How important is the car?

[TooColdUlrick]

Originally posted by MetalFortress

Besides, when it comes to shredding backroads, an old Honda is going to eat a muscle car alive.

uh, what planet are you from dude? my super clean all original 69 Roadrunner w/ 440 Magnum will snack on any Honda.

to rit71...a couple years back i bought a 1974 Oldsmobile Regency 98 2dr, pimpin red with white top, all original, from original owner, Rocket 455 under hood with 60,000 miles on it, power everything. not a scratch on it, inside or out--spotless. only made 2,000 of them, and i will bet there aren't 200 still on the road, and mine is one of the cleanest remaining i'll bet again.

price paid: $3,000
value now: $10,000 ish

and going up, since 74 is the magic year due to the 30 year issue with smogging it, etc. don't have to get it smogged anymore. registration was a whopping $40. it does get only 10mpg and demands premium, painful to fill that 30 gallon tank up.

turns heads like no other, hauls fukking ass! pimp ride all the way. name of car is Huggy Bear. chicks totally dig it.

so there you have it.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
What the hell? Old school american cars are all fine and good, but you're ghetto as hell if you think repairing a HONDA is expensive.

Besides, when it comes to shredding backroads, an old Honda is going to eat a muscle car alive.

When speaking about prices of repairs I guess it depends on the year of your Honda doesn't it? I take it you're speaking about Honda Civics, CRX's or Accords from the 80's or early 90's. Sure the routine maintenance may be cheap but when it comes time for those cars to have major work done most people just get rid of them. And for good reason. They are a dime a dozen and have no style or class whatsoever.

So while you're shredding backroads in your Honda, TooColdUlrick and I will be pleasantly cruising in our classics with a couple of hotties that wouldn't be caught dead in your tin can import.

Don't believe me? Park your old Honda beside my car and ask the next ten ladies to walk by which ride they would rather roll in.

 

[DonRob]

Good lord you have no game if you think a what kind of car you drive matters. Sure if your trying to date the teenie bopper group.

Get a decent 5 or 6 year old domestic car in decent shape. You should be able to find a dodge intrepid or something along those lines for under 6K @ 36 months with 20% down (1200 for you rocket scientists) your looking at a very low monthly.

KEEP THE CAR CLEAN. Women (ie not teenie boppers) are not comfortable if your car stinks or is filthy with garbage. Same with your pad. Keep it super clean.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by DonRob
Good lord you have no game if you think a what kind of car you drive matters. Sure if your trying to date the teenie bopper group.

Sweet!

...KEEP THE CAR CLEAN. Women (ie not teenie boppers) are not comfortable if your car stinks or is filthy with garbage. Same with your pad. Keep it super clean.

Most definitely true!

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by DonRob
Good lord you have no game if you think a what kind of car you drive matters. Sure if your trying to date the teenie bopper group.

Obviously you've never owned a really sweet car. I'm not saying you need one to get women but it definitely gets a reaction. More so than a clean Dodge Intrepid. And not just from the teenie boppers either. Actually its the gold digging older chicks that are more impressed.

Sorry to get involved in any flame war here. The original poster obviously doesn't have 6K to buy a car or make payments. I was just trying to give him some advice about purchasing a car. One that would cause the most reaction from the ladies for the cheapest price.

Peace.

 

[DonRob]

Originally posted by Slickster
Obviously you've never owned a really sweet car. I'm not saying you need one to get women but it definitely gets a reaction. More so than a clean Dodge Intrepid. And not just from the teenie boppers either. Actually its the gold digging older chicks that are more impressed.

Sorry to get involved in any flame war here. The original poster obviously doesn't have 6K to buy a car or make payments. I was just trying to give him some advice about purchasing a car. One that would cause the most reaction from the ladies for the cheapest price.

Peace.

LMAO Ive owned BMW's (as in Brand new) Acura's, Lexus and on and on....

Right now I have a 40.000.00 custom chopper AND a 7 series BMW.

My income is in the top 5% of americans.... and Im telling you, if you think a car matters, YOU HAVE NO GAME

 

[al77]

Originally posted by DonRob


1. Im telling you, if you think a car matters, YOU HAVE NO GAME

Right now I have a 40.000.00 custom chopper AND a 7 series BMW.
My income is in the top 5% of americans.... and

1. Sure, I agree that a cool car alone won't give you any huge advantages. But, a bad car (or a lack of it) can easily be a decent turn off for women. So does car matter? Well..yes, it does - in the "negative" sense.

