How important are a man's clothes?

[Bigpapa]

Thats fine but I’m not going to a high end venue like a white tablecloth steakhouse with a man dressed like that.

Early on when we were dating my exBF called me and said he had made reservations at Maestros (high end white tablecloth steakhouse). I dressed in a beautiful dress with pretty heels & bag. He showed up to pick me up in an Adidas track suit and sneakers. I asked if I should change since our plans had (obviously in my mind) changed. He said no, we have a 7:30. I told him “Look. You are not dressed for Maestro’s. I’m not going there with you wearing a track suit & sneakers.” So we went out and went somewhere else. He never made that mistake again.

A few weeks ago I met a man who was wearing a gray college t shirt and khaki Bermuda shorts and sneakers and a ball cap. Mid 30s guy. Handsome. We got to chatting and he asked me to join him for dinner at a similar type high end place as above. I told him I’d be happy to meet him there but not with him dressed like that. He said “Oh I know. I’ll swing by mine and change”...and he did. This particular guy is extremely wealthy. He dresses way down on purpose. But then instead of keeping his Ferrari key in his pocket he sets it down on the table on top of his phone (show off much, lol). I had seen the car as I was parked next to it in my ride. So I busted his chops a little about that. We showed up at the chop house at the same time. He pulled into the front valet spots at an angle and took them both up. I pulled in next to him, horrible parking jobs...and got out. The valet guys were cracking up. I gave them my keys and tip & said “You guys get to sort that mess right out”. After dinner the cars were beautifully parked side by side. It was cute.

We ended up chatting a good bit about style and dress and all that sort of thing. He doesn’t want to attract pure gold diggers. I told him to keep his key in his pocket for God’s sake in that case. He was surprisingly insecure, which I wasn’t expecting.

He struck me as kind of unsure how to present himself to the world. And that is a tough place to be, especially when you most want to be appreciated for who you are rather than for what you have.

money can”t buy taste

 

[Atom Smasher]

I've made a couple of observations about clothing.

First, although these old saying seem trite, many of them are rock-solid truth. I refer to the saying: "Clothing makes the man"". Your clothing is your shining armor, that which you choose to wear to go out and slay your dragons. It also broadcasts to the world how you feel about yourself. More accurately, how much respect you have for yourself.

Secondly, I found that fit is far more important that cost. If your budget is tight, you can do just fine with modestly-priced clothing as long as it's neat and fits well. Never wear baggy stuff, nor extremely tight stuff. I have found that most women respond to the overall presentation, not so much to the cost of your clothing. Of course there are exceptions, but what are those women worth to us? Exactly.

Thirdly, shoes. Clean shoes are truly the key to the kingdom. A lit of men rebel against this assertion, but let me tell you guys, you can take this to the bank. The first thing she will look at after your face is your shoes. Women are obsessed with shoes, and they WILL judge you on them. She will read a world of speculation about you based on your shoes. Again, expensive shoes are not required for you guys who are on a budget. Just clean and in good shape causes most women to check off that box for you.

Presentation makes all the difference in the world when it comes to attracting women. Lots of men think you need expensive, top of the line clothing to impress women, but this is absolutely false. It is SOOOOO easy to rise above the competition by dressing neatly coupled with decent social calibration.

"Clothing makes the man". That phrase has been in use in our culture since the 1500s when Erasmus wrote this as: “Vestis virum facit." I would contend that clothing is the analogue to makeup with women.

 

[Lookatu]

I need to get this of my chest.. you are by far my least favorite person on this forum. I feel you are just a troll. Not once have I seen you contribute to anything. You seem to limit yourself to judging other people, without offering a solution to their problems or questions. Always talking down on people from your high horse.

Man, pvssies like you really need to speak up and tell us what's on your mind. You need to be more direct and tell it like it is. Grow a bigger pair boy... [sarcasm]

 

[Lookatu]

If you search I have a real life picture thread with better pictures of me, one of them you can even see a little bit of a d*ck print.. since you like rating guys looks. Might as well get a full scope of things.

