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How do I increase the volume of women I meet?

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I honestly think I'm improving a lot, but I'm having trouble landing dates. And it's not because I'm failing at interactions, but rather the amount of women I've met over the last several months is very low.

The couple of "dates" I've gotten ended up being with girls with bfs. Not exactly the best to practice on.

I tried supplementing with online dating, but boy that was a mistake, it's basically even harder in the virtual world than real world. Tilts everything in the girl's favor.

I'm so busy. You may remember my previous posts how I'm so busy--I'm graduating med school soon, I have several other things going on outside of that in terms of career goals that don't exactly promote socializing with chicks. I missed out on a normal college experience so I missed that cesspool there.

Yeah, there's nurses, but right now they're the ones giving me orders, though that will change soon.

I can go out with a few friends to bar, problem is that my relationship with them is I'm the AFC one for the most part (both my friends are pretty alpha).
 

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Siragoos said:
I can go out with a few friends to bar, problem is that my relationship with them is I'm the AFC one for the most part (both my friends are pretty alpha).
You're going to med school, working a job, and it sounds like you have other things going on too. I'm surprised you even have time to worry about dating.
I'm curious as to how your friends are more "alpha" than you. Are they more buff, better at approaching, what?

Anyway, dude you're going to be a doctor! That's a prime chick magnet profession. Even the potential of that makes you a great catch. Remember that and make it part of your confidence. If I were you I would finish your "mission" and then you can worry about where to find girls. My guess is you won't have much trouble finding them.
 

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zekko said:
You're going to med school, working a job, and it sounds like you have other things going on too. I'm surprised you even have time to worry about dating.
I'm curious as to how your friends are more "alpha" than you. Are they more buff, better at approaching, what?

Anyway, dude you're going to be a doctor! That's a prime chick magnet profession. Even the potential of that makes you a great catch. Remember that and make it part of your confidence. If I were you I would finish your "mission" and then you can worry about where to find girls. My guess is you won't have much trouble finding them.
Still, I want experience in these matters. Trust me, I'm way behind.

They are more buff, but also being social without worrying about anything comes naturally to them. They've been going out to bars, etc. for years. They're quicker on their feet, too and don't care what people think about what they say or think. Not to say I'm slow, but they're better than me.

Also, I'm not so sure the doctor thing is so much a draw. This cute 22 year old turned me down a few days ago and now I hear she's going on a date with some college drop out. I thought my approach was pretty good and I was looking and feeling pretty good and she knew about the whole medical stuff.

I mean, I'm 25 now and I feel like I'm "wasting" my prime years in getting young ***** in their prime.
 

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It's one of those things because of what you're doing there is only going to be a finite amount of time that you have to meet women. Obviously this is important to you so it's not something you should completely ignore because even once you're a doctor it doesn't mean some chick is going to fall into your lap.

It's good that you're hanging around guys better than you because hopefully they'll drag you up to their level. Do they know you're actively trying to get better at meeting women? Because if they do, it could be useful
 

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I honestly think I'm improving a lot, but I'm having trouble landing dates. And it's not because I'm failing at interactions, but rather the amount of women I've met over the last several months is very low.

The couple of "dates" I've gotten ended up being with girls with bfs. Not exactly the best to practice on.
So you having dates with girls with boyfriends interesting. Elaborate further?



I tried supplementing with online dating, but boy that was a mistake, it's basically even harder in the virtual world than real world. Tilts everything in the girl's favor.

I'm so busy. You may remember my previous posts how I'm so busy--I'm graduating med school soon, I have several other things going on outside of that in terms of career goals that don't exactly promote socializing with chicks. I missed out on a normal college experience so I missed that cesspool there.
Seems like you got a plan and your life is on the track you want it to be, your ahead of most people there.

Yeah, there's nurses, but right now they're the ones giving me orders, though that will change soon.

I can go out with a few friends to bar, problem is that my relationship with them is I'm the AFC one for the most part (both my friends are pretty alpha).
Before I read this part I was about to tell you to make new friends that are "better" or more "alpha" than you and you already have that problem solved. Now learn off them and if they are getting girls you can get the girls friends or learn off them and do your own thing.
 

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PickSix said:
So you having dates with girls with boyfriends interesting. Elaborate further?
Well, I end up thinking they're dates, but it turns out they want company while their bf is away. So they're not really dates. They're moreso interested in the "activity" than in being interested in me. Or they're interested in having "company" to do these things.

And then usually it's the innocent "I didn't know I was leading you on."
 

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Siragoos said:
I honestly think I'm improving a lot, but I'm having trouble landing dates. And it's not because I'm failing at interactions, but rather the amount of women I've met over the last several months is very low.

The couple of "dates" I've gotten ended up being with girls with bfs. Not exactly the best to practice on.

