how long should you wait before u call again if u call a HB and she doesn't pick up?

[drift king]

if you number closed a girl and call a few days later to set up a 1st date, if she doesn't pick up when should you call again?

assuming she didn't save your number in the 1st instance and doesn't call you back.

i have a tendency to be cool and calm for the 1st couple days then capitulate when i realise im getting ignored.

 

[TheSplat]

3 days

 

[Gangster Of Love]

After 3 days, if she doesn't call you, start looking into sending her flowers. Yes, pay one of those online sites where they get you the adress and personal info of anybody just from a phone number.

 

[Energizer]

I'd hate to say it guys, but women are all too familar with the 3 day rule and many of them will cut a man off after realising he is game playing. If she didn't answer her phone, just leave her a voicemail and if she gets back to you she gets back to you and if she doesn't then chalk it up as a loss.

 

[bukowski_merit]

i only call women on the phone if it's an emergency (i can't make it last minute or something)....

i do 95% of my communication by text... i pretty much only talk on the phone if they call me... text solves a lot of the problems...

i sometimes text a woman the same night i get her number... doesn't seem to hurt my standing any...

 

[Energizer]

Texting is lame, a quick phone does the trick, it's nice to have some vocal communication instead "hi howz u jst wnted 2 let u knw i wnt sum kinky 4play 2nite, tb marvin xxx".

 

[Vice]

Send her flowers, with the delivery man wearing a gorilla suit.

 

[bukowski_merit]

Texting is lame, a quick phone does the trick, it's nice to have some vocal communication instead "hi howz u jst wnted 2 let u knw i wnt sum kinky 4play 2nite, tb marvin xxx".

no it's lame playing by the same rules as the PUA/DJs did in 1999 (before the great invention of SMS caught on)....
if you call her - it requires significant commitment on her part to answer... she knows by answering it - that's an IOI right there (and thus you gain power by her answering)... how many of these questions on here are about women not answering phone calls, what kind of messages to leave, women being busy and not calling back, etc? i think far too many... this doesn't happen with text...

I also hear of guys leaving dumb voice messages or saying stupid stuff on the phone... if you're smart - this will never happen in text... because there's no requirement to respond to anything right away... let's look at **** test ... if a girl **** test you on the phone - you're going to have to know how to respond right away... if she does it through text - you can take your time and craft a response... you don't have to think too fast; in fact you could log onto a board like this and post what's going on and get some responses fast enough that she wouldn't have any idea...

Lets also look at the fact that a phone call throws the ball in her court... which is not normally a good thing (do you want women to decide anything for you? aka if she wants to answer or not.)...

Women also like to talk on the phone... they're much better at it than men are... they can trap men on the phones for hours (whereas in person, men are much better at getting women to shut up)...

Advantages of text:
- It puts a lot less pressure on you.
- You can think about what you want to say
- It also puts less pressure on her, she can respond when she has the time to and it won't be seen as her giving you a huge IOI.
- Most women will eventually respond to text. This isn't true with phone.
- You can get away with saying a lot more through text. It feels safer for the woman. Believe me. I've gotten away with turning on some women through text before by saying stuff they'd never let anyone get away with saying over the phone. It creates a false safe zone between you, in the same sense instant messenger does. If you can turn a woman on with text - the real thing won't be far away... Remember that women read their porn (romance novels) - men watch them...

 

[snowdog]

That 3-day stuff is BS. After calling her the first time and she didn't pick up, try a couple hours later that day again OR the next day. NEVER call more then twice. The ball is in her park after that, and if she doesn't call back, f*ck her. If you have set your phone to display your caller ID (which you should), she cannot have missed it.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

no it's lame playing by the same rules as the PUA/DJs did in 1999 (before the great invention of SMS caught on)....
if you call her - it requires significant commitment on her part to answer... she knows by answering it - that's an IOI right there

If a girl won't answer your phone calls then she's not worth talking to...... texting is very informal and doesn't mean $hit. However if a woman answers her phone it means you connected with her in the initial PU, she can text you back all day, it doesn't mean she's interested.

