How Often Are You Approached/Stared At/Receive IOI's?

[thelambofdeth]

If you know the signs you will see a lot of them during dates, women don't even realise they are doing it.

That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My experience would refute your claims.

Women do Approach.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

I've noticed some today , women will catch me looking and hold eye contact or vice versa noticed it yesterday . They will crack jokes or smile. The more you get out the house the more you will notice it.
Go out to eat somewhere you've never been and sit in , even if by yourself.
Call up your buddies and go out to the park for a game of basketball , maybe a park you've never been to before.
Ditch Netflix and doordash, they reduce your exposure to the outside world. Idk if it's possible but find a video store and visit. Just get outside that damn house.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.

It's not anyone else's problem if someone else doesn't get choosing signals , god helps those who help themselves,if they aren't getting choosing signals I'm almost certain that they know why and what they have to do to fix it.
If you NEVER receive any choosing signals something is most definitely wrong .

 

[Bigpapa]

That's literally what I said...its often subconscious on their part. But even if you know what the signs are and how to recognize them, it doesn't somehow mean everyone gets them. Idk why people don't understand that..too much projecting, imo.

i have seen normal guys with cute gfs . So this kind of things really do happen to normal guys

if you are in shape have a decent face and look like a guy that is doing alright , you should be in top 20% of men

I see NormAl guys with women all the time . Some of them actually really cute

the problem of the normal guy is not that he can not get laid , it is just that he is missing the abundance mentality other guys have

when you do not have an abundance mentality , you will just shoot yourself in the foot both when you are in a relationship , but also when you are in hunting mode , as you will lack
Confidence

so at the end of the day , in most of the cases that guys have it is a matter of mentality and pshihic , rather than an actual problem

 

[Gamisch]

Never. And I'm 6'3, in shape and dress extremely well. But I'm also black and not a 11/10 gigachad in the face like everyone here claims to be so there's that.

If you have the face, though, women will approach.

I am also a black, darkskinned guy and i disagree. I also dont have a perfect t model shaped face. Still I've been approached quite often. Ofcourse not on a daily base, but plenty of times. I think it has mostly to do with the aura of a man ,if that makes sense.

It's also a matter of place and time. If there's a girl who likes black guys and you just happen to be there..

Yesterday there was this festival I visited and I got ioi from everywhere just insane. Funny thing is , I'm 38 now and my vibe and frame is just more confident then when I was 20( and had a fresher face) . I am looking for ioi,s less and get them way more. Yesterday I literally got hit on by a girl while her boyfriend was behind her which almost led to fight

Also I wanna add, you might be missing alot of ioi. But, I am fairly new here and try to sharpen my game.there are Djs with more field experience who can talk about "monetizing "your ioi s.

Just wanna say dont hold back , or feel some type of way because of race, skin color ect. It's all about a mans frame.

 

[thelambofdeth]

It's not anyone else's problem if someone else doesn't get choosing signals , god helps those who help themselves,if they aren't getting choosing signals I'm almost certain that they know why and what they have to do to fix it.
If you NEVER receive any choosing signals something is most definitely wrong .

I didn't say it was anyone else's problem....I missed the part where I asked for advice. I also didn't insinuate that it was right or wrong or whatever if you don't get choosing signals. You're making way too many assumptions. My point was, not everyone gets them, period.

 

[thelambofdeth]

I am also a black, darkskinned guy and i disagree. I also dont have a perfect t model shaped face. Still I've been approached quite often. Ofcourse not on a daily base, but plenty of times. I think it has mostly to do with the aura of a man ,if that makes sense.

It's also a matter of place and time. If there's a girl who likes black guys and you just happen to be there..

Yesterday there was this festival I visited and I got ioi from everywhere just insane. Funny thing is , I'm 38 now and my vibe and frame is just more confident then when I was 20( and had a fresher face) . I am looking for ioi,s less and get them way more. Yesterday I literally got hit on by a girl while her boyfriend was behind her which almost led to fight

Also I wanna add, you might be missing alot of ioi. But, I am fairly new here and try to sharpen my game.there are Djs with more field experience who can talk about "monetizing "your ioi s.

Just wanna say dont hold back , or feel some type of way because of race, skin color ect. It's all about a mans frame.

Dude you can't "disagree". I'm not even dark skinned, and I didn't say "literally black guys never ever never get iois"...I said "I" never get them, and it's just basic logistics that on average depending on numerous factors ethnic men would approached less than their white peers.

But good for your or whatever. Like I said, good-looking guys get approached, you're likely quite a bit better looking than I am. That was the point of my initial post...good-looking guys get iois and approached, regardless of race or whatever. I'm sure if looked like Ben Simmons or Patrick Mahomes, women would approach.

