How do you TRUST women?

[DjDreamer]

Well aequitus, after defending marriage with a passion in this topic Albanianpimp just showed you how screwed up marriage is. Why didn't the wife leave? Why didn't the abusive husband leave? They all were in love with the absurdity of parting only at death...

 

[Climax]

what planet do you come from?!?!?

No offence to AlbanianPimp or to ANY religions etc that do this, but seriously... FORCING 2 ppl to get married, or getting married out of "respect" and not out of "LOVE" is ASKING for that kind of marrige to happen!

The case that WE are talking about in this post is where the 2 get married because they LOVE eachother and they WANT to be togeather! You are mixing to different topics here!

DjDreamer said:

They all were in love with the absurdity of parting only at death...

That doesnt help if they are not in love with eachother, now does it? And the reason that they never left eachother was/is because of the "respect" that the relationship was BASED on.

*sigh*

 

[Aussiedude]

Re: hhhmmmmmm trust... what a word!

Originally posted by aequitas


And for all tose who just say "NEXT her" ... thats the wrong attitude to have... In my eye's thats just like saying " run away from your problems and dont even bother trying" ... .

Agreed aequitas. I have nexted people in the past very easily - maybe to early. I think there is an article here about nexting to soon. For me the jury is still out on this one. Thanks all for the replies

 

[Aussiedude]

Wow - thanks for all the replies everyone.

Originally posted by ToughGuy


Infact you don't trust any body blindly,
What you do is "EVALUATE" and "TEST".

And make her go through rigorous testing of trust and check if she is flexible. she is sweet in tough times.

And how she reacts when you are in problem in trouble, does she stays by you in you thick and thin.

Good advice - I think you have to be on your toes

 

[Lysol]

i would NEVER fully trust a woman. i would also NEVER show how jealous i actually am! lol

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by Aussiedude
After reading a lot of stuff on this site and my own experiences lead me to wonder how you guys trust women at all?

In my observation:
a)there is always another guy
b)even if a woman has VERY high IL - it can dissapear very quickly and you can get dumped

If you are the kind of guy like me looking more for a LTR how do you trust any women?

Everybody only talks about the bad seeds here - never the good ones, because this forum is plagued with bitter guys. There are definitely trustworthy women out there - you just have to find them and get them.

 

[dietzcoi]

Well Metal Fortess, you are correct, but if you have secret method of finding the 10% who are not fukked up, please post it on here.

Aequitas is becoming defender of Chumpdom on this site. Oh well, I guess we need one of those here too

Dietzcoi

 

[MetalFortress]

Originally posted by dietzcoi
Well Metal Fortess, you are correct, but if you have secret method of finding the 10% who are not fukked up, please post it on here.

Aequitas is becoming defender of Chumpdom on this site. Oh well, I guess we need one of those here too

Dietzcoi

It's no secret if I'm 20 and can do it. The only thing holding you back is your bitterness verging on insanity.

 

[J.C.]

It does NOT matter if she loves you or not. She will be faithful to you until
a) she meets someone better for her (and if she likes a macho jerk that beats her, then that's what's better for her)

b) she is ovulating and meets someone hotter than you and she thinks she won't get caught. (although aids may catch her anyway)

For a) you treat her right, for b) you do dna tests for 'your baby' and **** her with condoms if you dont want another toddler.

There will always be someone better than you so there is always the possibility that she will leave you.
It's like having a car accident. You can never be sure some truck doesn't run you over on the sidewalk.
However, you accept this risk, keep your eyes open and therefore the chance remains very slim that it will happen.

 

[MRomeo99]

Everybody only talks about the bad seeds here - never the good ones, because this forum is plagued with bitter guys. There are definitely trustworthy women out there - you just have to find them and get them.

You know the funny part is I don't think you can really achieve the success you want with women, until you leave all theat sh1t behind you. If you don't truly love women, trust them, appreciate them, etc. You will never get the kind of success you crave.