(and thus you gain power by her answering)... how many of these questions on here are about women not answering phone calls, what kind of messages to leave, women being busy and not calling back, etc? i think far too many... this doesn't happen with text...

If a guy calls a girl and she doesn't answer or call him back, it doesn't mean he should call again. It means he didn't get her interested ENOUGH for her to want to get to know him any further.


I also hear of guys leaving dumb voice messages or saying stupid stuff on the phone... if you're smart - this will never happen in text... because there's no requirement to respond to anything right away... let's look at **** test ... if a girl **** test you on the phone - you're going to have to know how to respond right away...

If you don't know how to throw $hit back at a girl when she tests you your not going to get very far with any girl, fix that issue rather than avoiding calling her. I'll hit this point again, an interested woman will answer or call back.


if she does it through text - you can take your time and craft a response... you don't have to think too fast; in fact you could log onto a board like this and post what's going on and get some responses fast enough that she wouldn't have any idea...

So what are you going to do when your on a date with a girl and she $hit tests you? Are you going to log on to sosuave.com on your phone and ask the guys how to respond???

Lets also look at the fact that a phone call throws the ball in her court... which is not normally a good thing (do you want women to decide anything for you? aka if she wants to answer or not.)...

A woman decides the first night she meets you whether she's interested in you on some level. Phone calls also save you the time and energy that some guys spend on girls that aren't interested in them. If you call a girl and she doesn't answer or PU, then you call again say a week later and you get the same result, you pick up your $hit and move on.

However you can start texting a girl and talk to her several times, then go hang out with her, only to find out you were in the friend zone the whole time, but since she text you back, you thought she liked you..

Women also like to talk on the phone... they're much better at it than men are... they can trap men on the phones for hours (whereas in person, men are much better at getting women to shut up)...

Again, address the real problem here then. Work on your phone game!!!


Advantages of text:
- It puts a lot less pressure on you.

Disadvantage: Its less engaging, you can't seduce her with the tone of your voice, how you say your words is completely taken out of the equation.

- You can think about what you want to say

Disadvantage: If you aren't even a little witty, she's not going to like you in the long run, you need to learn to think on your toes.

- It also puts less pressure on her, she can respond when she has the time to and it won't be seen as her giving you a huge IOI.

Disadvantage: It leads you to believe a girl's interested in you but because text is so informal its NOT a huge IOI.

- Most women will eventually respond to text. This isn't true with phone.

Disadvantage: See above

- You can get away with saying a lot more through text. It feels safer for the woman. Believe me. I've gotten away with turning on some women through text before by saying stuff they'd never let anyone get away with saying over the phone. It creates a false safe zone between you, in the same sense instant messenger does. If you can turn a woman on with text - the real thing won't be far away... Remember that women read their porn (romance novels) - men watch them...

LOL... the flip side of the coin is since a woman can't hear your tone of voice, she can easily be offended through text compared to over the phone. Tonality is one of the most important aspects of seduction, text puts a vice-grip on this power.

Bottom line, text is very informal and gives a guy a false sense of interest from the woman. I've never talked to one girl who was interested in me who wouldn't answer my phone calls. If she won't answer your phone calls, she's not interested. If you enjoy spending time talking to girls who have low to zero interest, then text away....

PIMP

 

[Ollie]

Pretty sure his point was he got her number, has never called her before that call, and so she doesn't know it was him that called, not that she had his number and decided not to answer. She could have been in the shower or at work or busy doing whatever and couldn't answer it, and most girls won't call back a number they don't recognize. I'd wait till the next day personally and possibly leave a message if she doesn't answer again so she can put your face to the number and she'll call back if interested.