Broke a$$ boy..

Bro, you fell right into his trap. This dude is good at getting veteran members to qualify themselves to him. You don't owe him jack squat and it's easy for anyone to hide behind a keyboard talking about other people's mugs. We don't even know what dude looks like.

To be fair, he's got some good points here and there but I think the nature of his personality might rub people the wrong way though.

 

[9-3enthusiast]

But seriously, nice cars attract......dudes. If that's your preference, have at it.

I've found that as far as cars go, a nice car CAN help....
So long as it's not a banger/scrapper/shed/etc.... doesn't need to be particularly expensive/flashy or whatever.
Far more than the make and model, the key is that it's kept clean and tidy - I was even told by a woman that "If your car had been manky, there's no way I would have set foot in your house"

 

[Bigpapa]

I've found that as far as cars go, a nice car CAN help....
So long as it's not a banger/scrapper/shed/etc.... doesn't need to be particularly expensive/flashy or whatever.
The key is that it is kept clean and tidy - I was even told by a woman that "If your car had been manky, there's no way I would have set foot in your house"

if you buy expensive toys , you should buy them because you like them , not because you think that you will f8ck girls because you have that toy

in the first example is the correct mindset , in the 2nd one you are needy and supplicating , which is bad

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Wondering, how important are a man's clothes to a woman?

I've never ever been big clothes guy. I dress sloppily and shop for new clothes every 3 years. Clothes have never ever got me the hot girl. My words and actions have got the girl faster than anything I'm wearing.

I got relatives that buy $3,500 - $5,000 suits. They dress impeccably and shop at the most expensive places. I shop at the Gap and Walmart. I have an expensive car, but I won't spend anything over $30 on clothes. I really don't think clothes matter. A man's words, height, and hair are the most important.

Thoughts?

Clothes matter a ton mate. Not to say you are wrong about height, and hair, but women will make up their minds within the first 10 seconds of meeting you. Clothes aka style, along with solid shoes, nice hair (if you have any), grooming, nails, smile (teeth), are all things a woman will notice RIGHT AWAY. Words/actions are noticed shortly thereafter.

Given that you have an expensive car, it'd be wise to rethink your budgeting. Spending more on a car than on yourself is far from ideal. And you don't need to buy expensive brands to look good. You just have to combine well, get the proper sizes, and above all wear your clothes with confidence and "swag".

Modern Man Advice

 

[MoMoses]

Man, pvssies like you really need to speak up and tell us what's on your mind. You need to be more direct and tell it like it is. Grow a bigger pair boy... [sarcasm]

You too? Really? I'm surprised by this. Your posts gave me the impression that you were a cool dude. Anyway, take care. You give good advice to people. Keep that up.

 

[Lookatu]

You too? Really? I'm surprised by this. Your posts gave me the impression that you were a cool dude. Anyway, take care. You give good advice to people. Keep that up.

My apologies if you didn't understand American sarcasm, considering you are from Belgium.
I just meant that I'm glad you speak your mind and stand up for what you believe and think. Sarcasm reverses that as humor but obviously you didn't understand it. I think a lot of members here will agree with you.

No offense meant and it was clearly intended to be Friday humor.

 

[Lookatu]

I'm leaving this forum. Too many guys here think they are alpha males when in fact a true alpha respects other people and does not need to attack them or belittle them.

Dude, stick around. There are always going to be a few bad apples but just from my time here, most of the members here are good and respectful IMO. There's just been some newbies lately that may not sit well with others.

You've made some good contributions and should continue to do so regardless if anyone rubs you the wrong way.

 

[9-3enthusiast]

You too? Really? I'm surprised by this. Your posts gave me the impression that you were a cool dude. Anyway, take care. You give good advice to people. Keep that up.

Mo - The way I read Lookatu's post - it looks as if he was agreeing with you (notice the '/sarcasm' comment at the end of his post)
He appears to be pointing out that you DID say what you feel, and had the balls to voice your opinion.

edited to add:
I type too slow LOL - Lookatu has already explained - LOL