How do you feel about NOT having Kids?

[spiegel549]

I know some of you have kids already, some of you don't. To me I would love to meet a woman that doesn't want to have Kids, do these women exist?

Say you finally meet that one special girl, you settle down with her, you two have a blast together. Why not just spend the rest of your lives enjoying one another without bringing a Child into the equation? Especially with today being such a harsh time to be brought up in I don't think I would want to raise a Child with the way things are, and the way things are going.

For those of you who have Kids or are having Kids I don't mean any disrespect, but how do you guys feel about this? What is your preference on this??

 

[Zarky]

Hard to find b*tches who don't want kids. But it's possible. Be prepared for them to change their minds though. There are immense social and physiological pressures pushing women to replicate.

 

[Skalioppe]

Kids are your route to immortalisation : they carry your genetic and memorial legacy on. Also, stripping things back to fundamentals, they are the effectively the meaning of life. i.e. Meaning of life = to proliferate life.

Interestingly, societal stats suggest healthy, intelligent, sensible, moralistic, professional type people are choosing not to have kids or leave it too late to. Ironic as these are the people we really should be encouraging to have kids.

I probably fall into that category as I don't have kids and when I see the wonder children enrich in people's lives, I regret it a great deal.

 

[Mike32ct]

I like kids, but I don't really want to go there at this age.

Had I met the right person much earlier, sure.

 

[Wingedsig]

I know some of you have kids already, some of you don't. To me I would love to meet a woman that doesn't want to have Kids, do these women exist?

Say you finally meet that one special girl, you settle down with her, you two have a blast together. Why not just spend the rest of your lives enjoying one another without bringing a Child into the equation? Especially with today being such a harsh time to be brought up in I don't think I would want to raise a Child with the way things are, and the way things are going.

For those of you who have Kids or are having Kids I don't mean any disrespect, but how do you guys feel about this? What is your preference on this??

Dude.You are spot on.That's exactly the issue I am finding.I would not mind getting married but 95% of women want kids.Personally I have no want or need to raise children in a time when you can't send them to the movie theatre or school without wondering if they will get blasted.Personally, I would rather take my chick and go lay on a beach somehwhere on a whim instead of changing $hitty diapers.But for the most part, these women do not exist.Besides hardcore golddiggers and chicks that want green cards.

 

[PlayHer Man]

Kids are a pain in the azz and they suck your wallet dry. They also kill your independence either physically or financially (if not both) and you become somewhat of a slave to them.. unless you become a deadbeat dad.

Right now I'm not very interested in having kids. I have personal goals that are more important to me right now. I'm not done being selfish and I'm still enjoying my freedom.

In addition.. kids don't really appeal to me. I feel like I have to hold back around them and that causes a lot of strain. Of course.. its probably different when its MY kid vs. someone else's.

Under the right conditions I will have kids. Maybe once I achieve my personal goals, have lots of money / free time and have nothing else to do. Then I wouldn't mind passing on my wisdom to a son. I don't really want a daughter, but if it happens.. whatever.

We'll see what happens. I think remaining childless my entire life is a larger possibility for me than becoming a father. I'm already 28 and if I don't have a kid by 40 I don't think I should bother.

 

[Mike32ct]

I'm 37. Even if I met my dream woman tomorrow (not likely), figure a year of dating, a year engagement, wedding, trying, and a 9-mo pregnancy. I'd be 40 under the BEST case scenario.

The more realistic (hypothetical) scenario is hopefully meet someone in maybe three years if all goes well. Then, what? Have the kid when I'm 43?

But if I rush, I'll end up knocking up some psycho woman that hasn't been properly vetted to make sure she's long term partner and mother material. Plus in any of these scenarios, her age will likely be advanced too, adding in the birth defect risk.

Nah. Under the circumstances, I'm gonna pass.

 

[Burroughs]

I'm 37. Even if I met my dream woman tomorrow (not likely), figure a year of dating, a year engagement, wedding, trying, and a 9-mo pregnancy. I'd be 40 under the BEST case scenario.

thats really the insane part about the 'modern' world

for most of american history a financially stable man of age 35-50 could easily find a worthy girl of 16-20 to marry who would provide him with children and care for his home and be grateful for his wisdom and financial stability.

today such an idea is shamed

today a man of 35-50 is expected to entertain aged militant femcvnts whose wombs have long since become polluted...fvcking why?! :crackup:

how far we have regressed

 

[DonGorgon]

no kids for men cause women are crazy and kids are to expensive..