 

[sodbuster]

I've called a woman who ignored me/wouldn't answer-whatever. Since I knew it would happen again, I got myself into an out of control frame of happy.When she didn't pick up,I left the following message"hey this is &&&& call you later-IF you are LUCKy. The next time I called, she answered

 

[bukowski_merit]

genius... there's no credence to what you're saying that goes with what i've learned by doing it that way... what worked for you is fine... what i'm saying is for "my personal" game - it works fine (I have 2 MLTRs and on average get 3 "other" girls a month into my bed)... Only time i ever talk on the phone is if a girl calls me... how is this possible? shouldn't i be getting turned down because they view my texting as weak? or could it possibly be because i know what the fvck i'm doing sir?

and when i was listing advantages - i was mixing in advantages for a variety of skill level... i have never asked someone "what should i say in this situation?" but i see it on here all the time, hence, why i listed it as an advantage (so i'm not addressing anything you said about improving who i am because it doesn't pertain to me).

i really need to cook my egg whites for tomorrow morning, so i don't have a lot of time to break down what you said... but heres some:

If a girl won't answer your phone calls then she's not worth talking to......

IT could mean a number of things if she doesn't answer your call... no matter what her IL is - there's many reasons she won't answer a phone call...

texting is very informal and doesn't mean $hit.

Your game is outdated and you're following the same rules as the DJs from 1986. Texting in 2009 IS formal.

However if a woman answers her phone it means you connected with her in the initial PU

No it means you've managed to catch her at a time where none of the possible variables are coming into play that would cause her to not be able to answer...

she can text you back all day, it doesn't mean she's interested.

IT also doesn't mean she's not interested either. In fact, i would say - i've turned at least 3 girls who had very low interest and would not have answered their phones in a million years into lays; just by keeping them laughing for a whole day.

If a guy calls a girl and she doesn't answer or call him back, it doesn't mean he should call again. It means he didn't get her interested ENOUGH for her to want to get to know him any further.

you're going to lose a lot of girls who have legit reasons for no answering or calling back doing this. so if you want to lose women who could actually have interest - follow this guys generic advice...

an interested woman will answer or call back.

this is true sometimes... it's also very possible that she has a legit reason for not answering or calling back...

A woman decides the first night she meets you whether she's interested in you on some level.

And there's not many women left who will give their number to a guy she isn't the least bit interested in...

Phone calls also save you the time and energy that some guys spend on girls that aren't interested in them.

I will concede to this point (that talking on the phone saves time). However, i put in very little effort texting girls and mainly do it from work; time i would be spending sitting around staring at a computer anyway.... I typically have 4-5 conversations going on with different women through text and 2-3 going on through email... my 2 MLTRs live within the reality of my words... i mindfvck them with my texts and emails daily and keep the entranced and horny... i will say that i'm an accomplished poet (& ex-rapper) and i also write erotic and short stories (mostly romance) for various websites - so my wit with words/gift of gab is top notch... but i don't believe what i do is that hard... just make them smile and turn them on...

However you can start texting a girl and talk to her several times, then go hang out with her, only to find out you were in the friend zone the whole time, but since she text you back, you thought she liked you..

Why do i get the impression you don't know this from experience? You better believe any woman i go out with has shown a lot of interest (through text or in the initial meeting)... friend zone? my last friend zone story is 5 years old... by the time a woman has been texting me for a week they feel like they've been on dates with me already (i've been told this), by the time the 1st date actually does come around - she's already very ready to give herself to me... barriers have already been broken down...

you can't seduce her with the tone of your voice, how you say your words is completely taken out of the equation.

this is true... but how many guys seduce a girl with the tone of their voice when 90% of the guys on this site say to only use the phone to set up dates? (and there's normally some dumb rule that goes with this that says "keep it under 5 minutes and act like you're busy and got to go somewhere.") nothing seductive about that... lets say you are going to ignore that rule and seduce her by phone using your voice.... ok? now, tell me what happens if you're doing this and she's not really be receptive of this? you're going to assume she's not interested right? (this is called variable ignoring). what if the reason is as simple as her friend is over and she doesn't wanna seem like a s!ut? ... Text her... and she can be out at a ****tail dinner with every friend she's ever known - and you don't have to worry about that...

