How Exactly Did we Get to this point?

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
 

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Yeah social media is one aspect of it. But the main issue is women today have more power, more choices and men do not know how to act or be a man anymore. And the average bloke sinks into misery and desperation.

Women now have thousands to choose from thanks to online dating, and the slightest problem, say something slightly wrong then they are onto the next guy.

And the problem is many of these guys don't have the experience to know what women are all about. They don't care about you, they only care about what they can get from you. So they keep being desperate and fall time and time again, which gives these women even more validation. Its a vicious cycle.

How do we fix it? We can't. There are too many idiots out there. All we can do is look after ourselves and try and teach others if they want to learn. Marriage and births are falling, our western civilization will collapse. Its the way things work, its like fixing a road intersection, they wait until someone dies before they do anything about it. But then its too late.
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
This is a very valid and important observation that has been shared by many here in recent months.

My analysis of the trajectory of this worrying trend shows a very gloomy picture ahead. Look, the problem you see now is only going to get worse in the coming years if no corrective action is taken. Why do i say this?

Thirst levels in men are spiking to the point where even Jabbas are in extremely high demand. You do know what happens when demand rises higher than supply. It becomes survival of the fittest, and the weak can resort to force and violence to attain what they cant acquire in open competition. Sexual frustration will explode and drive up rape cases over the next 10years, unless the tide turns somehow.
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
Why are you complaining? Every dude trying to get at them is one less that you have to worry about if you are looking for good looking women. Clearly they have zero confidence in themselves.
 

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I think there is some projection going on. You assume that all men like skinny women. There are literally millions of guys out there who are actually attracted to fat women. Just like there are guys who like to be led around on a leash or dressed up in leather suits with zippers on their mouth. I don't get it, but whatever.

The internet has just created the opportunities for these men to simp for the fatties they find attractive. If these same guys are also attracted to skinny sexy women then they are going to simp for them as well. There is something broken in the mind of a simp though thinking that they can buy attraction, that may be the main failing.

As to how we got here? literally everything in society has led us here, and we fix it by allowing the system to implode and be reborn as something functional. Progress has literally outrun the human race's ability to adapt.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Frame equals power, you bang her but doesn't let her think she's some special sh1t in this world
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
Perhaps it's not as bad as we think and we are suffering from selective reporting and the internet? Hopefully...
 

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I love how some on here have these long, drawn out, analytical conversations about simple stuff like human attraction
Doesn't doing that overly analytical analysis about human interaction make for a non attractive mindset?
 

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Doesn't doing that overly analytical analysis about human interaction make for a non attractive mindset?
Yes and no.

Its important to discuss and make people aware so decisions and strikes can be made. Marriage strike, no porn strike, get off social media strike.

Personal standards can be admitted and a great sense of responsibility comes down on your shoulders when one realises one has got to selfdevelop and self improve to attract what they like best.
 

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Weak guys need to quit supplicating and empowering women. That's what has happened gradually over time. And now that women are in charge of a lot of things, there's even more subtle brainwashing going on in society everywhere if you're not blind to it.

I mean fvck, you got 250lb muscular dudes on the football field wearing pink for these b1tches causes. You got girls that are allowed to join the marines that can't even carry a fellow wounded soldier out of harms way. You got girls tainting the boy scouts group and telling them how to run things.

Men everywhere needs to stand steadfast and united and grow a pair and learn to say no collectively, enough is enough. This is the main problem why we can't succeed like feminism has. Women know how to stand together and remain steadfast and keep going until they get it their way. They don't need d1ck like we need pvssy. That's always been our Kryptonite. My $.02
 

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Then here's the solution: don't use the internet, apps or social media to get women. Instead learn to cold approach them IN PERSON (preferably direct). By doing this, you'll immediately stand out from all other guys, since so few guys have the ability or courage to do cold approach face to face in this generation.

Remember, the fishing is always best where the fewest go. Why make it harder for yourself by competing for girls' attention online when you can cold approach them any time, any place with literally NO competition?

And even though society may have changed dramatically, at the core women are still the same - they're programmed in their DNA to want a real man, and still get turned on by the same principles of attraction that worked in previous generations.

So here's the solution: be that real man, be the one who dares approach them in real life, and don't be a pussified snowflake like the vast majority of young guys these days. Be that man who is not afraid to put a woman in her place verbally if she disrespects you. Be willing to walk away. Fvck her good and proper in the bedroom (or in whatever location you choose!). Be bold, take risks. Have a passion and purpose in life, have a positive outlook and mindset, have your life together etc.