 

[Harry Wilmington]

I don't want kids - haven't desired to have any ever since I was a kid myself, lol. Hasn't affected my dating/sex life too much - I tell every girl I date I don't want kids in advance (including when I did online dating, I'd have "doesn't want kids" in my profile), and if they're not cool with it I just find someone else.

The thing is, most women will want kids, even the ones that say they're cool with not having them. But the bottom line is, you are the MAN, meaning you're the one leading the relationship. So, if you don't want kids and you make that clear from day one, it doesn't matter if she goes along with it in hopes of changing your mind later and then finds out she can't. You make sure to get all that stuff squared away before engagements and marriages come into the picture - better to find out it's not going to work out because she wants kids BEFORE the "I Do's" are said, 'cause divorce is a costly biznich.

The best way to do this is to just go ahead and get a vasectomy. A girl may think she can change your mind about kids, but it's harder for her to think that once you've neutered yourself (and yes, they can be reversible, but it's costly - a vasectomy ranges from 300 to 900 dollars, but a reversal is in the THOUSANDS). I'm planning to get mine before the year's out.

 

[Bushmaster]

I have a son, 12 y.o.

I wouldnt trade him for all of the best pvssy in the world.

That said, I go for said p while I am training him not to be the chump I was but that's a whole nother thread.

 

[Bushmaster]

I see that my reply above was off topic. The last two women i was with never had kids, both of brothers dont have kids...its very common in the gens x and y.

 

[evan12]

I know some of you have kids already, some of you don't. To me I would love to meet a woman that doesn't want to have Kids, do these women exist?

Say you finally meet that one special girl, you settle down with her, you two have a blast together. Why not just spend the rest of your lives enjoying one another without bringing a Child into the equation? Especially with today being such a harsh time to be brought up in I don't think I would want to raise a Child with the way things are, and the way things are going.

For those of you who have Kids or are having Kids I don't mean any disrespect, but how do you guys feel about this? What is your preference on this??

the offspring is your main purpose in life and the motivation that will keep you strong , without kids you are not going to pass your genes to next generation so why the hell your are living for ?
if you just live for a woman you will get bored with her because the main reason to have a woman is to give you kids not to by her gifts .

 

[NoShameInMyGame]

My dad had me when he was 40 years old. My dad had my brother when he was 44 years old.

If you put yourself on that time table, you're 26 and a young guy, and have plenty of time to figure it out.

There's always the option to adopt. And you could pick one who is like 6 years old and out of the diaper stage and **** like that.

 

[floydb25]

I wouldn't mind having kids, but can't trust anyone enough to have a stable, loving, permanent family with. People who grow up with separated and/or unavailable parents usually end up not so good in the head, and have several issues / lead reckless lifestyles. I used to hang out with them ALL the time, and if you look up all these various disorders that are around - childhood and parenting has a LOT to do with these problems.

As well, when things go sour and don't work out - there's usually a lot of resentment for the other party, and everything becomes a tool for power and revenge - including kids. Anything to "get back" at the other party, and people use each other all the time. Or just stop caring after a while. Plus, I'm not in any position right now to have any.

But, don't really see it happening. I'm very observant, attentive, social, and seen a lot of **** with people who got married and/or had kids. Or just dealings with other people; friends; relationships in general; etc.

'Tis a cruel world out there, and I have a very single-minded / loner mentality these days. Might get a dog some day.

 

[PlayHer Man]

the offspring is your main purpose in life and the motivation that will keep you strong , without kids you are not going to pass your genes to next generation so why the hell your are living for ?
if you just live for a woman you will get bored with her because the main reason to have a woman is to give you kids not to by her gifts .

There are many things you can accomplish in life that make a significant mark on the world which doesn't involve reproduction. You can start a business, invent something, cure a disease, make amazing music, write an amazing book, etc. There is more to life that spawning a bunch of mini-me's.

