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I won't discount people's work, and what is accomplished but many builders, BUT, most guys of note size used at least (1) cycle of 'roids to get to the point they're at, not the least of the guys on those boards or even bodybuilding.com.
At bodybuilding.com, I came up along side a guy named big red. Kid was puny, but worked hard, ate tight, lifted alot. He got in the game of writing articles and gaining noteriety. Just months back, maybe inside a year, he was busted for possession of narcotics, $30k, and other drugs (pain pills and some E). Seems all his articles were worthless to an extent, because his credibility was built on his body; teen builders, which was his predominant audience, saw him as an icon. Then he fell. Being busted while claiming natural bodybuilding is the worst. It isn't the worst as it relates to you own body; if you want to do it, do it.
But don't claim purity, and sell programs like that, if you're not. Most guys do. They say "see, do this, get big, get ripped, get shredded, and you're done." Thing is, most of them did a cycle or 2 of hardcore building, ate tons, and then shredded. Guys buying these programs don't know this. That's my problem.
How can anyone who spends any amount of time in a gym and sees the size and the looks, lose the allure of not wanting to use them? I can't say I know enough to jump on the bandwagon one way or the other, but I have done enough searches through boards to see guys who claim size are cycling too, which does make a difference.
A-Unit
I won't discount people's work, and what is accomplished but many builders, BUT, most guys of note size used at least (1) cycle of 'roids to get to the point they're at, not the least of the guys on those boards or even bodybuilding.com.
At bodybuilding.com, I came up along side a guy named big red. Kid was puny, but worked hard, ate tight, lifted alot. He got in the game of writing articles and gaining noteriety. Just months back, maybe inside a year, he was busted for possession of narcotics, $30k, and other drugs (pain pills and some E). Seems all his articles were worthless to an extent, because his credibility was built on his body; teen builders, which was his predominant audience, saw him as an icon. Then he fell. Being busted while claiming natural bodybuilding is the worst. It isn't the worst as it relates to you own body; if you want to do it, do it.
But don't claim purity, and sell programs like that, if you're not. Most guys do. They say "see, do this, get big, get ripped, get shredded, and you're done." Thing is, most of them did a cycle or 2 of hardcore building, ate tons, and then shredded. Guys buying these programs don't know this. That's my problem.
How can anyone who spends any amount of time in a gym and sees the size and the looks, lose the allure of not wanting to use them? I can't say I know enough to jump on the bandwagon one way or the other, but I have done enough searches through boards to see guys who claim size are cycling too, which does make a difference.
A-Unit