People are a lot more in tune with each other than you might think. If you think you can harbor this bitterness and hatred towards women in your heart and not have people notice, you are sadly mistaken. You get what you expect, if you expect women to be b1tches and to treat you like sh1t, guess what, that's what you'll get.

I think you find true success when you let all that sh1t go, and you learn that people(not just women) are really interesting and each person has a seed of beauty in them just waiting for you to notice.

I suggest you watch Don Juan De Marco again, listen to what he says, and realize why he gets the success he wants. He gets it because he really loves women, he loves everything about them. All this bullsh1t talk about attention wh0res, b1tches, sluts and whatever else, is just so much bullsh1t.

For my part, I choose to trust women(actually everyone) until they prove incapable of my trust. I'm still friends with most of the women I have dated. I have been hurt as we all have. But for the most part the women I have dated have lived up to the trust I have placed in them. In some cases better than I myself have lived up to that level of trust. Generally speaking most people are decent and honest. They are more likely to uphold your trust if you give it willingly without strings attached. If they break it, then they break it. It's not the end of the world. However most people will do quite a bit to try to uphold a trust that they value.

However that is just this man's opinion, and I'm open to being wrong.

Romeo

 

[MRomeo99]

It does NOT matter if she loves you or not. She will be faithful to you until
a) she meets someone better for her (and if she likes a macho jerk that beats her, then that's what's better for her)

b) she is ovulating and meets someone hotter than you and she thinks she won't get caught. (although aids may catch her anyway)

For a) you treat her right, for b) you do dna tests for 'your baby' and **** her with condoms if you dont want another toddler.

There will always be someone better than you so there is always the possibility that she will leave you.
It's like having a car accident. You can never be sure some truck doesn't run you over on the sidewalk.
However, you accept this risk, keep your eyes open and therefore the chance remains very slim that it will happen.

Perfect example. I bet you haven't had much success with women have you?

There will always be someone better than you????? WTF? What the hell are you talking about. When I'm dating a woman, I know that I'm the best thing in her life. Don't you?

-Romeo

 

[squirrels]

Re: what planet do you come from?!?!?

Originally posted by aequitas
The case that WE are talking about in this post is where the 2 get married because they LOVE eachother and they WANT to be togeather! You are mixing to different topics here!

Love is a sh!tty reason to get married. And that's why so many relationships fail.

You can be in love with a person and, in this day and age, live with them the rest of your LIFE without getting married. The ONLY reason to get married, in my opinion, is because you want to have children and start a family. If you're getting married for LOVE, it means you're so into this person that you are trying to FORCE them into a commitment with a traditional bond. Which is BS.

BTW...never trust ANYTHING that bleeds for 3 days and doesn't die.

 

[Lysol]

i would NEVER fully trust ANY woman! ive seen to many times that a woman, ranging from 'sweet and innocent' to married with childeren go off and cheat. ANY woman will cheat IF the right guy comes along! Now i think what this boils down to is do you have 'what it takes' to keep her interested in you so that it DOES NOT happen. Im a firm believer in keeping a woman 'on her toes' and that she should actually be worrying about me! the relationship start to go downhill once she figures out that your just plain BORING.

Now i will applaud those that have their woman thinking about them 24/7. You obviously are doing things right to keep your relationship INTERESTING. It should always be like this, and i would not take it for granted! Once you start to 'slack off' in your relationship, she is definitely more vulnerable to cheating.

 

[Uncle FranKKK]

Originally posted by Aussiedude
After reading a lot of stuff on this site and my own experiences lead me to wonder how you guys trust women at all?

In my observation:
a)there is always another guy
b)even if a woman has VERY high IL - it can dissapear very quickly and you can get dumped

If you are the kind of guy like me looking more for a LTR how do you trust any women?

I don't have any idea. I don't trust them at all. Of course I'm coming off the worst divorce and marriage a man ever had, maybe I'm biased.

Not saying I'd never trust one, except my mom and my daughter, but she'd have to really prove herself for a long time consistently.

