how do you become successful?

[relentless]

Hi,

What does it take to be successful with women? I've read the bible and hundreds of threads, books and practice in the field everyday, but I haven't found a clear answer. Is it an aquired skill? What do I have to do to get good at this? I know it sounds dumb, and believe me I have lots of practice, but it just feels like I'm missing out on something? What did it take for you guys to get your level of success?

 

[buckwheat18]

I'm going to answer your questions to the best of my ability.

What does it take to be successful with women?

Looks and Personality- If they can compliment each other thats even better. But, I think personality plays a big role to be successful with women.

Is it an aquired skill?

No, you don't just aquire skill automatically.
Well, in some cases men naturally have it.
It generally takes practice and time.

What do I have to do to get good at this?

I hope this is a question you asked yourself before you posted here. You have to become who you want to be then and only then you will start to feel good at it. I don't know you very well but it sounds as though you have a hard time being you possibly? Make opportunitys to meet women, try a few cold approaches. I can't stress this enough Practice, Practice, Practice.

I cant really say i'm on a specific level of skill because i'm always learning new things. But i can tell you i'm alot more happy with myself these days. It beats being an AFC with no self astem at all.

 

[Interpol]

Originally posted by relentless

What does it take to be successful with women?

Be cool, don't suck.

 

[MackJr]

You have to define success first. Then practice the things necessary to get there.

For me, it was meeting a girl and getting laid relatively quickly in the relationship. The PUAs (pick-up artists) focus purely on getting laid on the spot. For some people, it's getting married, while for others it's having 2 women hanging off of each arm.

What I did was I read a lot of what was said on the boards and changed my behavior. I went and did practice runs on specific skills, like being able to react to someone positively when I first met them, and having confident eye contact.

I asked questions on the board. A lot of people here are helpful and a few aren't.

I did visualization too; I wrote 1 scene stories in which I'd meet someone who'd react to me in a specific way (angry, interested, bored), and the things I'd say to get her into a different mood. In fact, I think that method worked for me pretty well because it allowed me to backup in a situation and imagine it going better.

But it's all about skills development and you have to approach it that way.

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by relentless
Hi,

What does it take to be successful with women? I've read the bible and hundreds of threads, books and practice in the field everyday, but I haven't found a clear answer. Is it an aquired skill? What do I have to do to get good at this? I know it sounds dumb, and believe me I have lots of practice, but it just feels like I'm missing out on something? What did it take for you guys to get your level of success?

Your problem is that you don't have a clear goal. You don't know where to move.

You need to define what you want from women and then develop a plan.

"being successful" is just too broad

 

[So pimp its scary]

"You figure out what you want, and the price you'll have to pay. Then you pay that price."

 

[DJnomore]

Originally posted by relentless
Hi,

What does it take to be successful with women? I've read the bible and hundreds of threads, books and practice in the field everyday, but I haven't found a clear answer. Is it an aquired skill? What do I have to do to get good at this? I know it sounds dumb, and believe me I have lots of practice, but it just feels like I'm missing out on something? What did it take for you guys to get your level of success?

A lot of the guys here exadurate their level of success.

That being said short term success is confidence and grooming and a very small set of rules you have to learn.

Medium to long term success comes from being interesting and successful.


All the DJ stuff you can learn by going outside your peer group and flirting with girls you have no emotional attachment to. And then gently test the boundries of your actions. Flirt with a lot of girls using different strategies but ultimately be yourself.

If you can get HB1 and understand whats going on then HB2...HB5 at HB6-8 you get another set of girls with different rules. HB9-10 is a different set of rules again.

The rules are different in different catagories HB1-5 you can probably get to do anything you want. HB6-8 are the girl next door and offer the wides varience in personality imho. HB9-10 are actually very different on account of the AFC's not having the guts to flirt and the DJ/Jerks flirting all the time with them. Winning strategies that work wonders at HB9-10 don't work at HB6-8 so its all a matter of practice and tuning.

HB9-10 are often hypersexualized or very tame. This group has either caved from the pressure of guys flirting with them or they have taken control not a lot of middle ground. Because of this they are often very different from the HB6-8 and some guys do fine with HB9-10 and not so well with HB6-8.

Another source of exp is older women. Older HB10 who are now HB7 and like young guys still have the personality of HB10 burned in their minds.

good luck

 

[chicksrock]

you just gotta keep at it until you get successful!

 

[Elfynne]

Also keep in mind that every woman is different...you can't just throw them all into one basket. What pleases one woman might repulse the other. What catches one woman's attention may turn the other one away. This is normal, and it's the same way with men. What you need to do is keep trying your "tactics" on women who capture more than a passing fancy from you...and eventually there will be one who will like you right back. That, my friend, is the woman who is right for you.

 

[superpud]

The best thing that I can suggest is to first decide what kind of person you want to become. Do whatever it takes to become that person. Become friends with as many women as possible. Eventually, you'll find a woman that likes you. Even if you are not quite pleased with this woman, spend time with her anyway doing the things that please you (a lesson most men need to get). She'll either stay or leave. Evaluate your progress irregardless. If a woman starts blowing me off (in a bad way, lol) I'll purposely start a fight with her. She'll usually be brutally honest (which is what I want, anyway) and tell me why she's leaving. Then, and only then, can I (or anybody else) effectively evaluate whether I (or they) need to change something or not. Life is a series of lessons that must be learned, one way or another, in order to have a successful one.

 

[#1 P.I.M.P.]

I gonna give you from my perspective.

Your down cause you lak confidence, u lack it cause your insecure, about what? well for most guys I kow its because they think the prety guys cant see anything good in them or attractive, heck some think even the ugly ones. Well you need to get to the route of that. Wether it be you body your face your pimples, you don't have a Job, all these things can be fixed, start working. As a bodybuilder I believe If u wann win somthing, u gotta atually believe u can and visualized and see that goal ahead of u whatever it is, and after that once youve obsessed about it enough in your mind the actual act is just a completion of your inner self. I call it visual-training. Visualized taht hhot babe stittin on your lap, the car the money evrything, If you don't believe it how can anyone else.

-Peace-

 

[AlwaysExcel]

Originally posted by superpud
Evaluate your progress irregardless. If a woman starts blowing me off (in a bad way, lol) I'll purposely start a fight with her. She'll usually be brutally honest (which is what I want, anyway) and tell me why she's leaving. Then, and only then, can I (or anybody else) effectively evaluate whether I (or they) need to change something or not.

THANK YOU!!!! I have been having a crisis because it's very hard to evaluate the motivations behind a female's actions when there are so many possible interpretations and conflicting theories. And don't ask the woman because she'll usually BS or hasn't looked hard enough within herself to know the real reason why she flaked. How can one learn and get better in such an environment? Your technique seems like a good idea. I'll have to try that.

Do you start a fight about her blowing you off? Or about something else, like insulting her until she starts going off about things she hates about you?

 

[GirlCrazy]

What does it take to be successful with women?

Confidence, persistence and a good sense of humor.

As you gain experience it gets much easier.