2. If you are in top 5%, then you got a huge advatange. Women flock around you just due to that fact. And if you still read this forum then you are either extremely picky or have no game.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by DonRob
.... and Im telling you, if you think a car matters, YOU HAVE NO GAME

You know, I believe I've picked up more women on my bike (as in the type with pedals) than I have with a car. Hmmm....

 

[bullmoose]

Originally posted by DonRob
Good lord you have no game if you think a what kind of car you drive matters.

Yes and no. My car is a convo opener and often a deal-closer.

I drag race semi-professionally (you wanna talk weekend hobbies that get vagin@s wet and squishy?) and have about $11K into a restored, pro-street, BDS 4:71 blown (w/Hilborn scoop and twin carbs sticking 16" through the hood) vintage Fastback Mustang that eats the competition -- whether it's some punk@$$ in a POWERED BY HONDA Honda that looks like it was launched out of a UFO challenging me at a light, or the hordes of cloned 2005 whatevers in the parking lot around it -- alive. The girls like the shiny phallic thing jutting turgidly through the hood; the guys admire and fear it. And it gives me confidence, because I built the sucker myself. Every thumbs-up I get when I roll is one more stroke to my ego, and by the time I walk into a club I've had a bunch of total strangers tell me I'm bad@ss. I walk in the door the coolest, smoothest, most capable muthafvcka in the place. Not feeling it, not thinking it, KNOWING it.

Anonymity is for pvssies. Make a f---ing ENTRANCE.

Your ride is often your entrance, often your first impression. It can be a good thing when the first impression is the WRONG impression -- I've been told that people expect a guy with a greasy mullet and a vinyl Iron Maiden jacket to step out but usually I'm in a linen shirt and $400 Italian shoes. When they see who's driving (I'm told), they get REALLY interested. And when I meet a girl inside a club and she sees what I'm driving, she gets interested -- I guaran-fvcking-tee it was not what she was expecting.

She'll usually say something like, "Wow, you're full of surprises."

To which I say something along the lines of, "Yes, I am. Get in."

Is my ride my only game? Hell, no! The ride is just one slice of the pie. You can have a hella fly ride but if you're a spoon-chested mama's boy with zero game you're gonna sit there all night with your d*ck in your hand because the car alone is not going to get you laid. You gotta get up, you gotta talk to girls, and that takes confidence. It's a long road from the first glances to getting her spreading on the hood.

Some guy who rode the bus to the bar may leave with the HB 9.9 but I guarantee you that he has way more game than anyone else in the place, he's GOT to have that game to compensate. At least in this town. I'd like to meet a guy in this town who has no wheels who scores regularly in the shiny-people clubs. I'd like to see him operate.

Professional driver on closed course. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Slickster]

Originally posted by DonRob
LMAO Ive owned BMW's (as in Brand new) Acura's, Lexus and on and on....

Right now I have a 40.000.00 custom chopper AND a 7 series BMW.

My income is in the top 5% of americans.... and Im telling you, if you think a car matters, YOU HAVE NO GAME

I wasn't trying to insult you Rob. Just making a joke there. I never said you NEED a hot car to pull women.

However can you honestly tell me that owning and driving those sweet cars have never produced a single positive reaction from the ladies? If not there must be some unseen forces at work.

Maybe you are living in the only gold digger-less town in the world. For the rest of us though, we have to live with the fact that hot cars turn heads and plain ones don't.

Once again, Peace.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Slickster
Maybe you are living in the only gold digger-less town in the world. For the rest of us though, we have to live with the fact that hot cars turn heads and plain ones don't.

Slickster, you got it perfect.
The car shows your financial standing, and if it is better than just good, it is much more of an advantage than good looks.

 

[Derek Flint]

Originally posted by MetalFortress
Old BMWs are awesome too, and almost as reliable as old Hondas (and have status too), but maintenance will be more expensive.

My Daily Driver is an 86 BMW 325 es - fun car to drive, bulletproof as it has been inexpensive to run and maintain, and, it will easily see 250K

Paid $2,200 for it 2 years and 25K ago, and have spent about $500.00 on repairs and maintanence.

The old 325's from the 80's will run forever.

You will spend a little more on parts and maintanence, but it evens out as these cars are rock solid.

Plus, driving a BMW is still cooler than driving a Honda or a Toyota.

 

[Derek Flint]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
Old bimmers aren't good for ppl who own old bimmers 'cus the cant afford a new one.

Errr...wrong.

Old bimmers run forever and make good daily drivers.

I have a high-dollar weekend car (99 Corvette convertible) but I'm not going to rack up the miles on it on the weekdays going to work, grocery shopping, dry cleaners, etc..

