How long did it take for you to be fully "unplugged"?

[LukaGrey]

Hey guys,

I'm super new to the site and to red pill in general. I found I was hesitant to read The Rational Male due to it upsetting my programming. I pushed through and found that it wasn't as bad as my previous beta programming would have thought.

Regardless, now I am at a crossroads because everything I have been taught has been there to forward the female narrative. (dominant mother, SUPER beta dad, no brothers, only older sisters) and I am wondering how long it took for you to fully internalize the ideas to the point where they were more automatic. As I said I am very new but I feel like I have to be super conscious of my behavior to make sure I don't slip back into my previous beta frame.

I am noticing subtle changes in the behaviors of women, and also other men, and I enjoy it, but I feel I am being pulled back to my old frame a lot. Any tips or tricks on the unplugging process?


Cheers

 

[Gamisch]

This is any learning process;
1.unconsciously UNable
2.Consciously UNable
3.consciously able
4 . UNconsciously able

1 is the worst of the worst bluepilled guy. The cuck. 2 is the blackpill phase. You are now probably at 3. You wanna be 4 though.
Completely natural. Able to handle almost any situation with women . This takes experience, you must go through several battlefields and get your shoes dirty. on your journey you might play a few and get played a few times.

The most common mistake men make is use their newfound knowledge to fuel their bluepilled ideology. My advice would be to ;

-have clear laws. Dont budge for no woman.
- get lots of experiences. Just theory is simply not enough.
- stay on the forum. Read older post , there are some absolute gems on in the archives.
- select the right youtubers. I personally like coach EO his laid back, classy style.

I bet there are more members with some great ideas.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

I remember spending about a year in deep depression when I learned what I consider to be “the true nature” of women. I still forged forward and did my own version of Sherman’s March to the Sea with women. I was angry as well and didn’t give a hoot about who I hurt or how I did it. I was a ripe bastard too.

It took probably two years to internalize game and have it start to become part of the grain of my existence. Fake it till you make it, force yourself through enough iterations and you develop “muscle memory.”

 

[LukaGrey]

This is any learning process;
1.unconsciously UNable
2.Consciously UNable
3.consciously able
4 . UNconsciously able

1 is the worst of the worst bluepilled guy. The cuck. 2 is the blackpill phase. You are now probably at 3. You wanna be 4 though.
Completely natural. Able to handle almost any situation with women . This takes experience, you must go through several battlefields and get your shoes dirty. on your journey you might play a few and get played a few times.

The most common mistake men make is use their newfound knowledge to fuel their bluepilled ideology. My advice would be to ;

-have clear laws. Dont budge for no woman.
- get lots of experiences. Just theory is simply not enough.
- stay on the forum. Read older post , there are some absolute gems on in the archives.
- select the right youtubers. I personally like coach EO his laid back, classy style.

I bet there are more members with some great ideas.

Great advice, I am not a super hard case because I have had quite a bit of experience with women prior to discovering the red pill. But I still feel uncomfortable being authoritative or "standing up" against women so to speak. I feel bad rejecting them, and I feel mean if I do things for my own reasons rather than reasons based on not "Rocking the boat" etc.

 

[Zimbabwe]

The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than you think, the redpill is just the tip of the ice berg.

 

[The Duke]

Hey guys,

I'm super new to the site and to red pill in general. I found I was hesitant to read The Rational Male due to it upsetting my programming. I pushed through and found that it wasn't as bad as my previous beta programming would have thought.

Regardless, now I am at a crossroads because everything I have been taught has been there to forward the female narrative. (dominant mother, SUPER beta dad, no brothers, only older sisters) and I am wondering how long it took for you to fully internalize the ideas to the point where they were more automatic. As I said I am very new but I feel like I have to be super conscious of my behavior to make sure I don't slip back into my previous beta frame.

I am noticing subtle changes in the behaviors of women, and also other men, and I enjoy it, but I feel I am being pulled back to my old frame a lot. Any tips or tricks on the unplugging process?


