How old are you guys?

[silverfox]

Just curious. I couldn't care less when I turned 30 but I am 36 soon and that seems like a much tougher proposition where women are concerned.

Are there guys here who are mid-late 30's who are good at meeting and dating women? Where do you go for this? I always loved the idea of the bookstore of coffee shop approach but never managed a successful one.

 

[Juando]

I am 32. But I live in New York City, where I am certain there are many more single women in their 20s, 30s, and even 40s per capita than most places. Whenever I go back to the Midwest I'm shocked at how many women in their twenties are already married. But I have very little to complain about here....the last woman I dated was 41, never married, and was a dance instructor (which meant a better body than most 25 year olds I've fukked).

And yes, bookstores, coffee shops, farmers markets, parties, billiard halls, museums...wherever people gather, you will find single women.

I recommend grabbing a seat in a coffee shop near the sugar and cream table. Lots of traffic - most girls add this stuff to their drinks. Open with a joke - tell her you are charging 99 cents per ounce of Splenda but will make a deal with her, just 75 cents. (Something stupid like that, I made that up. A stupid joke/comment is a good barometer because if she laughs at it and responds, she's interested.)

I agree.

I am in a different age category so it's a somewhat different kettle of fish,
although I somehow often "forget" and find myself with women like the 28 year old last night.

The whole thing about being in the right "state" is correct- I have had babes literally fall in my lap and be clueless, while other times I was so "on" that I thought nothing of, and successfully picked up a woman in front of her boyfriend.

How do you be "on"? For me it's getting in tune with yourself, mastering your truth so that life, including women, becomes a worthwhile and rewarding challenge.

There are people here, like Interceptor, who are infinitely better at explaining self-mastery.

If you can improve your connection to yourself you will discover that age and venue become less important. There's no formula, you have to re-invent yourself every day but it does become habit-forming.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear SilverFox,
Hate to say it but you are Sooo Wrong,if it isn't getting easier as you get older,then look to yourself.

 

[silverfox]

Dear SilverFox,
Hate to say it but you are Sooo Wrong,if it isn't getting easier as you get older,then look to yourself.

Don't feel bad about that. This is only good news!

I've just been in a bit of a tailspin lately. A lot of the gains I have made over the last few years seem to have evaporated. I am in an LTR that is getting terminal and waking up to the prospect of having to start over so anything about things getting better for the 30 plus crowd is only going to reassure.

As for Juando, having a 28 yo fall into your lap sounds pretty great. Nice work sir.

 

[The Nice Guy is Gone]

Just turned 29 a couple weeks ago.

 

[Jeffst1980]

I second that post on NYC. You will NEVER find an easier city to pick up chicks than NYC. The downside is that many are single for a reason; most of them are caught up in a "sex and the city" mentality that glorifies their inability to maintain relationships, even (especially) as they enter their 30's.

If you're an older guy, your best bet is to move to a metropolitan area of some sort. Small town girls, particularly in the south, tend to be married off in their early 20's, and women there as a whole are far less open to meeting strangers than city girls, despite the whole nasty new yorker stereotype.

The best idea is to simply go where the ratios are favorable: Yoga, dance classes, etc. In those places you will have little competition and receive nearly undivided attention if you're remotely presentable. I have a friend that pulls more HBs than anyone I know as a result of working in musical theatre, which is probably THE industry for easy HB pickups (along with fashion)--it's full of attractive, sexually open women and barely any straight guys. Seriously--it's a gold mine. If you're spending too much time in bars and clubs because of the perceived availability of HBs, it's time to rethink your strategy.

 

[edger]

I second that post on NYC. You will NEVER find an easier city to pick up chicks than NYC.

Jeffst1980, are you sure about that? I sarge in Manhattan every Friday and Saturday, and a GREAT majority of the time only find women who are with males; either their platonic male friends, f*ck buddies, or boyfriends. This is one of the main reasons I haven't gotten laid in a while. Sure a lot of times they're with their platonic male friends, but I for sure don't care to, nor feel comfortable walking up to a chick while her male "platonic" friend is standing right beside her.

Please, you and Samspade, fill me in on where you're hanging out..I'd love to know.

