How much freedom you give to your lady

[jhonny9546]

in my opinion

I can say that I know some married women who are not "party girls," but are actually good mothers and housewives. However, you can see that they stay in those marriages while always looking for other men. How can you spot this behavior?

1. They usually gossip about "handsome men" with their female friends longer than they should (like subscribing to the same gym as these "handsome men").
2. They often "intentionally" create social media traps, posting stories, etc., in search of male validation (specifically wanting validation from those "handsome men").
3. They are always looking for and tend to fall for "handsome" guys when they are out.
4. They constantly think about sex (the kind of women who watch porn or read erotica regularly).

This is not meant to judge but to recognize these patterns. As I mentioned above, these women are good housewives with children and jobs, but they can easily fall for and have sex with one of those suave, charming men.

 

[jhonny9546]

To add to this, I have met several women throughout my life, and I can say that some of them are attracted to me and are simply waiting for "the right versione of me". In fact, for some reason, they seem skeptical about me because I may lack certain qualities that are more attractive to those particular women. I've noticed this since I changed my physique; some of them have shown obvious interest, while others have not.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Most guys here are players spinning plates and having copious amounts of sex with tons of bimbos.

 

[Bokanovsky]

The more rules you make,the less time the relationship will last I think,as the partner following the "rules" gets hacked off with the loss of freedom/choice,and rebels

I used to think that way too. I'm not so sure anymore. One could make a convincing argument that many of the social ills that plague contemporary society are directly attributable to modern men's unwillingness/inability to set and enforce rules of conduct for women (in sharp contrast to their forefathers).

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

Women of all social classes respond better to violence than kindness.
When in doubt, be more violent (within the confines of the law, naturally).

Women often act out , start talking to other men or are b!tchy because they want you to punish them and with that comes you positioning ownership of the relationship.

None of my former girlfriends had guy friends and the ship sailed smooth without hitting the rocks. Not even other dudes would like their picture on social media because they kept an air tight private profile with family and some female friends only.

If you don't have a natural knack of rugged meanness, you must develop one to take your game to another level.

 

[Giovanni SouthSide]

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Noticed this to the fullest with a recent chick I’m messing with. Fvck and dominate her and she's sweet and docile for a day. Then she starts acting out and being a little b!tch. Fvck her that night and she's back to being a princess. Go a week without fvcking her and she's insufferable. Fvck the life out of her and she's a sweetheart again and even cooks for me while I slap her buttcheeks black and blue.

As the fvcking gets harder and demonic, it's crystal clear to see how it eventually leads to dungeons and whips and collars and large cucumbers and chains and sh!t.

 

[jhonny9546]

Women often act out , start talking to other men or are b!tchy because they want you to punish them and with that comes you positioning ownership of the relationship.

You fail the "**** test" when you react to her behavior. A mature man knows not to engage with her provocations.

Imagine you're in a 5 year LTR with a woman. If she goes to a Pilates class while you're at work and returns home an hour late for the third time, you might ask, "Is Pilates just an excuse to see someone else while I'm at work?" How do you think she will perceive you? As someone establishing boundaries?

This approach can lead you into a controlling mindset, which is counterproductive. You want her to understand that crossing your boundaries could jeopardize the relationship, but in reality, this is challenging. We are all human, and boundary violations will occur.

Many "stable" LTR fall into a cycle where men feel compelled to reprimand their partners for crossing boundaries. Over time, this can lead to a reactive man. Interestingly, some women seem to thrive on this dynamic; they may feel more secure when their partner reacts strongly.
Is this healthy? No, it isn't. However, very few women have had ideal relationships with their fathers, which can influence their expectations in adult relationships. Some women may cross boundaries frequently, while others may do so only occasionally.

These boundary violations can be subtle. If you respond in a way that differs from what she experienced with her father, it could lead to separation, either now or later. She doesn't see you as "congruent" to her beliefs.
The key is to develop an understanding of how to recognize and predict how the woman you're dating wants you to react to her "**** tests," such as this boundary crossing, especially when you still don't know her relationship with her father.
This is really a key point.
I would ask how do you know this!