 

[thelambofdeth]

i have seen normal guys with cute gfs . So this kind of things really do happen to normal guys

if you are in shape have a decent face and look like a guy that is doing alright , you should be in top 20% of men

I see NormAl guys with women all the time . Some of them actually really cute

the problem of the normal guy is not that he can not get laid , it is just that he is missing the abundance mentality other guys have

when you do not have an abundance mentality , you will just shoot yourself in the foot both when you are in a relationship , but also when you are in hunting mode , as you will lack
Confidence

so at the end of the day , in most of the cases that guys have it is a matter of mentality and pshihic , rather than an actual problem

Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

I didn't say it was anyone else's problem....I missed the part where I asked for advice. I also didn't insinuate that it was right or wrong or whatever if you don't get choosing signals. You're making way too many assumptions. My point was, not everyone gets them, period.

Yeah you're right bro.

 

[Bigpapa]

Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.

I do not agree . It is about also how you carry yourself which is a big tale sign if you are comfortable with yourself or not

you have to be comfortable with yourself

I see daily normal people that normally dressed and have a normal life with girls

maybe you are just ugly , have no idea, and if this is the case then i have no idea what to say rather than going to escorts to get laid and still be optimistic that you will find a girl to be your gf eventually

 

[Mike32ct]

Normal guys who are either rich, or have very high status...sure. You have to compensate for some manner if you don't have the looks. I'm sure they weren't just "average" across the boards....I'm 6'3, I'm shape( lanky but fit, with broad shoulders) I have legitimate intetest in high fashion so I always dress well, I have hair, and skin regimes, I groom, I wear $300 TF cologne, etc...I've essentially done all I can to maximize my physical appearance sans plastic surgery, yet I'm basically invisible to women. Yet I see guys with a good-looking face who dress like a complete slob and those are the guys who do well. In my experience, it always comes down to the face.

Wow. 6’3” with hair is usually a potent combo.

Fashion makes little difference in my experience. I just dress up for fun because I enjoy it. I’m regularly complimented by women at work on my clothes. But that’s it. It has nothing to do with attraction. It boosts me to “High Tier” Friendzone instead lol.

 

[thelambofdeth]

I do not agree . It is about also how you carry yourself which is a big tale sign if you are comfortable with yourself or not

you have to be comfortable with yourself

I see daily normal people that normally dressed and have a normal life with girls

maybe you are just ugly , have no idea, and if this is the case then i have no idea what to say rather than going to escorts to get laid and still be optimistic that you will find a girl to be your gf eventually

I mean...you don't know if those "normal" guys have a ton of money or have high status or social clout.

Also lol sometimes bad advice is worse than no advice. If a dude is forced to solicit literal wores, I don't think he's going to garner an abundance of optimism regarding ever finding an actual GF...

Wow. 6’3” with hair is usually a potent combo.

Fashion makes little difference in my experience. I just dress up for fun because I enjoy it. I’m regularly complimented by women at work on my clothes. But that’s it. It has nothing to do with attraction. It boosts me to “High Tier” Friendzone instead lol.

Meh, height is overrated. Women will take a short good-looking guy over a tall rando 10/10. Height is really only touted by short men who seek an excuse not to act.

Wayyy ahead of you. If women cared even remotely about attire, I'd be swimming in pVssy. The last time I went out I had no less than 7 different random dudes just tell me "nice fit" or whatever, yet not a single woman said anything.

 

[SW15]

I get some IOIs but don't get approached.

I'm basically invisible to women.

While I will get some women to make strong eye contact and smile, I often feel invisible to women. When I feel invisible, it is when I don't get any IOIs for a bit.

I'd say that during periods when I'm having problems, my biggest problem is not going out into the real world and in front of enough eligible women.

 

[thelambofdeth]

While I will get some women to make strong eye contact and smile, I often feel invisible to women. When I feel invisible, it is when I don't get any IOIs for a bit.

I'd say that during periods when I'm having problems, my biggest problem is not going out into the real world and in front of enough eligible women.

lol how tf can you feel invisible to women if they're literally leering and smiling at you? No, you're invisible to women when they literally don't acknowledge your presence, dude. I feel like some of you guys really expect wayyyy too much, and in many cases, it's just first-world problems.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

I feel like some of you guys really expect wayyyy too much, and in many cases, it's just first-world problems

Most times I expect sex on the first date, is that too much? Sometimes I get it sometimes I don't

 

[SW15]

lol how tf can you feel invisible to women if they're literally leering and smiling at you? No, you're invisible to women when they literally don't acknowledge your presence, dude. I feel like some of you guys really expect wayyyy too much, and in many cases, it's just first-world problems.

I make strong eye contact and/or smile at them first. A very low percentage of these women reciprocate my positive body language. Indoor masking has made this problem worse.

There are times where I won’t get leered at or smiled at for a while. This is when I feel invisible, especially when I am signaling them first.

