How many of you dont pay on the First Date?

[WORKEROUTER]

Some guys HAVE to spend money and others DONT. Whatever works for you

No doubt. And believe me I think it is absolutely essential when a guy is transforming from an AFC to a pimp that he FORCES HIMSELF NOT TO PAY at least for a while.

You have to get over the feeling that you HAVE to pay. But what I'm saying is that you reach a point in your game when you KNOW that you're going to take the girl home and fukk her. It's all about reading her and calibrating with her.

At that point it doesn't feel like you're paying because you're trying to fuk her because you actually WANT to. Believe me I have on NUMEROUS occasions simply told the chick that we need to split (well usually I tell the waitress). I have no problem making a chick pay for her half IF I don't feel that "vibe" (that only comes with years of gaming).

Believe me girls WILL think you're a cheapass. If you're taking a HB 9 to a park (which I have dont A LOT BTW especially in college when I was poor as dirt), she WILL know. Some chicks will just overlook it because you're hot, maybe she thinks you're gona be a good fukk, etc, etc. But no doubt many will just think you're a cheapass.

Not worth the 20 bucks. Go out, have a couple drinks, then take her ass to the park and nail her under the stars.

My whole mentality is let's aim to be a pimp. I'm in my mid 20s now so my mentality was different when I was a dirt poor 18 year old riding on my motorcycle all day. Now it's more like, let's go out, make a lot of money, be super fuking successfull, and not worry about whether or not I spent 20 bucks on a girl that I'm having a great time with (and who is likely to bring me residual p*ssy and pay for a lot more stuff down the road).

And guys if you're really worried about counting pennies I PROMISE YOU that chicks WILL PAY down the road. You will get a lot more in return. Not that you should be focusing on that. I've had girls buy me dinners, drinks, plane tickets, etc. etc. But if you act like a cheapass from the start you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[Spinning Spinning]

Some guys HAVE to spend money and others DONT. Whatever works for you

But that's not the impression you initially gave.

I actually like taking a girl out and buying her dinner I don't see it as a freeby for her and I don't see it as paying for a fk. As I said, you ask them out you take them out. I don't know don't get me wrong I'm not rich I'm just your average office earner but I don't see the big deal of spending $50 bucks on a chick to take her out. Maybe because I used to gamble a little I have less value for the dollar. Or maybe I enjoy shouting girls. Either way if you found it was you paying for the meal EVERY time after the initial date and she never offers THEN I would have an issue because nobody likes to be taken advantage of. Until then.....meh.

 

[Black.Magic]

I will pay if the date was good, or if I think I'm in with a chance.

Average date with little hope of a future one, there's no chance I'll pay. That said, even if it's a fantastic date I probably still won't pay because this is the age of Equality of the Sexes.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

I will pay if the date was good, or if I think I'm in with a chance.

Average date with little hope of a future one, there's no chance I'll pay. That said, even if it's a fantastic date I probably still won't pay because this is the age of Equality of the Sexes.

good way to go, especially if you're looking to fukk quickly. It should only take a guy with game a couple weeks (assuming he can go out a few times per week) to get residual hot ***** (ie 3+ plates spinning).

 

[bigneil]

First, I never pay for drinks. That's supplication. But if they are a waitress, etc. I always tip generously.

Second, they have to kiss me before I take them out.

Third, I'm looking to have sex with the women I take out, not to have them supplement my income. The money for the date is a non-factor unless you are in college. If you have no job and she knows that and still has sex with you, great, but that strategy won't last. What's next, you'll have the Government pay for your date? Fact: 55% of you do get Government money.

"A Successful seducer pays for the date." Louis/Copeland.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

I NEVER pay! That's for beta AFC's! Cause I'm Alpha with the HB9's 10's I date. I take off and let them have to wash and spin plates to pay off the meal while I go in full No Contact mode and get the LULZ cause I'm ****y/funny like that!

 

[bigneil]

There you have it folks.

 

[Spinning Spinning]

There you have it folks.

Ahahahaha:crackup:

Edit: Cant believe I wasted one of my 10 posts on this but that was too damn funny. WTF is up with that anyway is there any way of having it lifted?

