How is important is AGE in the dating world?

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iqqi said:
I did not say that was my idea of what a guy your age should act like, but it clearly illustrates STR8UP's own fears and hang ups about what middle age means.

No, that's the stereotypical view of what a man in his 30s "should be doing".
All of us men know that stereotype. It's ingrained into us from an early age.
 

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Don't listen to iqqi as first and foremost she is full of sh!t and pimping the feminist agenda wherever she goes on this forum.

Listen to Str8up and the other DJ's instead.

Str8up's last post in here really was something special and advice that every guy should follow.
It is a shame this would turn into another iqqi bashing session. As you can see, Huskybear, some hold onto grudges so much that nothing that is said is objective. Well hopefully you can see past the surface of silly things such as that. The spillage that came out in some of the above posts should be telling enough. I'd suggest that certain posters maybe quote something I said that they disagree with, without distorting what I've said or putting words in my mouth.

I stand by what I've said. Not as a "feminist" (lol at THAT consideration of me), not as Oprah or Dr. Phil (I don't even watch TV), but as an observer. Anyways, you already said you see what I mean.

Besides, I think my stance on this would have been different up until recently. IDEALLY one could act like a child forever. But what I have OBSERVED is that middle aged men and women acting like teenagers and young adults is never very attractive. It is what it is.

I'm not saying lose the joie de vivre. It is good to have a little impishness and childishness in your soul at all times. But don't act like you are still a child when you are a grown man. Don't try to be 19 when you are 35.

Don't go out of your way to prove that you are still young and hip. Fact is, you are older now. Some people go out of their way to prove they are still "young at heart" and in reality just look delusional. Save the best parts of you, including your young at heart whims, for a person who deserves to see all of that. Until then, I think it is best to be mature and wise at 40, and not "I can run faster and burp louder than that 22 year old over there!"
 

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No, that's the stereotypical view of what a man in his 30s "should be doing".
All of us men know that stereotype. It's ingrained into us from an early age.
Let me guess: from them evil womanfolks again!

:rolleyes:

Men AND women have stereotypical roles of what they should be at certain ages. It isn't some feminist agenda, don't you see how silly you sound? ALL people face the burden of where they "should be" at a certain age.

Not just men. Funny though how much some of you fight against what is stereotyped for you, and then are dogmatic about enforcing and expounding those same stereotypes for women. Its like that saying, you feel the need to beat someone down in order to build yourselves up.

It is never attractive to beat down women. ;)
 

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iqqi said:
don't you see how silly you sound?
Personally i think "middle age" at 36 sounds silly. What if str8 or I live to be over 100. Then middle age is 50.
 

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Personally i think "middle age" at 36 sounds silly. What if str8 or I live to be over 100. Then middle age is 50.

Most people do not live to be a 100, my friend. Middle age is the term for the period after young adult. That tends to be around 35-40, and up til about 60 or so. It is what it is. I didn't come up with the term, and neither did feminists.
 

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It's a stupid term.
 

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iqqi said:
Men AND women have stereotypical roles of what they should be at certain ages. It isn't some feminist agenda, don't you see how silly you sound? ALL people face the burden of where they "should be" at a certain age.

Not just men. Funny though how much some of you fight against what is stereotyped for you, and then are dogmatic about enforcing and expounding those same stereotypes for women.
I never said ANYONE should "act their age". I see 30 and 40 something women with a lifestyle similar to women a decade younger all the time. As long as their dress and such is appropriate (no muffin tops popping out of low cut jeans, which isn't appropriate on women of any age, but that's beside the point) I can appreciate the fact that they make an effort to stay attractive. I don't judge anyone unfairly or try to slot them into societal constraints, unlike some people.

Stereotypical roles....fukk that. When someone starts talking that BS to my face I QUICKLY show them how ridiculous their "logic" (brainwashing) is.

To the OP....if you're gonna "act your age" you might as well "be yourself" too. We all know how far that can get you :up:
 

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STR8UP said:
I never said ANYONE should "act their age". I see 30 and 40 something women with a lifestyle similar to women a decade younger all the time. As long as their dress and such is appropriate (no muffin tops popping out of low cut jeans, which isn't appropriate on women of any age, but that's beside the point) I can appreciate the fact that they make an effort to stay attractive. I don't judge anyone unfairly or try to slot them into societal constraints, unlike some people.

