How I Slept With an Aspiring Import Model and Her Sister (Part I)

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FR: How I slept with an Aspiring Import Model and Her Sister (Part I)​


Background


The woman in question is also a club promoter. I have noticed her the last several weeks but have not had a chance to approach her. She typically has a big entourage and a good situation never arose.

This, in and of itself, highlights an important point. The '3 Second Rule' that so many are fond of is simply a means to get past the sticking point of approach anxiety. That's it. Once you’re past it, the optimal response in most situations is to wait until the right moment.

At the same time, I knew I would be seeing this woman again. If you won't, you need to work with what is available.

Beginning of the Night

Poise is visiting. We head downtown earlier then we typically might. I have not seen him in a while and we have some catching up to do.

Poise refers to himself as a "drinkologist." Simply put, he possesses a vast knowledge about alcoholic drinks. We arrive and the place is still pretty empty, so, we head to the VIP room and Poise introduces me to some exotic mixed drinks.

We spend the next hour having a good time amongst ourselves. No thoughts of women or sarging. We're two friends having a good time. The party is with us.

We actually get opened up by two girls. Her opener? "Are you a model?" In response to a lame typical guy opener, I respond with a lame typical girl response.

Ex: "Can you buy me a drink?"

She obliges, and we talk with these girls for a few minutes. My frame is, "These girls are trying to win me over." It meshes very well with social reality.

Poise and I next decide to look around the venue. Low and behold, I see the central target of this FR: HBImport. She's only with one girl and sitting at the bar.

First Contact


Ex: "Did you MySpace me?"
HBImport: "Huh?"
Ex: "I received a strange friend request today and the girl looked like you."
HBImport: "Wasn't me."
Ex: "Oh...ok. Well, my name is....."

I shift gears and begin to talk to the girl that is with her. Poise, meanwhile, is intermittently speaking to HBImport and a cute bartender.

It turns out the other girl is HBImport’s older sister. I immediately note a few things about these two: HBImport is the more attractive sister and clearly the social butterfly. HBSister is attractive as well, but more reserved, less confident, and likely used to stepping aside for HBImport.


As the conversations merge a 'problem' arises. HBSister is giving me hardcore indicators of interest. What's more, HBImport is attempting to 'wingman' for her sister and play matchmaker.

Isolating HBSister

At this point I know that going for HBImport will do little good. They have girl coded me as belonging to HBSister. Most guys at this point would do one of two things. They would assume that their chances with HBImport have significantly dropped and concentrate on HBSister. Or, they would continue to pursue HBImport and lose them both.

Me? I know HBImport is mine. In fact, so is HBSister. Remember when I originally profiled the relationship of these two? HBImport is used to being in first. Best way to use this? What if it's conveyed that HBSister got a man that she can't have? Funny how this works. Originally, HBImport had no real interest in me. It's why she had no problem pawning me off to HBSister. Inside of a week she will be chasing me.

I take HBSister to the VIP room. During the interaction with HBSister I find out as much as I can about both her and HBImport. We mutually build rapport and physically escalate. At this point, I was not thinking about taking her home that night because logistics were bad. I arrange for a meeting the next day.

Late Night Diner

Poise and I reconvene. He has apparently had an excellent night as well. We head to a late night diner for some food. No sooner do we sit down I receive a text message from HBSister:

HBSister: Can you come pick me up?
Ex: Where?
HBSister: We are just leaving the club.

I order my food and tell Poise that I will be back before it arrives. Being the gentlemen that I am I also order a sampler platter incase HBSister is hungry.

It takes some time to find her. We end up meeting in a parking lot halfway between the club and where HBImport lives. HBImport is driving, and when I pull into the parking lot out jumps HBSister.

I unfortunately did not keep my promise as I was not back before the food arrived. I find Poise and three plates of food waiting for us.

HBSister is very touchy feely with me. She is going as far as to try and feed me. I'm actually a little bit disturbed by the way she is acting. Poise runs most of the conversation. This is another subtle point. It’s much easier to brag about your friend then it is about yourself.

That Night

Earlier in the night I mentioned bad logistics. I had figured it would be troublesome for her to leave with two guys she met that night. Furthermore, I did not want to bounce her and HBImport together. Apparently these were all moot considerations. Poise, HBSister and I head back to my house.

I show Poise to the guest bedroom and I bring HBSister to mine.

We didn't sleep together that night. HBSister has earmarked me as boyfriend material and is worried about looking promiscuous. We make out, talk, and fall asleep.

The Morning

HBSister and I do, however, have sex in the morning. Why did her opinion change? Because my worldview is, "Sex is a naturally occurring phenomenon and I don't judge women for having it." As we talked and fell into a deeper state of rapport my perspective became evident to her.

Afterwards, I drive her home.

Epilogue of Part I

I'll end the continued saga here and put up Part II in the next few days. In that part I show how I compelled HBImport to chase and seduce me.
 

