How many of you are dateless wonders and 25+

Buddha_Mind

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There are tons of examples of people who were the WORST and became the BEST. Don't let yourself get discouraged and don't give up. I've attempted things MANY TIMES until I was successful. Sometimes we have to try DOZENS and DOZENS of solutions until we find success. I know that sounds intimidating, but if you resolved not to be a failure and resolved to take an honest scientific approach, you might find greater success.

We all struggle man, but I see plenty of asian dudes with good-looking women. Maybe you are living in a tough place?

Can I ask you an honest question, not about the muscles but:

Do you like yourself?

Do you like your attitude towards life?

-- I have found at times when I've become bitter and angry, everything goes down the tube, including women.

-- Times I've been outgoing, positive, optimistic and encouraging I get lots of praise and female attention (people want to be around the campfires...not out in the dark cold...there's a reason we like candles..eh?)

Learn to be a candle is a cheesy metaphor, but I think you know what I'm saying here.

If you're fit, it's got to be your attitude and your approach that is failing. Consider yourself lucky, you're steps above some fat guy who has much further to go. You can overcome this. Don't give up, put down the video controller and go out and socialize!
 

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Do you like yourself?

Do you like your attitude towards life?


I was about to make the same point. You have to stop and ask yourself 'Are we having fun yet?' If the answer is no, then it's not going to be fun for someone else to be around you.
 

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I think you need to work on getting out of your own head.

Don't give a shyt and be carefree

Don't try any phoney alpha garbage, you're putting too much pressure on yourself. Just go up to chicks and say hi and start talking. Stay upbeat and have good energy. If the convo goes nowhere or only lasts a minute then just move on

I really think we're not that different, and you're just in your own head too much overthinking things and allowing years of failure to dictate your future. To me, it's completely understandable for you to be where you are mentally right now. And I totally get why it's so hard to get out of that hole and get out of your head, but try to keep reminding yourself of these things

Negativity and pessimism that's going on in your head is destroying your chances before you even open your mouth. It's not you. You're not a failure. You're not a guy incapable of getting chicks.
 

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Be fun, be funny, start more random conversations with strangers, say hello to strangers when you walk by them just to be friendly, meet random people around the gym, get their numbers and hang out with them, open conversations with unattractive and older people (men and women both) just to practice conversation skills. My best friend that's a straight pimp (always pulled and fvcked the girls everyone else wanted, cheerleaders, volleyball players, etc) is 5'7 maybe 185 Filipino, consistently pulled fine broads. He struck out his fair share, but he got both quantity and quality in the long run. Why? He was always fun to be around. Girls and guys both loved hanging with him. He always knew how to make everyone laugh, feel good about and enjoy themselves.

My game is to have fun and be funny. Girls just wanna have fun! That's the most true sh!t ever! If you're fun, girls will find themselves around you. If you're having fun, you will worry less about what the girls think cuz you will be having fun. I typically don't have much fun when I'm trying to get laid. It's too much pressure. When I'm having fun and playing fast and loose, I tend too push things a little farther and I get much less resistance from chicks cuz they're usually having fun too and enjoying the ride. That's how they find themselves getting caught up in the moment.

Try just to have fun and see the difference!

Also, as far as social skills go. Try to start 1 random conversation a day with a stranger. Try to make the stranger laugh, have fun, and feel good about themself. Game will evolve from these social skills. Social skills don't evolve from anything other than practice and just like all other skills, if you don't use it, you loose it!
 

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It's a mindset. And at this point, you've got the mindset that you're a worthless loser. Thus, you're a worthless loser to the women you meet. Get a job, hit the gym, find a hobby that interests you, etc. Improve your life for yourself and the problem with the females will work itself out.
 

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okyoureabeast said:
Pick up some hobbies that women coincidentally do as well. But never sacrifice your own hobbies/respect/happiness just because a women who does these said hobbies becomes interested in you. If you depart from what makes you happy you will be walked on by everyone forever not just women.

Even want to learn how to dance? Suck at cooking? Take a cooking class. Sounds like chick flick logic with the given examples. I don't buy it. YMMV. :box:

When you're there, say hi and immediately friend zone them in your mind. That way you're not coming off like a hound trying to get laid.
So leave the penis at the classroom door? OP is trying to seek guidance to find his again (metaphorically speaking). This comes off as the BS we all have been fed from society when dealing with women, and yet, we find ourselves here dispensing logic that creates the very problems we seek to get away from. I say counter-intuitive at best, and most destructive at worst. Don't think with your penis, HOWEVER, don't be unapologetic about wanting to sex any women you are interested in unless you want to continue to be an androgynous male (reference pet in a dictionary). I am on board with the friend-zone mindset though. It's always nice to have a bunch of women that like you and cook for you, but that you don't have to spend money on or deal with at family reunions. :rockon: Who knows, they may have friends that you can play bedroom gymnastics with and win some Olympic gold with.

To each his own method of dealing with the other sex. Live well and prosper :box:
 

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gspshields2 said:
I'm being honest with myself.

I workout, im muscular over 200 pounds of muscle,
I dress well, but nothing is working for me.

The only thing is theres a major handicap for me and I am Asian.

Also my social skills suck.

But i look good and keep in great shape.
Being Asian is not an excuse. I'm Chinese, 5'8" and 130 lbs, and 27 years old. I'm a skinny Chinese guy that looks 22 years old, and it's not hard for me to get a date. I'm from Los Angeles, so the girls here are fickle.
As everyone say, must be your personality or the way you hold yourself.
 
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