I find your post ignorant. I believe anyone who needs, not just wants, but NEEDS kids to give their lives meaning is weak. The desire to parent is largely a symptom of low self-esteem and having nothing important to do with your time.

I'll also add that many people have kids with an idea that one day there will be grand-kids and they will live with them and be taken care of.. just like they took care of their kids as infants. It does not work that way. Society does not allow an option with infants, you have to take care of them or be judged worthless scum. However, as an elderly person, if you live with your kids they will look at you every day and wonder if it’s time to put you away yet, and there is nothing wrong with that. Nobody wants to wipe their parents ass or clean their dentures.

 

[Burroughs]

Nobody wants to wipe their parents ass or clean their dentures.

Agreed

which renders the whole basis of 'family' null and void

human bonding no longer exists

everything is reduced to its most selfish, materialistic dimension from day one.

to western humans children are objects of the parents' ego driven materialism and their own parents are a useless liability to be placed in a nursing home at the earliest possible time.

what a sad bunch of deluded, ignorant, $hit-heads modern humanity has become eh

 

[VladPatton]

But...if 20 of us have boys, that's 20 more Don Juans in the world lol. I'd be a lunatic dad I just know it. Excuse me, Miss Crabtree, get my son the fųck away from those dolls!

 

[GotED?]

I have a 6 yr old son and had him in my early 30's - I must say he has turned my feelings upside down about 'love' and what it means to be a man and love a child - something you give from deep inside to another, meaning you are going beyond your own self-ish desires and needs to raise another life.

Sure, you are going to be tied down physically, mentally, emotionally, and even sexually (with your spouse/partner). But nobody said having a child is going to be a walk in the park, correct?


But having seen my 1st wife manipulate and using the leverage of me loving my son beyond all other things in life and thinking I would never leave the family structure because of it, she started to become a major b!tch at the end of our marriage and thought because of her 'assumption' of leverage with our child that she can abuse me and act like a feminist p!g.

I walked out on that marriage after she attempted to hit me while I was holding my 3yr old son in one arm. It doesn't get lower than that, doing it in front of the kid and while I am holding him.

Children are wonderful - BUT if your heart is NOT in it, don't even test the water if you don't have temperament and patience. However, women expoit men with our children often once a marriage starts to go sour.

Now I am 40 and looking back at all the crazies - sometimes I am coming to the conclusion that it is safer just to be alone because once you love something so deeply as your own child and have it separated from you, that is probably the next worst thing than having your child die before you.

With respect,

Exodus

 

[betheman]

I have a 6 yr old son and had him in my early 30's - I must say he has turned my feelings upside down about 'love' and what it means to be a man and love a child - something you give from deep inside to another, meaning you are going beyond your own self-ish desires and needs to raise another life...

Sure, you are going to be tied down physically, mentally, emotionally, and even sexually (with your spouse/partner). But nobody said having a child is going to be a walk in the park, correct?...
Children are wonderful - BUT if your heart is NOT in it, don't even test the water if you don't have temperament and patience. However, women expoit men with our children often once a marriage starts to go sour.

Now I am 40 and looking back at all the crazies - sometimes I am coming to the conclusion that it is safer just to be alone because once you love something so deeply as your own child and have it separated from you, that is probably the next worst thing than having your child die before you.

With respect,
Exodus

some great insight in that post^^

if your heart isnt in it, dont go anywhere near it, seriously. if you do you will be messing up one innocent life at least.
Ive got four kids, all a grown up, love them to the death, would I do it again? probably not.
I dont want my kids wiping my ar$e, putting my teeth in....I dont even want to be there for that myself!
the world is inreasingly horrible and uncertain, do you really want to bring your offspring into this life? yeah tiems have been tougher and people survice and do well, but I genuinely think times have changed for the worse and will continue to do so, roles have changed and in an increasingly feminised world, sons have it tougher than ever before, the traditional male roles are dissapearing, these are intrinsicly important to the development of men, society is moulding males into pu$$y worshipers and penalising them if they dont.
as for the chance of a woman separating you from your child, and its fairly easy for them to do this, that would be absolutely crushing, never happened to me but Ive seen some real ****Ty stunts pulled by so called loving women whose personalities did a 180 when things went south