 

[SgtSplacker]

I'm sure this has to do alot with the kind of social circles you hang out in.

I'll put it like this. Any decent girl that is possibly marriage material should expect for you to pay for a date that was your idea in the first place. Because after all her financial position is not as strong as yours because she should be going to school or paying for student loans, staying home alot, etc, etc. She probably will eat a good meal at home with her family if you don't take her out. So taking her out has to be worth her while. If she has a kid she may even have to pay for a sitter.

Now if you're asking out lil trashy stripper/bartender flip-flop to a club, alcoholic, Oxycontin snorting typa girls, sure you can get away with not paying. Odds are you are not even inviting her to a formal dinner in the first place (wings or just appetizers don't count, sitting at a bar doesn't count). Why does she not care if you pay? because she would prolly be in a bar eating the same trash that night anyways! Of course she doesn't care.

 

[WORKEROUTER]

I'm sure this has to do alot with the kind of social circles you hang out in.

I'll put it like this. Any decent girl that is possibly marriage material should expect for you to pay for a date that was your idea in the first place. Because after all her financial position is not as strong as yours because she should be going to school or paying for student loans, staying home alot, etc, etc. She probably will eat a good meal at home with her family if you don't take her out. So taking her out has to be worth her while. If she has a kid she may even have to pay for a sitter.

Now if you're asking out lil trashy stripper/bartender flip-flop to a club, alcoholic, Oxycontin snorting typa girls, sure you can get away with not paying. Odds are you are not even inviting her to a formal dinner in the first place (wings or just appetizers don't count, sitting at a bar doesn't count). Why does she not care if you pay? because she would prolly be in a bar eating the same trash that night anyways! Of course she doesn't care.

I don't agree with all of this. First, even if a guy isn't seeking a marriage material girl (BTW: a single mom should be considered the furthest women from that), paying for a date is more just about keeping things light and should be done ONLY IF you are genuinely having a good time with her and expect to see her again. If the date is going sour or she is acting like a b*tch, then get her to pay her half or ideally the whole tab.

I haven't taken a girl out to a "formal dinner" (how lame does that sound !) in years for the first date. I feel like a first date SHOULD be something light and fun. The truth is that plenty of hot chicks get their faces stuffed by AFCs (and not stuffed in the good way) who take them out to nice dinners.

A first date should be casual, under 30 bucks, and ideally at a cool, hip bar/pub if you like that kind of scene. Formal dinner dates should be reserved for when you've been dating her for a while and will enjoy yourself when you take her out.

So the point is: keep the first date light, keep the first date cheap, keep it FUN, and pay if it's going well and DON'T if it's not

 

[J Roc]

I'll put it like this. Any decent girl that is possibly marriage material should expect for you to pay for a date that was your idea in the first place.

You guys fail to realize that A date doesnt have to involve spending money. Next weekend there is a FREE Jazz festival all weekend long here in Atlanta. You can invite a classy lady out to the park to enjoy a fun evening of Jazz music and spend $0 if you want. Why spend any money ($5 or $50) on a female until you know you there is a real connection? Once you know there is a connection then its okay to take a woman out to a formal dinner.

How would you know a woman is marriage material when you havent even been out with her yet? SMH

 

[bigneil]

Why spend any money ($5 or $50) on a female until you know you there is a real connection? Once you know there is a connection then its okay to take a woman out to a formal dinner.

That's why I don't ask them out until they kiss me.

I'll say "Do you really want me to take you out? Prove it."

 

[Eternal_water]

A lot of contradicting opinions in this thread. Very unusual for so suave

 

[konmai]

I don't pay for any of my dates unless it's her birthday or something. Yep and I'm doing fine.

 

[bigneil]

I noticed the people who don't pay often don't tell their age either.

Gotta love the 21 year old DJ mentality:

1) Never pay.
2) Hate older men who do.

 

[J Roc]

Listen to this: http://www.leykisonline.com/recordings/2006/01_January/Leykis-2006-01-18_Hr3-MakeHerPayHerOwn.mp3