Cheers

Experience is the best teacher. The more girls you go thru, the faster you learn, and the better you become. Simply being aware of your shortcomings tells me you are on the right path. Stay tuned into this forum, and hang out with other redpill guys.

At some point you will reach the angry stage that @Pierce.Manhammer mentions.

Its somewhere between steps 3 and 4. 3.2 to be exact!


3.consciously able
4 . UNconsciously able

 

[Divorced w 3]

I’m working on it now. I have a lot of alpha support surrounding me, it’s just a little tweaking based on a lot of good life experiences… dust yourself off and go make the moves on a hot young piece of ass

 

[Divorced w 3]

Speaking of, my 23 year old piece of hot ass found my linkedin and now knows I’m a father of 3. The plot thickens!! Time to put this to use boys.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I remember spending about a year in deep depression when I learned what I consider to be “the true nature” of women.

That was quite a while. I became very depressed for like a week, and mildly depressed over a few months. I think it's unavoidable for those who truly accept the red pill.

 

[RickPound]

Good thread. Like some, I did alright with the ladies even before starting the journey and there’s a bit of depression or whatever you wanna call it during the process. Like ignorance is bliss if you do ok while still blue pill, but it’s the ones that really sting that bring you here and then everything changes.

A lot of guys come here looking for the answer and what to do about a particular woman that hurt them (breakup, oneitis, etc) and learn about a whole new world - but never have the chance to use it on that actual girl. It then sets into motion the path towards being “unplugged” with everything that follows.

Right now my current girl is begging for the more beta me, but being so fresh off the recent eye opening experience of what women are capable of, I can’t do it. Sucks for her or sucks for me - I’m not sure.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

When you've gone too far to the other side, realize that is just as bad only in different ways. Pretty much always happens with people new to these ideas until they recalibrate.

Once you've reached that point aim to fall somewhere between 35-65 on the 0-100 scale...too far on either side isn't good.

Some never come off the full move to the other side which isn't good. Extremes are never going to give you the best results. Really that's for anything in life.

 

[Kotaix]

I had a solid year of red pill rage before I was really fit to start dating, and about two years before it became "automatic."

The hardest part is that you can't really talk to people about red pill stuff. If you do, you'll learn the hard way that it's a great way to lose friends and drive away family and women. If you want to keep your friends and the girls you pick up, the best thing you can do is let them believe whatever they want while standing by your convictions.

Live and die by principles, not social programming or trying to gain someone's favor. Everything else flows naturally from there.

 

[LukaGrey]

The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than you think, the redpill is just the tip of the ice berg.

Any recommendations of where I should go next to expand my knowledge? I am almost finished rollo's 3rd book

 

[RickPound]

To answer your question, it’s been 2 years and I’d say I’m trying to calibrate because swinging too far to one extreme is not good, as @BackInTheGame78 said.

 

[Zimbabwe]

Any recommendations of where I should go next to expand my knowledge? I am almost finished rollo's 3rd book

The best way to learn is through experience, meet and date a wide variety of women and compare it to what you have read online.

Form your own opinions from there, once you are ready you can read into the more obscure redpill/purple pill and black pill stuff.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

I don't believe it ever ends. Nor it should. It's a journey that looks different from man to man. But to your question, there are certain moments of "awakening or realization" the more you are involved in communities like this and the more you experience the highs and lows of intergender dynamics yourself.

In reference to your analogy from Matrix, which is where the red/blue pill term comes from, Neo is constantly realizing how deep "the rabbit hole" goes. And there is a journey of him realizing who he is and how reality works around him.

 

[LukaGrey]

I don't believe it ever ends. Nor it should. It's a journey that looks different from man to man. But to your question, there are certain moments of "awakening or realization" the more you are involved in communities like this and the more you experience the highs and lows of intergender dynamics yourself.

In reference to your analogy from Matrix, which is where the red/blue pill term comes from, Neo is constantly realizing how deep "the rabbit hole" goes. And there is a journey of him realizing who he is and how reality works around him.

This is awesome advice, thank you!