGOW-monk mode camp, maybe even totally asexual.

If what he is saying is true, then he has no issue picking up women in public, OLD, but does not WANT to

There is nothing wrong with his mind-set because that is his choice and he has signed-off on it.

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

He is not incel though. He is volcel, sounds like MTGOW-monk mode camp, maybe even totally asexual.

If what he is saying is true, then he has no issue picking up women in public, OLD, but does not WANT to

There is nothing wrong with his mind-set because that is his choice and he has signed-off on it.

He's choosing to be an incel lol
By definition, sure he's "Volcel". Doesn't change the fact that I don't think he benefits anyone by posting on here. I think he chooses not to because it's easier for his little heart to swallow the black pill. That's like me saying "I can still drop 30 points a game, but I choose not to." Nobody really knows whether I can or not but myself. I think it's pathetic.

 

[corrector]

He's choosing to be an incel lol
By definition, sure he's "Volcel". Doesn't change the fact that I don't think he benefits by posting from being here. I think he chooses not to because it's easier for his little heart to swallow the black pill. That's like me saying "I can still drop 30 points a game, but I choose not to." Nobody really knows whether I can or not but myself. I think it's pathetic.

You can't choose to be incel. (INvoluntary CELibacy -- involuntary.)

If he has so much traction with women as he claims then what more of an exercise of choice do you need?

 

[SmoothHendrixPS2]

You can't choose to be incel. (INvoluntary CELibacy -- involuntary.)

If he has so much traction with women as he claims then what more of an exercise of choice do you need?

I don't need anything. If it ends with "Cel", you're not a monk, AND you speak the way he does about women, I have no respect.

 

[Gamisch]

You can't choose to be incel. (INvoluntary CELibacy -- involuntary.)

If he has so much traction with women as he claims then what more of an exercise of choice do you need?

This is thread worthy. Men over here ask " how many women have you slept with?" all the time. But basically the past doesn't matter if it doesn't benefits you today. You are better of being a former incel who picked up game recently, than being a self proclaimed player who does nothing.

On one hand I would suggest removing poster such as @lostblackbird , because they add absolutely nothing to the niche we are all about over here (seduction), but on the other hand he is a very very realistic example what can happen when you are in a long LTR , and come out of it completely broken.

There are many men like him who go from bluepilled straight to black pill. Somebody give this man a redpill, so he can let go of the anger 1(!!) woman caused him, and realize all men go through at some point in their lifetime.

 

[lost_blackbird]

Believe me the lack of respect is entirely mutual.

Couple of points.
It's asexual not A-sexual. But it's a fairish description even in your pidgin English. I think I'd probably
identify as 'demi-sexual on a good day'. At the end of the day, it's a wet hole. That's it.

I was celibate for 7 years prior to meeting who I'd marry. My mistake was thinking she was different.
In any case I left her not the other way around. In fact I left the marital bed four years before I split with
her. I truly did hope she might see what her behaviour had manifested in me in time to save something
tangible from the marriage which is why I never bailed completely at the same time. At least one of us took
the vows seriously. Again, you may have to walk a mile or twenty in my shoes before your opinion is valid.

My heart is fine, thanks for your concern, 66bpm resting rate. And I can handle all the fire you've got, and then
some. I've been criticised and ostracised my entire life, so the opinion of some yank, barely out of short trousers
bothers me about as much as rain does. I'm far more concerned that someone, apparently with a Masters
degree, writes so poorly. Thank Allah you're such a smooth, panty soaking, sex mouthpiece or you'd be in trouble.

Edit- Ban him because he doesn't echo our views and outlooks. Very progressive.