It leads you to believe a girl's interested in you but because text is so informal its NOT a huge IOI.

True, her texting you is not a HUGE IOI. But things she says in text can be...

LOL... the flip side of the coin is since a woman can't hear your tone of voice, she can easily be offended through text compared to over the phone.

offended? yeah if you got from 10mph to 300 mph in 10 minutes - she might get offended... but if you go from 10 to 300 over a course of 5 days and work her into it slowly - she won't at all get offended... quite the opposite... her infatuation will increase dramatically over this period...

Tonality is one of the most important aspects of seduction, text puts a vice-grip on this power.

I don't disagree that! Delivery, tonality and the "non-words" are far more important in the BIG PICTURE! IF i didn't have those things to back up what i say through text - i would be ineffective. surely i agree with that.

text is very informal and gives a guy a false sense of interest from the woman.

IF the guy takes her texting alone as an IOI - then yes it absolutely is a false sense of interest. He MUST put value in what's she's saying, how she's responding to what he's saying, how long she's taking, how long her answers are, and other text variable... If he hits her up and says a few jokes and gets her to laugh a lil; takes that as an IOI, and then he asks her on a date - then he's a fvcking fool!

If she won't answer your phone calls, she's not interested.

not at all always true...

just like not responding to everything because i need to cook my eggs =)

 

[ready123]

the guys who need to rely on these gay ass rules got major work to do

here's what happens:
1. guy thinks he got the "correct" number of days and calls, she picks up, because he thinks he got the "correct" number of days, he feels more pimp and the girl's more responsive
2. guy doesn't know when to call back, is 2 days too short? OH NO HE MIGHT BLOW IT BECAUSE HE DOESN'T KNOW THE RULE! OH GAWD, ALL THE GIRLS KNOW THE 3 DAY RULE NOW!!! calls up girl all insecure, feels all insecure, girl blows him out

stop relying on gay ass rules to give you a reason to feel pimp. it's whether or not you feel pimp that matters. these rules don't do sht

 

[Smartone84]

I'd hate to say it guys, but women are all too familar with the 3 day rule and many of them will cut a man off after realising he is game playing. If she didn't answer her phone, just leave her a voicemail and if she gets back to you she gets back to you and if she doesn't then chalk it up as a loss.

agreed

MAYBE you can send a text about a week later to see if shes around, not but 3 days IMO

 

[azrael]

i thought the OP was asking when to call again after you call for the 1st time and she did not answer

I say the next day . and if she did not have his number is very unlikely that she is gonna call back and unknown number

and i hate texting if leaves too many questions in your mind..
..did she get it?
..will she answer?
fvck it.. call her and see what happens

 

[Pimp-sicle]

genius... there's no credence to what you're saying that goes with what i've learned by doing it that way... what worked for you is fine... what i'm saying is for "my personal" game - it works fine (I have 2 MLTRs and on average get 3 "other" girls a month into my bed)...

If you think the reason you've had 2 MLTR's and 3 "other" girls in your bed each month is text that's pretty hilarious. These women will talk to you on the phone if you call them because they have high interest. Text might get you an immediate response, but I stand by my point that its more informal, which is why it isn't a big deal for a girl (interested or not) to respond to you.

Only time i ever talk on the phone is if a girl calls me... how is this possible? shouldn't i be getting turned down because they view my texting as weak? or could it possibly be because i know what the fvck i'm doing sir?

These women aren't turning you down because they already have high interest, which means you caught their interest enough on the initial PU. Once you've talked to a girl on the phone the game changes.


and when i was listing advantages - i was mixing in advantages for a variety of skill level... i have never asked someone "what should i say in this situation?" but i see it on here all the time, hence, why i listed it as an advantage (so i'm not addressing anything you said about improving who i am because it doesn't pertain to me).