Also, I don't take it on first dates either - I save it for the second date or so, and when the girls wonder why I never told them I have such a cool car, I tell them "because you didn't ask"

Besides, it's better not to talk about your material possessions, achievments etc...as it puts you in the same category as all the other clowns out there tryng to impress her with your material possessions and such.

 

[iveyleeger]

$400 Italian leather shoes, eh?

You ought to be *swarmed* with women. They see a bright future shopping for fancy footwear with you )

P.S. For the rest of us who aren't rich -- buy a $50 pair of black leather shoes and five bucks worth of shoe polish and use it before you go out. I've gotten many compliments on my shoes this way. And if you walk to the bars you will actually meet people along the way.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Derek Flint

I have a high-dollar weekend car (99 Corvette convertible) but I'm not going to rack up the miles on it on the weekdays going to work, grocery shopping, dry cleaners, etc..

Also, I don't take it on first dates either - I save it for the second date or so, and when the girls wonder why I never told them I have such a cool car, I tell them "because you didn't ask"

Besides, it's better not to talk about your material possessions, achievments etc...as it puts you in the same category as all the other clowns out there tryng to impress her with your material possessions and such.

Sure dont talk about your car even if it is good.
But I thought we are talking about cars not as a means of getting to places.. but as something women would analyze.

The pic is awesome...but, do you think women would think you have money if you drive old bmw? They usually fail to think further: they see old car, aha, he is not well off - if it is your only car.

If you have Corvette convertible, why do you need to show her your old bimmer?????

Plus. You said it is fun to drive. I dont doubt that. But at 250k you have tons of chances that the engine just would go crazy...or something else, that costs about the same amount of money you spend when you bought the car. Thats why they sell it cheap....
it seems like a good deal up to the first serious problem.

 

[al77]

Originally posted by iveyleeger
$400 Italian leather shoes, eh?

You ought to be *swarmed* with women. They see a bright future shopping for fancy footwear with you )

P.S. For the rest of us who aren't rich -- buy a $50 pair of black leather shoes and five bucks worth of shoe polish and use it before you go out. I've gotten many compliments on my shoes this way. And if you walk to the bars you will actually meet people along the way.

It works both ways: if a man has $400 shoes, he sure has at least $40k car...so yes, women see their bright future shopping...
Thats a huge turn on.

FRom the other pov...99% women cannot figure out how much are the shoes $100 or $400 or even $50... . They check it out - looks "cool", and you are in. But we cannot pull that off with cars...anyone know what old and new bimmer costs....

Although there are always some tricks: example: new BMW Z4 2.5i is just abour $35k... (not new but still VERY presentable can be under $30k!)
It is not that much if you compare its sports "cool" look with some ugly mass production us cars of a very similar price.

 

[Derek Flint]

Originally posted by al77
Sure dont talk about your car even if it is good.
But I thought we are talking about cars not as a means of getting to places.. but as something women would analyze.

The pic is awesome...but, do you think women would think you have money if you drive old bmw? They usually fail to think further: they see old car, aha, he is not well off - if it is your only car.

If you have Corvette convertible, why do you need to show her your old bimmer?????

Plus. You said it is fun to drive. I dont doubt that. But at 250k you have tons of chances that the engine just would go crazy...or something else, that costs about the same amount of money you spend when you bought the car. Thats why they sell it cheap....
it seems like a good deal up to the first serious problem.

Actually, the BMW has 182K on it.

I do expect to see 250K as these cars easily meet and exceed that milestone.

Doing the basic maintanence on these cars will keep you out of trouble.

Timing belt every 50 K is important.

Other than that, the BMW straight 6 mated with the manual 5-speed is near-bulletproof.

These cars are built like tanks.

Not in a heavy, sluggish, way, but in a dependable way.

As for the Vette, I don't like girls to see it early on.

Having a nice ride only attracts the types of girls you don't want.

Most 1st dates I meet for coffee anyways, but they sometimes see what I leave or arrive in.

It's kind of like a test - if they're into me after seeing my pull up in a car nearly 20 years old, then I know it's about me and not what I own.

Trust me, I'm by no means rich, but I'm not poor either.

Bottom line - one can buy a decent, dependable car for around 2K

 

[al77]

Originally posted by Derek Flint
Actually, the BMW has 182K on it.
I do expect to see 250K as these cars easily meet and exceed that milestone.

As for the Vette, I don't like girls to see it early on.

Having a nice ride only attracts the types of girls you don't want.

Trust me, I'm by no means rich, but I'm not poor either.

