Listen_to_Olly
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I live in NYC and right now, the Coronavirus crisis has the whole city still shut down although things are slowly starting to get better. Unfortunately, well before the Coronavirus, the city was getting hit with a social virus that is bound to get worse in the coming years.
Even many months before all this, I was noticing something over the years that you only notice if you go out almost every weekend into the city. At first, I didn't think much of it but overtime when reflecting, it was troubling.
A while ago, Amazon tried to expand into NYC but the city denied Amazon that right. I was very thankful but for cultural reasons. I have always said and strongly believed that San Francisco and Toronto are without question the worst big cities in North America for dating and meeting women, if not the absolute worst at least top five. After staying in both cities, I noticed that it was not just a potential ratio issue that made them horrible, it was the actual women who live in those cities. The personality, vibe, culture, attitudes, and a mixture of all of those things came together to make an imperfect storm for dating and meeting women. Wait until you deal with the personality of a Toronto or San Francisco girl, truly the lowest of western women.
For a while, I didn't really care for this, I am from NYC anyways. Yet, due to the aggressive tech expansion and the fact that NYC garnered a reputation for having favorable ratios, things went downhill every year. More and more thirsty dudes, primarily from horrible dating cultures like San Francisco and Toronto flooded the city. Chill rooftops and cool places like say Le Bain and PhD now became places where you would see guys trying to actually do PUA ****.
Now for a while, the biggest nuisance you'd run into in NYC bars were rude guidos but even those guys were relatively chill. Some might get rowdy but if you left them alone, they were there to party with the boys. That changed to actual creepy and poorly coordinated guys flooding bars, you can even tell girls were creeped out. Now that was not the problem here, the problem came over the years.
Quality of women goes down, especially lately as the modeling industry dies a slowly painful death.
Victoria Secrets shows cancelled thanks to body shaming but also, it wasn't just the desperate dudes from Toronto and San Fran from flooded NYC, not at all. The very women who craved narcissism, wanted to be social media cool, and live the YOLO lifestyle from those very cities flooded NYC as well when they heard the Williamsburg cool kid trend and the city lost its rough tough reputation. Typical spoiled Bay Area, Vancouver, or Toronto girl floods NYC now for the popularity purpose instead of pursuing a modeling career as her kind usually lack model-tier looks. Bars and nightclubs slowly became full of tighter social circles instead of places people went to just meet each other.
Ratios even out, thirsty guys and SIMPs become the norm as local, east coast, and European women become more rare.
Unfortunately, the dorks from Silicon Valley do make money even though they don't have much else going for them. For more of a dating culture with actual women in it, these dudes turn to SIMPing and given that they don't work Banker hours, they have some time to spend. Unfortunately, the nightlife turns into a freakshow, a true Silicon Valley Freakshow, sometimes to where it is unrecognizable. Any mainstream NYC bar popular on lists? Expect to now see PUAs, a flood of San Francisco and Toronto people, butch lesbians, and worst of all, women from Toronto and San Francisco.
A cultural shift and the future.
NYC was long a haven for single male bachelorhood where blunt culture and straightforward attitudes ruled. Unfortunately, the city has slowly fallen victim to tech expansion and a social justice culture. What were once nightclubs full of women from Europe, the southern states, midwestern states, and also the good ole east coast have now turned into an influx of Canadians and Californians. A once great city for dating is now mediocre at best.
Even many months before all this, I was noticing something over the years that you only notice if you go out almost every weekend into the city. At first, I didn't think much of it but overtime when reflecting, it was troubling.
A while ago, Amazon tried to expand into NYC but the city denied Amazon that right. I was very thankful but for cultural reasons. I have always said and strongly believed that San Francisco and Toronto are without question the worst big cities in North America for dating and meeting women, if not the absolute worst at least top five. After staying in both cities, I noticed that it was not just a potential ratio issue that made them horrible, it was the actual women who live in those cities. The personality, vibe, culture, attitudes, and a mixture of all of those things came together to make an imperfect storm for dating and meeting women. Wait until you deal with the personality of a Toronto or San Francisco girl, truly the lowest of western women.
For a while, I didn't really care for this, I am from NYC anyways. Yet, due to the aggressive tech expansion and the fact that NYC garnered a reputation for having favorable ratios, things went downhill every year. More and more thirsty dudes, primarily from horrible dating cultures like San Francisco and Toronto flooded the city. Chill rooftops and cool places like say Le Bain and PhD now became places where you would see guys trying to actually do PUA ****.
Now for a while, the biggest nuisance you'd run into in NYC bars were rude guidos but even those guys were relatively chill. Some might get rowdy but if you left them alone, they were there to party with the boys. That changed to actual creepy and poorly coordinated guys flooding bars, you can even tell girls were creeped out. Now that was not the problem here, the problem came over the years.
Quality of women goes down, especially lately as the modeling industry dies a slowly painful death.
Victoria Secrets shows cancelled thanks to body shaming but also, it wasn't just the desperate dudes from Toronto and San Fran from flooded NYC, not at all. The very women who craved narcissism, wanted to be social media cool, and live the YOLO lifestyle from those very cities flooded NYC as well when they heard the Williamsburg cool kid trend and the city lost its rough tough reputation. Typical spoiled Bay Area, Vancouver, or Toronto girl floods NYC now for the popularity purpose instead of pursuing a modeling career as her kind usually lack model-tier looks. Bars and nightclubs slowly became full of tighter social circles instead of places people went to just meet each other.
Ratios even out, thirsty guys and SIMPs become the norm as local, east coast, and European women become more rare.
Unfortunately, the dorks from Silicon Valley do make money even though they don't have much else going for them. For more of a dating culture with actual women in it, these dudes turn to SIMPing and given that they don't work Banker hours, they have some time to spend. Unfortunately, the nightlife turns into a freakshow, a true Silicon Valley Freakshow, sometimes to where it is unrecognizable. Any mainstream NYC bar popular on lists? Expect to now see PUAs, a flood of San Francisco and Toronto people, butch lesbians, and worst of all, women from Toronto and San Francisco.
A cultural shift and the future.
NYC was long a haven for single male bachelorhood where blunt culture and straightforward attitudes ruled. Unfortunately, the city has slowly fallen victim to tech expansion and a social justice culture. What were once nightclubs full of women from Europe, the southern states, midwestern states, and also the good ole east coast have now turned into an influx of Canadians and Californians. A once great city for dating is now mediocre at best.