Did you catch my point about that the first time around? How would a rookie improve his skills (wit specifically) if he's depending on someone else to craft a clever response to a text for him half the time?

i really need to cook my egg whites for tomorrow morning, so i don't have a lot of time to break down what you said... but heres some:

Your wit is weak.....maybe you should've ate your egg whites before you replied...


IT could mean a number of things if she doesn't answer your call... no matter what her IL is - there's many reasons she won't answer a phone call...

If she doesn't answer your phone calls, you don't have enough value to her BOTTOM LINE... Rather than deal with a woman who has medium to low interest, then work to elevate it, I'd rather spend my time talking to a woman who has high interest from the get go. A woman with high interest will always answer or call you back within a reasonable time.

Your game is outdated and you're following the same rules as the DJs from 1986. Texting in 2009 IS formal.

LOL!!! Definitely phone calls are soooo 1986!!! hahaha I never said I don't text, my whole point is if I woman will not answer your phone call after the initial PU, she's not someone I'd be interested in no matter what. Even if I text her initially rather than call her and she responds, but doesn't answer my phone calls, she's retarded.

No it means you've managed to catch her at a time where none of the possible variables are coming into play that would cause her to not be able to answer...

Yeah, because girls who have zero interest in a guy they recently met will always answer their phone to speak to him.... Maybe you should cook whole eggs instead of the whites, the lack of healthy fats is affecting your thinking...

IT also doesn't mean she's not interested either. In fact, i would say - i've turned at least 3 girls who had very low interest and would not have answered their phones in a million years into lays; just by keeping them laughing for a whole day.

And how much time have you wasted over text on a girl with low interest that you didn't get?? Hmmmmmm....something to think about. 3 girls out of how many??? I give a girl two phone calls, if she doesn't answer or call back I drop her and move on to a girl with high interest.


you're going to lose a lot of girls who have legit reasons for no answering or calling back doing this. so if you want to lose women who could actually have interest - follow this guys generic advice...


I'm not losing anything, unless you consider a girl with low interest something to lose. A girl with high interest in me who'll answer my phone call or a girl who I have to text with to elevate interest to a respectable level after some time?? Tough choice... Why waste time doing that, when you can be lining up new girls who want you right off the bat??


this is true sometimes... it's also very possible that she has a legit reason for not answering or calling back...

A girl who won't answer or call you back does not have a strong interest in you. If she has a legit reason and still doesn't call back why would I care anyways??? Every single girl I've ever hooked up with always answered their phone..

And there's not many women left who will give their number to a guy she isn't the least bit interested in...

Women give their number out allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time to guys they have no intention of ever talking to again..... I bet there's a thread on the 1st two pages about a girl who won't call a guy back from a PU right now.....

I will concede to this point (that talking on the phone saves time). However, i put in very little effort texting girls and mainly do it from work; time i would be spending sitting around staring at a computer anyway.... I typically have 4-5 conversations going on with different women through text and 2-3 going on through email... my 2 MLTRs live within the reality of my words... i mindfvck them with my texts and emails daily and keep the entranced and horny... i will say that i'm an accomplished poet (& ex-rapper) and i also write erotic and short stories (mostly romance) for various websites - so my wit with words/gift of gab is top notch... but i don't believe what i do is that hard... just make them smile and turn them on...

Your text don't mind fuvk them, their emotions for you have them in your reality. If you said the same things to them in person or over the phone as you do through text it would be 100% more powerful and effective...

 

[Pimp-sicle]

Why do i get the impression you don't know this from experience?

Because you can't think of anything better to say right here.


You better believe any woman i go out with has shown a lot of interest (through text or in the initial meeting)... friend zone? my last friend zone story is 5 years old...

Do you understand that this has very little to do with the text you send them? It has everything to do with your personality that attracted them. Do me a favor, the next chick you PU and do a good job on, call her instead of textin her for the first contact. I bet you she'll call you back if she doesn't answer..

by the time a woman has been texting me for a week they feel like they've been on dates with me already (i've been told this), by the time the 1st date actually does come around - she's already very ready to give herself to me... barriers have already been broken down...