And I do not feel like I "need" to trust a woman, if it happens, great. If not, as long as I'm keeping Mr. Richard fed, I'll get by...


-Frank

 

[myfriendblu]

would you guys relax man!
my parents have been married 30 years and haven't even had a loud yellin match between the two of em. when my dad was in the hospital before my mom was at his bedside for days on end.

dude, it can work. just find the right one.

 

[G-Star]

I personally don't trust women as well ever since I experienced a really bad relationship

From what I see, women tend to say one thing and do the other. For example, if your woman starts talking about this new guy that she met and claims that she really hates him or something like, its usually the opposite. The more often she talks about the new guy with you, the more likely she's interested in him.

I could be wrong, but this is just what I see and experienced. Any comments are appreciated.

Yours faithfully,

G-Star

 

[Blue Phoenix]

Originally posted by Aussiedude
After reading a lot of stuff on this site and my own experiences lead me to wonder how you guys trust women at all?

In my observation:
a)there is always another guy
b)even if a woman has VERY high IL - it can dissapear very quickly and you can get dumped

If you are the kind of guy like me looking more for a LTR how do you trust any women?

"Trusting" is independent of the gender. It does depends on the person´s personality.

Look for this and you´ll reduce your "frustrations"!

 

[Aussiedude]

Re: Re: How do you TRUST women?

Originally posted by Blue Phoenix
"Trusting" is independent of the gender. It does depends on the person´s personality.

Look for this and you´ll reduce your "frustrations"!

Good advice. Thanks Blue Phoenix

 

[MoveYourAss...]

Originally posted by G-Star
I personally don't trust women as well ever since I experienced a really bad relationship
....
G-Star

Just wanted to add my 2c because there were SO FEW positive replies & so much bitterness. Maybe the others just didn't bother to answer, but I think it's a very good question, it's the question about the delicate balance of the Good Guy between nic guy and jerk.

G-Star: Not to be taken personal. A relationship consists of TWO people. So if your relationship was ****ty, why didn't you change it or leave it ? Most of us had experiences like that, life and learn,

I personally LOVE women. If they are spoiled bythes of disturbed psychos I learned more and more to not take it personal. Indeed, I rather pity them, in a (more and more) non-arrogant way.
Those women are like kids. The former may end stupid and bitter, when the outer shell gets older and they didn't listen to the men who critizised them.

Why waste your time and nerves with the immature/psycho ones? It's your own fault if you do. Get what is in your mutual interest (you may invoke the interest in her with the things you learn here) and move on.

The ones that are really good for your life in the long term are rare. So what, that's life. Keep your eyes open and ACT. Frustration will not gain you anything. Fycking aroung in hatred will only waste your time and energy.

Me too was lucky enough to have a real loving woman in my life, LTR, even as a bad case of AFC, and NOT experiencing what I consider love & good relationship in my family. I see this as an incredible luck. Trust us, there ARE the good ones.

It's like moving to a new city. You need to spend some time and failures in order to find the good restaurants. When you do, ENJOY the pleasure of a good meal. Untill then, eat when you're hungry, but keep a healthy diet.

Well, just my opinion.

MoveYourA$$... and your brain will follow

 

[J.C.]

Originally posted by MRomeo99
Perfect example. I bet you haven't had much success with women have you?

There will always be someone better than you????? WTF? What the hell are you talking about. When I'm dating a woman, I know that I'm the best thing in her life. Don't you?

-Romeo

Right then, yes you are. And she is too the best thing in your life. If at that point any of you had a better choice you would not be together.

Next week she may meet someone else and you could do that too.

I'm not worried about this. If she leaves, fine, I'll get another one.
The topic here however is TRUST. If you trust a woman will stand by you no matter what, forever, because you are the best, when she *does* leave you the only logical conclusion would be that it's her loss and she must be stupid.
This is where the misconcepton that women wise up, when they hit 30, comes from. It's just that they are running out of better options.