i've encountered this a number of times.. i'll make an approach in say a coffee place and her immediate perogative is to friend-zone you or just go on and on about her life her friends etc.. (example her talking about other guys who are just friends and 'we're like brother and sister and talk about everything' and you're thinking 'great, did i ask you about any of this?') generally go on and on.. i usually counter with being more flirtatious and suggestive being c+f to establish i'm sexually interested in her.. not as friends.. i also try to neg and kino more than usual and disqualify. however i still find i end up being friend zoned or she'll rebuff my date suggestion when i contact with a non counter offer. is there any ways to improve this? (like how important is it i hit the ground running when i'm going through the motions of picking her up and the phases etc)
i find they try to run the conversation almost immediately and i'm forced to be rude and intterupt her and change the direction of the convo into what i want to talk about, not hers.. which is rude, but it's the only way to stop them talking about friend-zone BS.
i find they try to run the conversation almost immediately and i'm forced to be rude and intterupt her and change the direction of the convo into what i want to talk about, not hers.. which is rude, but it's the only way to stop them talking about friend-zone BS.