 

[edger]

I am 32. But I live in New York City, where I am certain there are many more single women in their 20s, 30s, and even 40s per capita than most places.

Please, fill me in on which places and area you're hanging out..I'd love to know...cause I can't find too many places in Manhattan where there are women without guys tagging along.

I'm typically on the lower east side. I've heard from Guru1000 that on the lower east side, you usually find most women with guys(platonic male friends, f*ck buddies, boyfriends), but I find it hard to believe it can only be subjected to one area like this. If it's like this in one area, then it would have to be like this in other areas of the city too.

 

[cosmopolit]

I'm 27 but I still look and feel like 20.

 

[Jeffst1980]

I too don't like sarging a girl that's with a dude...most of the time I don't do it. However, if it's a mixed set of 4 or more people, you can befriend the dudes first and then find out the score about the girls---most of the guys are actually "just friends," and as long as you don't come off like a sketchy dude you won't raise any flags by talking to the girls. Just be discreet--a lot of times the girls kinda get off on being discreetly picked up in front of their AFC orbiter friends.

The lower east side has my fave bars, but the guy/girl ratio is pretty bad there. The bleeker st. area has turned into a cheeseball tourist spot, but it does have a wealth of NYU girls...I guess it's a tradeoff. The easiest places to open sets are bars with gimmicks, like Crocodile Lounge. Also, look for places that regularly host bachelorette parties and the like. Union Hall in brooklyn is good for that.

Really, bars aren't even the best places for pickups. There are so many single girls that day game is easy. An easy trick: Look for artistic-looking girls with unusual accessories and compliment them on it. Then, take it from there--you will usually know right away if they're interested. These kind of girls are very comfortable meeting strangers and dress creatively just to get noticed, and if this doesn't spark a conversation with them, they're either not interested or taken.

If all else fails, I'll say it again: Yoga and dance classes. Yes, you'll feel weird at first, but that weird feeling will disappear when the girls there are fighting for your attention.

 

[edger]

An easy trick: Look for artistic-looking girls with unusual accessories and compliment them on it. Then, take it from there--you will usually know right away if they're interested. These kind of girls are very comfortable meeting strangers and dress creatively just to get noticed, and if this doesn't spark a conversation with them, they're either not interested or taken.

Yeah, the artistic chix don't do it for me. They're not "girly" enough for me. They typically don't tend to dress sexy, wear make-up, don't have long polished nails, etc...you get the picture.

If all else fails, I'll say it again: Yoga and dance classes. Yes, you'll feel weird at first, but that weird feeling will disappear when the girls there are fighting for your attention.

Yeah, this does sound like a good idea.

 

[STR8UP]

37 going on 27.

Had a rough time the past couple of years with events that occurred in my life outside of women, but I'm getting back into the swing of things. Before the sh!t hit the fan for me (when I was 34-35) I was getting more attention from women of all ages than at any point in my life.

The key is to keep yourself as fit and young looking as possible physically, and don't buy into the whole mentality that society preaches to us about "acting your age" and all that crap. Carry yourself right and you can do whatever you damn well please at any age.

 

[thedeparted]

I'm 34. About two hours ago I got a 2 pic's from a 20 year old I met online. One her cute smiling face. The other her tasty D-cups ready for action. Sure, it took a couple of emails and a couple of months in between (I had other stuff going on) but those babies are mine come Sunday. And she knows I'm 34. It's the first thing I told her and I'm guessing it's the reason she sent me both pics. She wants to nail down a man, not another college boy. Mid 30's is peak game period. Be glad you're soon gonna be free.

 

[edger]

Hey edger,

I guess i haven't been relying on bars as much as in the past. But what kind of bars do you prefer? Pubs, clubs, lounges...?

I prefer clubs over anything else...although a bar and lounge are cool too once in a while. I just like the vibe better in a club, whereas I seem more restricted in bars and lounges(can't move about and scout around for chicks in bars and lounges the way you can in a club). A club too is just more "alive". It's atmospheric and exciting.

Are there any good clubs in the city that you'd recommend where most of the women for a change, AREN'T with guys? I'll even check out Brooklyn and Queens too if there's good clubs there as well.