Stereotypical roles....fukk that. When someone starts talking that BS to my face I QUICKLY show them how ridiculous their "logic" (brainwashing) is.

To the OP....if you're gonna "act your age" you might as well "be yourself" too. We all know how far that can get you :up:
If you see 30 year old women with a lifestyle similar to a 20 year old woman, that itself could be cause for alarm. But then again, to make that statement you'd have to be buying into a stereotypical 20 year old lifestyle... now wouldn't you?

Why do you think that making an effort to stay attractive is a stereotypical trait for young people? I found that statement to be strange.

Nobody said anything about stereotypes. This is more of a discussion on a man who is concerned with how younger women view his older age, and also how he wants to still be in his 20's (he said he thinks he is still 28).

Fact: 40 is not the new 20
Fact: Nothing is wrong with 40
Fact: Maturity is sexy. Immaturity wasn't even sexy when you were 20, so why hang onto it when you are 40?

Question: Why is my suggestion to embrace your maturity and wisdom (that comes with age) being attacked with such hostility... in the Mature Men's forum? Does anyone see the irony?
 

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I don't know, Jay-Z says 30 is the new 20 and I tend to agree with him.
 

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20 is 20 and 30 is 30 and 88 is 88 and when you die you die.

Fear of aging has to do with death in most cases, and here in the West, it has to do with social expectations and a youth obsessed culture. It is really sad and destructive, and the best thing to do is rise above it.
 

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No this is Jay-Z we're talking about. He's cool.
 

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Personally i think "middle age" at 36 sounds silly. What if str8 or I live to be over 100. Then middle age is 50.
I am middle-aged and proud ,and I fought long and hard to get here. Unless you took Neil Diamond records to parties in the seventies you are NOT qualified to claim middle age. Unless you lust after Winnabagos and take Metamusil every morning you are not entitled to claim. I resent you young 'uns, in your thirties and forties, claiming to be middle-aged - You are not Middle anything YET. So piss off and quit trying to join into my fun - you have not earned it yet !
You out there Juando ?
 

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I am middle-aged and proud ,and I fought long and hard to get here. Unless you took Neil Diamond records to parties in the seventies you are NOT qualified to claim middle age. Unless you lust after Winnabagos and take Metamusil every morning you are not entitled to claim. I resent you young 'uns, in your thirties and forties, claiming to be middle-aged - You are not Middle anything YET. So piss off and quit trying to join into my fun - you have not earned it yet !
You out there Juando ?
Spoken like a true senile old timer.

;)

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Juando said:
Numbers crap indeed... recently a girl (27) who was just starting to spend much time with me and definitely liked me, once she found out my age, things were never the same. We actually got much closer but that "NUMBER" was like an albatross around my neck, not so much for me but for her.

I'm not saying her reaction would be the universal one but it really did put a crimp in our connection. Never mind that SHE could not keep up with me in just about any activity.

I ended up NEXTING her recently.
Lesson learned:
Act the way you feel, go after what and who you want, and be discreet about revealing your age too soon.

Yeah, my take is girls are reacting to the number of your age. My suggestion is tell them you're 28 since you look 28.
 

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Yeah, my take is girls are reacting to the number of your age. My suggestion is tell them you're 28 since you look 28.
Ah, the perils of lying about your age.

I met a man a couple of months ago. It took me three months to go on a date with him. There were just too many little red flags that made me avoid him at first. One of them was that he said he was 24, yet he looked more like 34. Why would I want to date someone who is 4 years younger than me, but looks like he is 10+ years older than me? Since I am kind of naive, I just thought maybe he did a lot of drugs and drinking, and thought "damn too bad! He looks old as hell for his age..."

When we went on the date finally, he mentioned something about being 33. HA. He LIED about his age... and I almost didn't go out with him because I thought he was too young! He lied because he thought I was like 21 or 22, and that I wouldn't date him if he was 33.