Bottom line - one can buy a decent, dependable car for around 2K

I am just thinking out loud:
Sure, you have a chance to see even more than 250k on it. But.
You will have to spend another 1-2k for repairs to get there. If it is your only car, the time when you have to drive to mechanic, wait while they order parts from "the middle of nowhere" usually makes people nervous and they are willing to sell old bimmer cheap. It is a good car, it is a dependable car. Yes. but there are other factors they diminish its value.

"As for the Vette, I don't like girls to see it early on."
Ok, I undersatnd. But what then you bought it for? For pure excitement of getting ahead some hondas after the traffic light turns green?? Or after a cop stops you after you were tempted to press the pedal 1/1000 inch more?

If you drive a convertible Vette, you dont fall in the "average" category let alone "poor".

You can buy a decent car for 2k.. yes. How long it will be dependable is what really we have to think about...
Much better is to buy 1-2 y.o. sports looking bmw for under $30k and dont worry about it, plus it looks "cool" for any kind of women, since they are not able to figure out it is not $80k bimmer anyway.

 

[Derek Flint]

First off, I bought the Corvette for myself, as I did my previous one, an 87 Convertible.

Not to race someone at a stoplight or to impress anyone, especially some chick.

Or some poser in a Honda or other riced-out clown car.

And I've never been stopped or pulled ove r in it either.

Also, I didn't buy it new, I let the original owner take the depreciation hit and bought it when it was about 15 months old, and for about 16K less than the previous owner did.

Regardless, when you spend that much money on a car, one tends to be responsible with it.

I'll open it up here and there, but without a passenger and where there is no traffic on the road.

Also, I live in the San Francisco Bay Area,
Marin county to be exact, and Corvettes are considered redneck cars among all the newer BMW M3's and MBZ AMG's around here.

100K cars around here are common.

It all depends on what part of the country you live in.

Around here, a Corvette doesn't get any attention.

Secondly, any car will cost you money and maintanence.

I used to have a 94 BMW 325is, and that car nearly broke me.

Spent thousands on it and it was always in the shop.

The point of the older BMW's (mid-80's 3-seies) is that they are more reliable than just about any other car from that era and in that price range.

Not to be insultive, but I know far more about these cars than you do, as I did lots of reasearch before buying it and have since learned tons more about these cars.

And if it blows up tommorow, so what? - I've already gotten my money's worth out of it.

These cars are easy to work on, and I do almost all my own work, unlike most newer cars which are a PITA to work on, and you need all kinds of specialty tools.

Parts are easy to find locally and on-line, and can be delivered overnight if needed.

All I need to work on it is some basic tools and a multi-meter.

I wanted an inexpensive daily driver that I could rack the miles up on, but also wanted something dependable.

I was hesitant after my previous BMW experience, but I did my homework and found the car that would fit the bill.

The bottom line is that if the original poster wants inexpensive, dependable transportation, I would highly recommend a 83-89 3-Series BMW

 

[bullmoose]

Originally posted by al77


FRom the other pov...99% women cannot figure out how much are the shoes $100 or $400 or even $50... . They check it out - looks "cool", and you are in.

Very true. The difference is not in the appearance; you can go to Macy's and throw down $150 and get a good set of Johnston and Murphys that will look KILLER if they're kept shined and you take them to a cobbler every couple years. Heck, you could throw down $60 at Kenneth Cole for some good-looking shoes, but don't expect to get them repaired ever. And you'll need to buy moleskin before you go dancing in them, and they'll cost you in socks over the long run.

I have two hella-expensive pairs of shoes; one set of Italian cap toes and one pair of Italian chukkas (demi-boots.) I have 5 pairs of work shoes that ran $100-150 a pair -- mostly English: wing tips, wing tip Doc Martens, Johnston & Murphys, and a couple others. The difference is on *my* end -- I can dance all night in a pair of $400 shoes; they feel like moccasins. My feet don't get tired, & therefore I don't get tired.

Along the same lines, my watch is a $295 copy of a $10,000 watch from the 30's that was given solely to French Foreign Legionnaire Officers -- which gives me a great line of bull$#!+ to spew out about my whole lineage of adventurer-types, ya da ya da. It looks & sounds EXACTLY like the original, keeps perfect time, and nobody else in the bar -- or probably in this city -- has one. There's a lot to be said for faux anything if it's done right and is a high-end knockoff; I wouldn't be caught dead with a $15 Rolex copy but you'd have to be a jeweler or an antique dealer to tell the difference between my watch and the real thing. Similarly, I wouldn't wear $20 shoes from Payless, no matter how well they were shined.

And no girl has any idea how much my car is worth -- there's nothing around to compare it to.

You on my six, yet? This works. By presenting yourself as outside the norm, there's nothing else to compare you to. Supply and demand. . . .