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Good read. I like your frame.
 

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another "model" dating forum member. i can't believe you spend so much time working on total bs. go get real lives. "import" models to america are on average about 16 years of age. none of them are aspiring because they could never get a work visa to enter the usa if they didn't already have something to do. many legit girls miss chances in the usa because visas are not secured on time. they don't go to cleveland (come to think of it, who the hell goes to cleveland?). nyc is where they almost always end up so that they can work on their book with all the gay fashion photogs who are in that area. fashion photogs control the business.

the main times they show up in america are during the two fashion weeks (september and early feb.), and in the summer when they have more time because they don't have school. 95% are loners who are terribly shy with low self-esteem (imagine being negged by everyone in your business. rejection is a way of life. plus, most come from countries where pretty girls are common and NOBODY compliments anybody on anything).

p.s. pretty much the same group of guys in the business get their pick of girls. the closest most of the girls get to celebs is if and when they get a decent show in milan, paris, or nyc. most flame out before they are 17 years of age and end up getting married to some old guy or going back to school. when they are in america they tend to wear dark glasses so that they don't make eye contact with the horniest guys on earth (american men). they avoid the metro in nyc because of the horny guys. in milan they take it because italian guys are bunnies compared to american men. the majority today come from suburbs that look like the ones at 2:08 (the first two minutes is of swedish suburbs which are a bit different than eastern baltic soviet style suburbs which you start to see at the 2:08 mark). most of the major agencies in nyc make trips once or twice a year to visit local mother agencies in prime countries. the ride from the airport to the nice town center is paved with roads like you see at 2:08.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=vzqftUsZJQQ&feature=related
 

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lol what is this a story book.....lol nice way being creative, but maybe you should keep "Sarging" and less narrating lol.
 

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aldaris said:
another "model" dating forum member. i can't believe you spend so much time working on total bs. go get real lives.
Are you dense or trying to be funny? Import models as in the girls you see at foreign car shows. I've never heard the term "import model" applied to anything but that, and the way you're using it is quite strange.

I've dated, slept with, and continue to be friends with several models. Likely more than a guy who has nothing better to do than bring negativity to the internet...


P.S I'll be at Fashion Week. It's actually the first of May, not September or February as you said. I'll go ahead and assume they changed the dates and forgot to inform you. Lol. I'll be with several female friends who are trying to make contacts. Since you seem to be part of the industry, we should make arrangements beforehand so we can say, 'hi'. Always glad to meet new friends. I mean that sincerely and am not being sarcastic. I know it's sometimes hard to tell on the internet. But...let me know.

j0n024 said:
lol what is this a story book.....lol nice way being creative, but maybe you should keep "Sarging" and less narrating lol.
Was that an AMOG? Lol.
 
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Existential said:
Are you dense or trying to be funny? Import models as in the girls you see at foreign car shows. I've never heard the term "import model" applied to anything but that, and the way you're using it is quite strange.

I've dated, slept with, and continue to be friends with several models. Likely more than a guy who has nothing better to do than bring negativity to the internet...

P.S I'll be at Fashion Week. It's actually the first of May, not September or February as you said. I'll go ahead and assume they changed the dates and forgot to inform you. Lol. I'll be with several female friends who are trying to make contacts. Since you seem to be part of the industry, we should make arrangements beforehand so we can say, 'hi'. Always glad to meet new friends. I mean that sincerely and am not being sarcastic. I know it's sometimes hard to tell on the internet. But...let me know.

Was that an AMOG? Lol.
No, aldaris is giving you a reality check, and he's been very informative and polite about it. Very well put, aldaris.

Your post, Existential, is typical of guys who need to show off because they lack self esteem, and you fall prey to this "3 second rule" and "gaming" rubbish. What you have happening to you is nothing special, but you tell it to us as if it were so special because your ego demands it . . . get the picture?
 
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OP; post some pics of these girls I want to see what you are bragging about.

I have banged some hotties myself, sure they were aspiring models too :whistle:
 

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darwinian_sympathiser said:
No, aldaris is giving you a reality check, and he's been very informative and polite about it. Very well put, aldaris.
Reality check? Seriously? He didn't know what the term 'import model' meant. Are you honestly suggesting that what he wrote about is the commonly accepted definition of 'import model'? If it is, and other people here agree with you two, then I'll apologize for mislabeling the thread. That's easy enough.

Informative? He didn't post the right week for fashion week.

I have nothing against Aldaris. It took me several minutes to even figure out what he was talking about because he so badly misinterpreted the term, "import model."

I have nothing against you, either. No need to be hostile.