There are many good LTR out there of women who stays with a calm and gentle man, and don't do this ****.

If you don't have a natural knack of rugged meanness, you must develop one to take your game to another level.

If you're a good (not nice) guy, with good heart, this will hurt you. You need to practice the right versin of this "rugged meanness", which is not the aggressive thing we see many often
It's so rare to find someone with this right quality which you can emulate

Noticed this to the fullest with a recent chick I’m messing with. Fvck and dominate her and she's sweet and docile for a day. Then she starts acting out and being a little b!tch. Fvck her that night and she's back to being a princess. Go a week without fvcking her and she's insufferable. Fvck the life out of her and she's a sweetheart again and even cooks for me while I slap her buttcheeks black and blue.

As the fvcking gets harder and demonic, it's crystal clear to see how it eventually leads to dungeons and whips and collars and large cucumbers and chains and sh!t.

Yes! But have you ever considered this behaviour could be related to damaged woman, and not healthy ones?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

As the fvcking gets harder and demonic, it's crystal clear to see how it eventually leads to dungeons and whips and collars and large cucumbers and chains and sh!t.

And your house doesn't have a dungeon?

 

[New_Journey]

in my opinion the two main options are:

1. don’t date the kind of woman who makes you worry about these things. (Don’t date slvtty party girls who will make a habit of those things so you can be lenient once in a while if she wants to do them)

2. don’t get into the kind of relationship where you have to worry about these things. (If you’re going to date a slvtty party girl. Obviously don’t marry her and put your house in her name and half your business ownership)

The same slvtty party girl in their 20s, is the same wholesome girl in their 30s when she's looking to settle down with a nice man.

Sorry to break the bubble for you, but if she's not a virgin by 30 (why would she), she was a party girl in their 20s. No matter what ahe says, no matter what she does, you better live and accept with the fact that your girl in their 20s was a slvt, therefore make her your slvt in the bedroom.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Women already know what they shouldn't do and what they should do.

Typically their behavior in these areas is directly correlated with their respect level for you.

The more you find yourself having to say regarding this, the lower their respect level is for you and the more likely they are doing it intentionally to fvck with you like a spoiled brat throws a temper tantrum from not getting their way.

This is all true.

The only thing I would add is, sometimes they do it because the man acts like a spoiled brat who doesn’t get his way. Insecurity is like girl repellent (think bug repellent). Sometimes the man has created issues of his own that may take some time to work out of, and if handled in a new way can be opportunities of growth for the man into secure behavior.

A different, more secure way to handle something may be the following;

Lady friend confirms plans for afternoon when walking out door in morning, ensuring she has ride home with her man in evening. On way in, states that an office holiday happy hour is taking place, created the evening before on email by manager. Once initial frustration passes, man asks why the information was not shared prior to leaving. Lady friend offers her version of her feelings and head trash as to why she didn’t mention it until on the train together.

From a place of patience and maturity, man tells Lady Friend to have a good time and that he will see her at home (man knows he declined such a happy hour himself, arranged his calendar to be with her, including shortening his workout that he holds in high regard, and instead lets it go as he has learned that working from anger is always counterproductive).

She balks, and states that man is taking away something as retaliation.

Man, maturely, warmly and securely says goodbye and knows in his mind and in his body that he is acting out of wisdom and maturity, and pivots to use his free time by going to spend time working on himself. Perhaps the man reads or listens to some philosophy. Maybe he pivots towards a better, more encompassing workout that he can now do at the gym. Perhaps the man invites a friend of his to join him. Maybe he decided to flex his buddy and brings a few cuties from the office into the friends electrical contractor holiday party at the pub across town.

Man ignores texts all day, even conciliatory ones, knowing he handled it properly from the beginning and has nothing else to say. He resigns all attachment to any outcomes or behaviors and from such a place of security, naturally allows himself space to work through any emotional connection blocking his best actions in this situation.

He in doing so, securely and naturally, allows her space to process her own thoughts, and perhaps an opportunity arises later in the evening to address the matter. In person, man expresses how he feels anyway, and then has food for feedback in any regards so that he can work through the matter however he needs.