You can do the same thing over the phone, better in my opinion.


this is true... but how many guys seduce a girl with the tone of their voice when 90% of the guys on this site say to only use the phone to set up dates?

Were not talking about other guys...remember?? Were talking about your own personal game (you brought this point up)


(and there's normally some dumb rule that goes with this that says "keep it under 5 minutes and act like you're busy and got to go somewhere.") nothing seductive about that... lets say you are going to ignore that rule and seduce her by phone using your voice.... ok? now, tell me what happens if you're doing this and she's not really be receptive of this?

I don't have any retarded rules like that. If she's not receptive you did something wrong...

you're going to assume she's not interested right? (this is called variable ignoring). what if the reason is as simple as her friend is over and she doesn't wanna seem like a s!ut?

Fluff talk dude! I never call a girl without having a little bit of small talk first. What did you think? You call a girl she says Hello and you immediately say "Your skin is buttery smooth baby, what are you wearing???!!" LMAO!!

... Text her... and she can be out at a ****tail dinner with every friend she's ever known - and you don't have to worry about that...

See above...


True, her texting you is not a HUGE IOI. But things she says in text can be...

Answering phone calls = high interest Textin back = no telling where the interest level is

offended? yeah if you got from 10mph to 300 mph in 10 minutes - she might get offended...

When someone's talking you can generally tell when they're being sarcastic based on what??........the tone of their voice. If you say something sarcastic over text....it could be the end of that conversation if the girl takes it the wrong way because she didn't know you were joking....ESPECIALLY a girl you just met who doesn't know you well enough yet....

but if you go from 10 to 300 over a course of 5 days and work her into it slowly - she won't at all get offended... quite the opposite... her infatuation will increase dramatically over this period....

same could be said for any form of communication here...this is a mute point.

I don't disagree that! Delivery, tonality and the "non-words" are far more important in the BIG PICTURE! IF i didn't have those things to back up what i say through text - i would be ineffective. surely i agree with that.

Exactly!

IF the guy takes her texting alone as an IOI - then yes it absolutely is a false sense of interest. He MUST put value in what's she's saying, how she's responding to what he's saying, how long she's taking, how long her answers are, and other text variable...

If he hits her up and says a few jokes and gets her to laugh a lil; takes that as an IOI, and then he asks her on a date - then he's a fvcking fool!

So let me get this straight.... If I call a girl that I # closed, she answers, I get her laughing and I see that as an IOI and ask her out on a date then I'm a fuvkin' fool??? LOL You should probablly tell that to all the girls I've successfully done that too over the years...

not at all always true...

she's not interested ENOUGH..

just like not responding to everything because i need to cook my eggs =)

Your eggs are spoiled.......[/QUOTE]



I never said I don't text, I text all day, everyday! However, when I # close a girl, I'll call her. If she won't call me back then I move on. Once I've talked to a girl on the phone, I'll text her here and there, but the only point here is if a woman/girl/slvt/prude won't answer or call you back she has loooooowwwww interest. If you enjoy chasing after table scraps searching for the roast, be my guest. All the examples you provided above are from woman who have/had high interest in you. It didn't matter what method you used to contact them, they would have responded...




PIMP

 

[bukowski_merit]

I will say that if we're purely talking about figuring out if a girl has HIGH interest in you QUICKLY - your way is fine and i don't disagree that it is faster than text in that respect.

My main point in this is that text is not seen as weak or lame by the modern woman (which you in your final statement do not seem to disagree with).

With that said, you and me can keep doing this all day; but instead of commenting on each line you wrote - i'm simply going to address any new points you made. Any rehashed point that i don't address - you can assume that my opinion hasn't changed on it.

Did you catch my point about that the first time around? How would a rookie improve his skills (wit specifically) if he's depending on someone else to craft a clever response to a text for him half the time?