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darwinian_sympathiser said:
....you fall prey to this "3 second rule".....
Existential said:
This, in and of itself, highlights an important point. The '3 Second Rule' that so many are fond of is simply a means to get past the sticking point of approach anxiety. That's it. Once you’re past it, the optimal response in most situations is to wait until the right moment.
How in anyway did I "fall prey to the 3 second rule"? I was pointing out that it has a very limited usage. I won't be responding to you again unless you either a.) reconcile the two above quotes or b.) admit that you wrote in haste. Anyone with a bit of intelligence can see they don't mesh and will realize that when I don't respond to you anymore in the future it is because you made an accusation and then didn't back it up...


Anyway, I didn't come here to argue. Some of you have a lot of pent up anger and frustration. If you don't like my post then don't respond or block me. It's as easy as that.
 

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im actually from cleveland as well.. not necessarily looking for wingman, but curious on where my fellow brothers hang out..... ?
 

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DavenJuan said:
im actually from cleveland as well.. not necessarily looking for wingman, but curious on where my fellow brothers hang out..... ?
I'm in DT Cleveland once a month or so. Velvet Dog, Blind Pig, Traffic, Map Room, and Anatomy would be most usual.

Also, Coventry, and Legacy Village in Beachwood have proven to be successful. A bit up north Bumpers and Avenue can be good.

It depends on the age range and 'quality' of girl you are looking for as well as the type of crowd and the night you are going out.
 

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mercury is a decent place with attractive women. i myself also spend a lot of time at velvet dog, blind ping. not so much traffic.

my gfs sister works at maproom, i stay away from that place
 

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The Op claims to have gotten his original target attracted and chasing him. I didn't get that from reading the post. Did I miss something?
 

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Existential said:
Are you dense or trying to be funny? Import models as in the girls you see at foreign car shows. I've never heard the term "import model" applied to anything but that, and the way you're using it is quite strange.

I've dated, slept with, and continue to be friends with several models. Likely more than a guy who has nothing better to do than bring negativity to the internet...


P.S I'll be at Fashion Week. It's actually the first of May, not September or February as you said. I'll go ahead and assume they changed the dates and forgot to inform you. Lol. I'll be with several female friends who are trying to make contacts. Since you seem to be part of the industry, we should make arrangements beforehand so we can say, 'hi'. Always glad to meet new friends. I mean that sincerely and am not being sarcastic. I know it's sometimes hard to tell on the internet. But...let me know.



Was that an AMOG? Lol.

first of may? no, fashion weeks are in sept. and feb. for women fashions. haut-couture is only a paris thing and that is a bit earlier.
http://www.mbfashionweek.com/newyork/spring2008/schedule/
http://www.mbfashionweek.com/newyork/fall2008/schedule/
see, it is sept. for s/s season. and feb. for f/w. nyc usually kicks things off. you are full of ****.
girls don't go to fashion weeks to make contacts. it works like this. a mother agent discovers the girl and promotes her to agencies in the big markets. this includes of course nyc, milan, and paris. london, barcelona/madrid, hamburg, athens, tokyo, and vienna also have some decent model management firms. so, lots of girls have 7 or 8 agencies but they always only have 1 mother agent. mother agents do not find girls work. they simply act as a buffer between her and the bigger agencies. if a girl has problems she will always call her mother agency. the bigger agencies don't have time to hear the sob story of some 15 year old.

lets go on. one of the regional (big market) agencies will contact the mother agency and let them know if the girl is good to go for castings. then it is up to the girl herself. few girls do milan, paris, and nyc in one season. they just can't miss that much school.

import models as you call them would NEVER do real fashion. they are glorified strippers and prostitutes. i am sorry if i am not with it when it comes to trailer park terminology. some of us don't watch nascar and go to import car shows.
 

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Aldaris, I thought you were referring to the fashion week in Cleveland.

http://www.fashionweekcleveland.com/


Anyway, I was using a common term that everyone here understood except for you. I just did a google search on 'import model' and not one link came up with anything to do with what you're talking about. I would love to see any sort of information on 'import model' and it referring to girls that are 'imported.' It sounds like a silly idea to me. I'm not saying you're lying, but, I couldn't find anything. Perhaps someone else can...or perhaps even say, "Yes, when I saw the term 'import model', I thought the same thing that Aldaris did." Can someone around here say that?

I wasn't talking about fashion in the first place. You're becoming defensive over if, "import models as you call them would NEVER do real fashion. they are glorified strippers and prostitutes. i am sorry if i am not with it when it comes to trailer park terminology. some of us don't watch nascar and go to import car shows."

Seriously...who cares? You misinterpreted a term. I misinterpreted your response about fashion. And, for the record, I'm not saying that you weren't clear, I reread your original reply and I know you weren't referring to Cleveland. That was my mistake.
 

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stop hating on the OP, it's a solid FR and the calibration / attn to logistics is on point

an import model is any wannabe model with a semi-pro looking portfolio and access to myspace. most of the girls are in college, will never know anything about your industry, and are just breaking out of their shell for the first time. and it grew out of the Asian scene here in LA in the 90's with Mainstream Productions, not freakin NASCAR. NASCAR doesn't have dropped civics
 
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