I'd RATHER date a 33 year old than a 24 year old, and now I won't see him again because he is a creepy a$$ liar.

This is not the first time a man has lied to me about his age. They ALWAYS slip up, and usually right away!

Don't lie about your age. Embrace it.
 

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It is unnecessary to lie about age. People make assumptions based on looks. Only an uncouth person would directly ask someone about their age. So if you look younger than you are, someone could be in for a rude shock without any lying taking place.

I'm sure it happens. Sometimes dumb people ask indirect questions such as when did you start your course etc to try and work it out. That's even more irritating than a direct question.

Women love to tell people about how someone told them that they look 10 years younger than they are. If anyone tells me that kind of rubbish I just say "This is exactly how all people my age are supposed to look, the others have just failed to take care of themselves."

The average young man can't tell a day cravat from a bowtie so it is no use trying to emulate young man fashion because it is intrinsically in bad taste. It is not that you can't follow it because it is inappropriate it's just that nobody with good sense would follow it. Pants which show undergarments, tattoos, mohawks the list goes on. I dare say one sees very few 50 year old men with mohawks (perhaps the need to preserve hair rather than dispose of it becomes more pressing).

Age is very important in the dating world, but for different reasons for men and women. I would think that the reasons are obvious.
 

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my take is; who gives a fukk.

age is a fukking number. time is man made. it doesn't mean sh!t.

true, the older you get, you become more wise, and your stock goes up (your value), and if you still look young well then your the cream of the crop as far as im concerned. all the power of an old man wrapped up in a young stud body. if banging away is your thing then go for it.

if the age question comes up just ask... why you wanna know? i mean if this is just chicks youe lookin to bang who gives a fukk you dont have to tell them a thing.

but if your lookin for wife/companionship might aswel tell em real age. and tell em straight too, like your proud of it, and so you should be, its good genes.

i DO understand how age is a tricky thing. it is that way for me. certain ppl just cant grasp things sometimes. and its not your job to have to explain it to them. you can be upfront and have ppl go waahh?? (usually an idiot or an immature person) or you can dodge the ques in a clever way. howeveer if the person is mature and you tell them (meaning they understand that age don't mean sh!t) then they'll go ah ok.

its all perceptions. as far as im concerned age isn't an accurate perception of anything.
 

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jophil28 said:
I am middle-aged and proud ,and I fought long and hard to get here. Unless you took Neil Diamond records to parties in the seventies you are NOT qualified to claim middle age. Unless you lust after Winnabagos and take Metamusil every morning you are not entitled to claim. I resent you young 'uns, in your thirties and forties, claiming to be middle-aged - You are not Middle anything YET. So piss off and quit trying to join into my fun - you have not earned it yet !
You out there Juando ?
But you have a 19yr old hottie who can stir the Metamusil for you. Most old guys DONT. :up:

And I thought my age with 18yr olds was pushing it. LMAO You are the man if you can pull that. :D

P.S.....They make clear fiber stuff now that looks like water. lol

I would get made fun of for eating prunes. Damn society has screwed people up. I was like... It's a damn dried plum, and while you think it is for old people, they are some of the healthiest fruits out there, so shut up. I proudly eat my prunes in front of everyone.
 

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I'd have to agree with Swifty on this.

I don't think its about age at all....act who you are. The older you get, the more experience you have. Some women like that, some don't care. If acting who you are doesn't work, time to tweak and do some introspection and make the changes needed to get where you want to be.

Its not about age for me, its about what I have to offer...and for now, I have more experience than the 20 yr old.
 

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Whenever someone says I am X but look x-10 or x-15 I realize that this person is fighting a losing battle. Every day that passes, you are going to lose. Don't fight the inevitability of getting older. Remember the tag line on "Six Feet Under?" Every day above ground is a GOOD one.

This is controversial but BE yourself. Yes, change some behaviors to be less of an AFC more of a DJ. That's fine to do, but is really all external and only mildly tweaking who you essentially are. BE 40 and you will find there are women who like YOU at 40, and don't like the person who is wishing they weren't.
 
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