 

[Gamisch]

Dude you can't "disagree". I'm not even dark skinned, and I didn't say "literally black guys never ever never get iois"...I said "I" never get them, and it's just basic logistics that on average depending on numerous factors ethnic men would approached less than their white peers.

But good for your or whatever. Like I said, good-looking guys get approached, you're likely quite a bit better looking than I am. That was the point of my initial post...good-looking guys get iois and approached, regardless of race or whatever. I'm sure if looked like Ben Simmons or Patrick Mahomes, women would approach.

Besides that I am also bald lol.
I am just saying bro, I see in other threads you talk alot about race skin color and how that effect possible ioi. I just say this in case there's another" black " guy reading along, just to debunk what you are saying. And also if there is any white or brown guy reading this who is in his feelings because of his race ; its not about race or color but how you carry yourself .

But besides that ,I feel like you have a rather cynical ,grim look at dating. I feel like the purpose of this forum is to learn from each other and grow. We all have weak spots which can be improved. Just lay it out a d let the more experienced DJ,s help you bro!!

But hey I am not here to fight you, just wanted to give you a more positive perspective on things. Maybe you should just be a little bit more friendly and open overall, that might increase your succes with women. Bless you my brother , you will find your way!

 

[thelambofdeth]

Besides that I am also bald lol.
I am just saying bro, I see in other threads you talk alot about race skin color and how that effect possible ioi. I just say this in case there's another" black " guy reading along, just to debunk what you are saying. And also if there is any white or brown guy reading this who is in his feelings because of his race ; jm its not about race or color but how you carry yourself .

But besides that ,I feel like you have a rather cynical ,grim look at dating. I feel like the purpose of this forum is to learn from each other and grow. We all have weak spots which can be improved. Just lay it out a d let the more experienced DJ,s help you bro!!

But hey I am not here to fight you, just wanted to give you a more positive perspective on things. Maybe you should just be a little bit more friendly and open overall, that might increase your succes with women. Bless you my brother , you wilk find your way!

...I mentioned race in a thread ABOUT race, and I only mentioned it as an aside in my original comment here. (I even capped my message off by saying in the end, LOOKS trump all, regardless of race) I'm not trying to make this a race thing...but anyone saying race doesn't matter at all, in no capacity is flat-out wrong, and you're setting up a lot of people for disappointment. ESPECIALLY regarding women granting iois. That's humanly impossible. That's like saying looks or weight has NO effect. Anything that separates an individual; becomes a variable in attraction, and possibly a barrier. Women have eyes and preferences and it does factor, again, especially regarding them giving out choosing signals and their willingness or desire to do so. How much depends on how good-looking you are, among other things,(her bias, stereotypes, prejudice, etc) but to pretend it doesn't is pure Disney, fairytale gaslighting.

lol no one's fighting, dude, I'm just calling it like it really is. Maybe if women seemed more "friendly and open" around me, I could do the same. But when a woman is interested she doesn't gaf about your disposition. If you're attractive, you'll get the signals, regardless.

 

[Gamisch]

...I mentioned race in a thread ABOUT race, and I only mentioned it as an aside in my original comment here. (I even capped my message off by saying in the end, LOOKS trump all, regardless of race) I'm not trying to make this a race thing...but anyone saying race doesn't matter at all, in no capacity is flat-out wrong, and you're setting up a lot of people for disappointment. ESPECIALLY regarding women granting iois. That's humanly impossible. That's like saying looks or weight has NO effect. Anything that separates an individual; becomes a variable in attraction, and possibly a barrier. Women have eyes and preferences and it does factor, again, especially regarding them giving out choosing signals and their willingness or desire to do so. How much depends on how good-looking you are, among other things,(her bias, stereotypes, prejudice, etc) but to pretend it doesn't is pure Disney, fairytale gaslighting.

lol no one's fighting, dude, I'm just calling it like it really is. Maybe if women seemed more "friendly and open" around me, I could do the same. But when a woman is interested she doesn't gaf about your disposition. If you're attractive, you'll get the signals, regardless.

I think we wont agree on this topic and thats perfectly fine. But fro my POV, I have friends from all ethnicities; white, Asian Hispanic, Arab ,black, east European. Let me tell you, the most ruthless player was a 5 foot Asian leprechaun sized guy, but his demeanor was just...through the roof.


Also wanna point out, that I moved to a small area where there are mostly white people . Ever since I moved here I had several women telling me I am their first (and sometimes only ) black guy. Yup, she likes blonde surf dudes and ends up with a bald black guy. And never forget, its also just real life porn for women. They are fluid when it comes to these things, why on earth she wouldn't try a black guy for once??

Women don't know what the f they want, its up to you to provide her with an possible new, great ,nice experience.

I know another Caribbean guy ,in his 60,s(!!) Who is banging 20 y.o 8 ,s and 9,s. His secret? He is extremely friendly towards everyone and everything. Doesnt limit himself in no way shape or form. Sky's the limit bro, but you do you ofcourse..