The fact that guys are so weak and have no game can work IN YOUR FAVOUR because you are one of the rare few who are different, one who is still a real man. Use that to your advantage and do not clutter your mind with negative and disempowering thoughts about 'how bad the state of dating is today' etc.
 

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How did we get to this point?

- Social Media, Dating Apps, etc.

-Too many children raised by divorced families.

-Hollywood shaming masculinity.

-Special work place programs that discriminate against men in order to promote women.

-Too many men grew up in urban areas.

-Decline of the family unit.

-Every kid gets a trophy mentality taught at a young age.

-Men offering less and less that women value.

-Women have more to offer than ever before.

-Man's inventions: the pill, lip filler, fake boobs, push up bra's.

-Women having multiple sexual partners is accepted.
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?
Dude, most guys doesn´t have a standard for their integrity and self-respect for themselves when hitting on chicks. They put their díck in anything as long as there is a hole to rub it at. The fact that the woman is a ugly fat walrus or a average looking/somewhat ugly isn´t something they care much about it seems.

The "average chick market" is also the most over crowded over competitive from my experience. Much easier to go after the less crowded hot chicks imo as the AFC are to scared to even try.

I seen this behavior so many times over and over again with people I know/known and in the clubs/bars etc.

As for myself I never want to touch anything that isn´t hot and sexy to look at and I never diverted from my standard of that path which I am quite happy about and that I have my self integrity still intact. You don´t want to wake up and get heart attack by having a whale there or worse. But most AFC´s don´t seem to care I guess, cuz a hole is still a hole...

However; I don´t think internet and related technologies has anything to do with it, it was like that pre-internet too, but it maybe have been a catalyst driver to put things on over drive I suppose?
 
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How did we get to this point?

- Social Media, Dating Apps, etc.

-Too many children raised by divorced families.

-Hollywood shaming masculinity.

-Special work place programs that discriminate against men in order to promote women.

-Too many men grew up in urban areas.

-Decline of the family unit.

-Every kid gets a trophy mentality taught at a young age.

-Men offering less and less that women value.

-Women have more to offer than ever before.

-Man's inventions: the pill, lip filler, fake boobs, push up bra's.

-Women having multiple sexual partners is accepted.
Do you allow the females you are dealing with to have other current romantic interests or sexual partners?
 

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Then here's the solution: don't use the internet, apps or social media to get women. Instead learn to cold approach them IN PERSON (preferably direct). By doing this, you'll immediately stand out from all other guys, since so few guys have the ability or courage to do cold approach face to face in this generation.

Remember, the fishing is always best where the fewest go. Why make it harder for yourself by competing for girls' attention online when you can cold approach them any time, any place with literally NO competition?

And even though society may have changed dramatically, at the core women are still the same - they're programmed in their DNA to want a real man, and still get turned on by the same principles of attraction that worked in previous generations.

So here's the solution: be that real man, be the one who dares approach them in real life, and don't be a pussified snowflake like the vast majority of young guys these days. Be that man who is not afraid to put a woman in her place verbally if she disrespects you. Be willing to walk away. Fvck her good and proper in the bedroom (or in whatever location you choose!). Be bold, take risks. Have a passion and purpose in life, have a positive outlook and mindset, have your life together etc.

The fact that guys are so weak and have no game can work IN YOUR FAVOUR because you are one of the rare few who are different, one who is still a real man. Use that to your advantage and do not clutter your mind with negative and disempowering thoughts about 'how bad the state of dating is today' etc.
Awesome!!!

This should be a thread on its own and pinned or put in DJ Bible.

Keep going
 

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Do you allow the females you are dealing with to have other current romantic interests or sexual partners?
Depends on where we are at in the relationship, how I feel about them, what my relationship goals are, etc. If they are just something I see as a good time, then they are free to do as they wish, as I will too. Most women that see you as a prize don't fuhk multiple men at once. If I am seeking something long term then I don't tolerate any of that. I usually let them show me what their desires/behaviors are, before I even show my cards.
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
You did not go to Indonesia yet?
 

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Reality tv shows like The Bachelor haven’t helped either. If the lady on tv can get 5 Chad’s holding rises then I can too!
 

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Where even women who look like Jabba the Hutt have thousands of Thirsty guys hitting them up. Has social media and the internet really made men more thirsty and desperate?

Why is the current dating market so heavily skewed? How much longer will this go on before something is done to fix all of this, because right now it is ridiculous.

A lot of social problems in young men today are caused by sexual frustration, this is not healthy
Social media is like giving heroin addicts an endless free supply.

Women are basically going on a binge of their favourite drug, which is male attention.

Obviously it damages them, particularly as the supply dries up as they age.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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