I tried supplementing with online dating, but boy that was a mistake, it's basically even harder in the virtual world than real world. Tilts everything in the girl's favor.

I'm so busy. You may remember my previous posts how I'm so busy--I'm graduating med school soon, I have several other things going on outside of that in terms of career goals that don't exactly promote socializing with chicks. I missed out on a normal college experience so I missed that cesspool there.

Yeah, there's nurses, but right now they're the ones giving me orders, though that will change soon.

I can go out with a few friends to bar, problem is that my relationship with them is I'm the AFC one for the most part (both my friends are pretty alpha).

In my opinion I would say seeing you are graduating med school soon focus on your exams and leave the chicks later. If you feel you can comfortably do both, then just day game. Day game is convenient and even if you are busy you don't have to go out of your way for it. The only time where it gets hard when you get a lot of dates and dates take time.
 

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rushing dude 123 said:
In my opinion I would say seeing you are graduating med school soon focus on your exams and leave the chicks later. If you feel you can comfortably do both, then just day game. Day game is convenient and even if you are busy you don't have to go out of your way for it. The only time where it gets hard when you get a lot of dates and dates take time.
I like this. Only problem is that with this lack of "sample size" I'm prone to getting oneitis, especially women I actually have spent time with or know a bit.

And like I said, the fact they have boyfriends makes it worse for me because then I brood on it.
 

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zekko said:
You're going to med school, working a job, and it sounds like you have other things going on too. I'm surprised you even have time to worry about dating.
I'm curious as to how your friends are more "alpha" than you. Are they more buff, better at approaching, what?

Anyway, dude you're going to be a doctor! That's a prime chick magnet profession. Even the potential of that makes you a great catch. Remember that and make it part of your confidence. If I were you I would finish your "mission" and then you can worry about where to find girls. My guess is you won't have much trouble finding them.
it may be a prime chick magnet but if he is as AFC as he says and he probably is if hes posting on this site....then said chicks will quickly drop him.

as for TC sounds like his mental thought process is all wrong....I'd suggest working on changing the way you think....I'd also say make sure you manage your time better.

look Im well aware med school is a beast but it need not kill you and suck every hour of the day of your life away. manage time better. if you have 4 hours of class a day....and 6 hours of on field training as a pre-med student....that leaves 6 hours to do stuff. manage that 6 hours like a boss. and make sure you arent cutting into the 8 hours of sleep. i honestly suspect this is the root of your problem you are swamped with med school and your time management is rotten not that i blame you its easy to do that and I know im guilty of poor time management. also allocate time for home work....1 hour for class A 30 minutes for class B and so on.

this will also help change how you think too because it will reduce stress. read DJ bible daily. exercise, eat right(find a way dont settle for fast food cause you are busy), and in time youll get the dating thing incorporated there and your life will be in order when that time comes.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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I mean, I'm 25 now and I feel like I'm "wasting" my prime years in getting young ***** in their prime.
When you're 30, well into your career making six figures, and in as good of or better shape than you are now, you're going to laugh at this quote. You aren't a woman. You have PLENTY of time to snatch up all the young tight pvssy you want. Just try not to get in a devastating car accident, fvck up your career, die, etc. then you really would've wasted your years :D
 

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Okay. Let's get down to some practical advice. Sure you're going to be a doctor and that's great but for now it sounds like you're in BETA city and tired of it.

Go out with your Alpha crew less! Pick another friend who knows he's meant to be your wing. A good friend will do that for you. A guy with a wife or steady girlfriend that isn't going to be competition. He's supposed to help you by opening up sets of girls, shouting "He's gonna be a rich doctor!", and basically blowing you up as the most desirable dude on the planet. If you don't have a friend like that then get one. Female wings are also fantastic if used properly.

I haven't heard anything about how you present yourself. Obviously standard advice applies. Get ripped at gym and get a new wardrobe. How do you look and be objective. Make a list of improvements you want to make to yourself. If you look like an AFC you ARE an AFC.

Tinder is a good option if you're here in the US. Give it a shot. It's an APP on your iphone. Forget about Match and all that crap. It doesn't work and the chicks are kooks.

Make sure the bars aren't your only social outlet. They're fun and all but the odds of you picking up a quality chick are LOW. They're great for practice and spinning plates. Try and close with a chick that night... getting numbers is all well and good but if you don't leave with a kiss at least the odds of it turning into anything more are again LOW.

You're in school? Their should be plenty of gals you can associate with that won't damage your overall rep in the case that you ditch them. Underclassmen, interns, whatever. Coffee shops should be brimming with these gals.

Also, buy a dog! It's unconditional love and chicks light up to see a dude with a dog. Some dudes on here also buy a cat for the easy pvssy jokes which cracks me up. But a dog you can take places and he serves as your furry little wing man.