It'll still improve if he's depending on someone else. In fact, it could improve faster. If he's relying on himself - he's probably going to make a lot more mistakes. By asking someone more "gamed" what he should say - he can "hopefully" begin to understand better. That is, if he doesn't view this as a crutch that he can ALWAYS lean on. As long as he's taking it upon himself to understand why people are advising him to say a certain thing and actually learning from asking - then i don't think there's anything wrong with that... Now the sad reality is that most men on here don't really want to learn (or are really bad at learning), and they just want their hand held and to be TOLD what to do everytime something pops up...

Rather than deal with a woman who has medium to low interest, then work to elevate it, I'd rather spend my time talking to a woman who has high interest from the get go.

And you judge this based solely on if she answers your initial phone call? I can normally tell by the end of the 1st interaction what a woman's interest level is (and understand that it can change once she gets home and clears out her head). I also don’t have a problem gaming low and medium interest women; mainly because I won’t make a move beyond texting unless they give some indication that they’re moving up towards a higher interest level.

LOL!!! Definitely phone calls are soooo 1986!!!

My point is not that calls are soooo 1986… my point is that the rule that “you shouldn’t text, you should call” is an outdated rule. Especially when we’re talking in the context of it being perceived as corny or weak by a woman. It’s an accepted form of communication to the modern person. I now understand that your personal argument is not that we shouldn’t use text, but that we should use a phone call to gauge her interest level.

And how much time have you wasted over text on a girl with low interest that you didn't get??

As I stated – I don’t consider texting wasting time… If I text some girl 10-20 times over a 2-3 day period and realize that it’s not going anywhere… I wasted what? 10 minutes? And since that time is normally work time – It isn’t even 10 minutes of my personal time.

Women give their number out allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the time to guys they have no intention of ever talking to again..... I bet there's a thread on the 1st two pages about a girl who won't call a guy back from a PU right now.....

When a woman gives her number out – she normally is not doing it because she plans to not answer. It’s normal for her to get home and by the time the guy calls 3-4 days later – be unsure if she really liked the guy. I believe when a woman gives a guy her number she has to have SOME interest… I see those threads all the time too – and I think if a guy just sent her a simple text message, he’d find out… a woman is comfortable with telling a guy she’s not interested through text… from my experience – women tell more truth with their words through text (and tell less truth with their words when they are actually using their voice).

Fluff talk dude! I never call a girl without having a little bit of small talk first. What did you think? You call a girl she says Hello and you immediately say "Your skin is buttery smooth baby, what are you wearing???!!" LMAO!!

That wasn’t my point. My point was that if her friend is over – she’s not going to be receptive to what you’re saying if it’s sexual. That is unless her friend and her are hors!

When someone's talking you can generally tell when they're being sarcastic based on what??........the tone of their voice. If you say something sarcastic over text....it could be the end of that conversation if the girl takes it the wrong way because she didn't know you were joking....ESPECIALLY a girl you just met who doesn't know you well enough yet....

Which is why I say take it from 10-300mph over a long period. Get her used to how you are and to understand when you’re joking or not… And there are points where things will get misunderstood – this happens in person and on the phone as well… But there’s ways to handle being misunderstood… but as a rule – I don’t get too heavy into anything until I’ve established a certain pattern of communication with the woman. This keeps the misunderstanding to a minimum, and it makes it so if it happens – she’s not going to jet.

So let me get this straight.... If I call a girl that I # closed, she answers, I get her laughing and I see that as an IOI and ask her out on a date then I'm a fuvkin' fool??? LOL You should probablly tell that to all the girls I've successfully done that too over the years...

You misunderstood… I said a guy was a fvcking fool if he takes her simply responding positively to a few of her “text” as a strong enough IOI to go from that to asking her out.

 

[sodbuster]

Be very glad I'm not your boss, your ass would hit the pavement faster than an AW for texting on company time[the same as stealing-you are stealing time I paid you to work and using it as your own]