One more thing... it's winter time. Not a great time for meeting chicks. It's not. A lot of them hibernate. Now is the time for you to get ripped, get your game down, and ready for spring. Seriously. Don't waste a night out, your brain cells, your money, and liver when you know its not going to achieve anything and you could be much more productive. Alcohol is a game KILLER. It helps at first but if you overinduldge you're a wreck and a turn off. Plus you have the hangover the next day which makes you MORE depressed. Knock that off. Have some mocktails.

My two cents.
 

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Johnny Alias said:
Okay. Let's get down to some practical advice. Sure you're going to be a doctor and that's great but for now it sounds like you're in BETA city and tired of it.

Go out with your Alpha crew less! Pick another friend who knows he's meant to be your wing. A good friend will do that for you. A guy with a wife or steady girlfriend that isn't going to be competition. He's supposed to help you by opening up sets of girls, shouting "He's gonna be a rich doctor!", and basically blowing you up as the most desirable dude on the planet. If you don't have a friend like that then get one. Female wings are also fantastic if used properly.

I haven't heard anything about how you present yourself. Obviously standard advice applies. Get ripped at gym and get a new wardrobe. How do you look and be objective. Make a list of improvements you want to make to yourself. If you look like an AFC you ARE an AFC.

Tinder is a good option if you're here in the US. Give it a shot. It's an APP on your iphone. Forget about Match and all that crap. It doesn't work and the chicks are kooks.

Make sure the bars aren't your only social outlet. They're fun and all but the odds of you picking up a quality chick are LOW. They're great for practice and spinning plates. Try and close with a chick that night... getting numbers is all well and good but if you don't leave with a kiss at least the odds of it turning into anything more are again LOW.

You're in school? Their should be plenty of gals you can associate with that won't damage your overall rep in the case that you ditch them. Underclassmen, interns, whatever. Coffee shops should be brimming with these gals.

Also, buy a dog! It's unconditional love and chicks light up to see a dude with a dog. Some dudes on here also buy a cat for the easy pvssy jokes which cracks me up. But a dog you can take places and he serves as your furry little wing man.

One more thing... it's winter time. Not a great time for meeting chicks. It's not. A lot of them hibernate. Now is the time for you to get ripped, get your game down, and ready for spring. Seriously. Don't waste a night out, your brain cells, your money, and liver when you know its not going to achieve anything and you could be much more productive. Alcohol is a game KILLER. It helps at first but if you overinduldge you're a wreck and a turn off. Plus you have the hangover the next day which makes you MORE depressed. Knock that off. Have some mocktails.

My two cents.
I admit my looks department needs work.

I dress MUCH MUCH better than I used to. Got new clothes that fit me better, more mature looking, and I get compliments on them all the time.

However, one problem--I'm skinny as ****. I go to the gym and work out, but it's always been a battle for me to gain weight. My brother is the same way, so it may run in the family. However, I am trying my best in this department, eating more, etc.

Tone-wise, I have muscles, but I'm not bulky, in fact I'm the opposite, still skinny.
 

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Siragoos said:
Also, I'm not so sure the doctor thing is so much a draw. This cute 22 year old turned me down a few days ago and now I hear she's going on a date with some college drop out.
Some girls are drawn to losers. Those aren't the kind of girls you want to be around. Trust me, they're doing you a favor.

Siragoos said:
They are more buff, but also being social without worrying about anything comes naturally to them. They've been going out to bars, etc. for years. They're quicker on their feet, too and don't care what people think about what they say or think. Not to say I'm slow, but they're better than me.
They may be more practiced at playing the social game than you, and it may come more naturally to them, but they're not better than you. Some of the posters are calling you beta because you should improve your mindset, have more confidence in yourself. You're saying a couple of dudes are better than you because they waste more time hanging around in bars. While you've been doing something a lot more substantial with your time, that will pay big dividends for a long time. Think about that.
 

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Been there. You need to put on some muscle and not screw around. I'm talking 200 grams of protein per day. As much as you can eat. Work out 5 days a week. Make the time not excuses.

You need to get some protein powder. Have at least 2 shakes a day if not 3. Eat a chicken breast between meals. Stop drinking beer. Seriously. Knock it off. All it does is create estrogen and a beer belly.

Find someone to work out with and look up the right work outs. You need to isolate your muscle groups and KILL them if you want to see results.

http://www.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/10-week-mass-building-program.html

When you get the results and you will if you have discipline you WILL feel better about yourself. You will. Confidence will come.

Do it and don't make excuses. If you want something bad enough then make it happen... or just shut up and don't complain. Complaining gets you NOTHING in this life. Action does. Period.

One more thing about chicks... The TAO of Steve
1) Be desireless.
2) Be aloof.
3) Be excellent.

Good luck.
 
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