How do I get into this girl's pants and DON'T tell me to next her

Demystify

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This one girl (I tried hooking up with her but only got to make out with her) put me in the friend zone but at the same time she keeps on trying to get attention to me and lead me on as if I have a crush on her (which I don't). I tried hooking up with her again but failed. So since she started just using me for attention I started to ignore her, because it was making me mad that she would just use me to give her attention. So after ignoring her for a couple of months I randomly say something to her when I'm drunk at a party and she says (in a mean voice) "oh, so you're talking to me now?" But then whenever I ignore her she tries talking to me again.


So how do I change things around and get in her pants? And DON'T TELL ME TO NEXT HER PLEASE!
 

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Your not gonna like what I have to say, but here goes:

I don't think you can change things around easily. She has all the power because she knows your attracted to her. She uses you for the attention she's not getting from the guys she's attracted to. If what you want out of the interaction between the 2 of you is sex then I have to say that nexting her and moving on is the best idea. Your not gonna trick her into liking you and having sex with you (unless you get her drunk and take advantage, I'm not recommending this though).

Trust me buddy, it's over. I've been in your position too many times. Being used by a girl for attention because she know I like her. And trust me, once she meets a guy she likes you'll be thrown aside, because your no longer useful to her and probably a viability to her new relationship. Ultimately it's your choice, your life and your pride. But take my advice and move on, it'll be better in the long run (I'm always in your position with relationships with girls).
 

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Scion said:
Your not gonna like what I have to say, but here goes:

I don't think you can change things around easily. She has all the power because she knows your attracted to her. She uses you for the attention she's not getting from the guys she's attracted to. If what you want out of the interaction between the 2 of you is sex then I have to say that nexting her and moving on is the best idea. Your not gonna trick her into liking you and having sex with you (unless you get her drunk and take advantage, I'm not recommending this though).

Trust me buddy, it's over. I've been in your position too many times. Being used by a girl for attention because she know I like her. And trust me, once she meets a guy she likes you'll be thrown aside, because your no longer useful to her and probably a viability to her new relationship. Ultimately it's your choice, your life and your pride. But take my advice and move on, it'll be better in the long run (I'm always in your position with relationships with girls).

Nope, I'm not moving on. What if I become a huge jerk to her and constantly said really mean things about her to her face?
 

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Demystify said:
Nope, I'm not moving on. What if I become a huge jerk to her and constantly said really mean things about her to her face?
I don't know, I don't have any experience doing this. Personally it seems like a lot of effort to go to just to have sex. I'd understand it if you actually liked this girl and had oneitis and desperately wanted to be with her (I've been there so I can relate). But if you put in the same effort into a girl that liked you I bet you'd get laid a lot faster (and easier). Plus I find when you focus too much on one girl you don't see the other girls around you (and these girls may be better/hotter than the one your obsessing over).

I don't see how being a angry ******* to her will make her want to sleep with you though (she'll assume your angry because she won't sleep with you, and she'll be right). But considering I'm a virgin I can't advise you on how to trick this girl into sleeping with you. All I can do is tell you how to preserve your pride. Because I've been in your position more than most of the guys on this forum, and I've always moved on (eventually, excluding my own really bad oneitis, that took a long time to move on from).
 

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Scion said:
I don't know, I don't have any experience doing this. Personally it seems like a lot of effort to go to just to have sex. I'd understand it if you actually liked this girl and had oneitis and desperately wanted to be with her (I've been there so I can relate). But if you put in the same effort into a girl that liked you I bet you'd get laid a lot faster (and easier). Plus I find when you focus too much on one girl you don't see the other girls around you (and these girls may be better/hotter than the one your obsessing over).

I don't see how being a angry ******* to her will make her want to sleep with you though (she'll assume your angry because she won't sleep with you, and she'll be right). But considering I'm a virgin I can't advise you on how to trick this girl into sleeping with you. All I can do is tell you how to preserve your pride. Because I've been in your position more than most of the guys on this forum, and I've always moved on (eventually, excluding my own really bad oneitis, that took a long time to move on from).
When you say put the same effort into a girl that liked you what do you mean by effort? What kind of effort? And how did you get over all those girls that did this to you?
 

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Demystify said:
Nope, I'm not moving on. What if I become a huge jerk to her and constantly said really mean things about her to her face?
You believe she will fall in love with you and take off her clothes and have sex with you if you constantly put her down and insult her appearance and intelligence? Come on dude, what girl gets horny when she is put down all the time and told she is a worthless pieces of garbage?

If you tried to have sex with her twice and she said no, there is no magical saying or wonder pill we can give you for her to change her mind. The only way you can improve things is if she says you are improving yourself. Taking a course, getting ripped, learning a language, buying a building, being a doctor, all these will help her get some interest in you again. You won't be able to do it with words, you have to do it through your actions. Don't next her, but try not to put all your energy and focus in having sex with her.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
You believe she will fall in love with you and take off her clothes and have sex with you if you constantly put her down and insult her appearance and intelligence? Come on dude, what girl gets horny when she is put down all the time and told she is a worthless pieces of garbage?

If you tried to have sex with her twice and she said no, there is no magical saying or wonder pill we can give you for her to change her mind. The only way you can improve things is if she says you are improving yourself. Taking a course, getting ripped, learning a language, buying a building, being a doctor, all these will help her get some interest in you again. You won't be able to do it with words, you have to do it through your actions. Don't next her, but try not to put all your energy and focus in having sex with her.

I've known tons and tons of guys who have gotten girls by putting them down. And she doesn't like guy who are "ripped" nor does she like successful doctors. She likes bad boys who get all of their money from girls.
 

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She's never going to have sex with you and you're only wasting your time and mental health by thinking about it. You don't like her or even want to have sex with her. You just hate her because of what she's doing to you and think getting sex from her is the best revenge. The best revenge is ignoring her, or being seen with another woman in her presence, hotter and better. Maybe then she'll change her mind but by that point you'll be having sex with a hotter girl and won't want her.
 

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If she likes bad boys, play that route. Ignore her, and be a **** one day, then next day, be nice and flirty, and naughty. Get her to a high point, eject and flirt with girls in front of her for a while. push/pull, hot/cold. Dont be TOO much of an as$hole, but enough of one, and always be sexual. As soon as she's focusing on you, make a bold move. If she rejects, wait, and do it again, bad boy style. Make the ho say no style. Persistance is key. She rejects your advance, and you say something like "Shut the fvck up and make out with me." while grabbing her towards you. Bad boys are bold, so be bold, and unapologetic.Tell her she has to tell you no a hundred times before you'll leave her alone. Every once in a while, switch it up on her, and keep her guessing. Nice,mean, nice, mean.
 

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Let her see you with another girl and lower your interest level, this will confuse her inferior female mind complex :up:
 

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Seeing you with other women always gives the best return for smallest investment, it's like dumping gasoline on smoldering coals.

But taking control of your own life and destiny should always be your prime directive, regardless of women. If you build it, they will come.
 

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Demystify said:
I've known tons and tons of guys who have gotten girls by putting them down. She likes bad boys who get all of their money from girls.
If she has sex with guys who take all her money, then she's not the sharpest tool in the shed.

The tons of tons of guys you know who have sex with girls by putting them down, the girls are in need of desperate help. They have no self confidence and need some counseling ASAP.
 

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Next her.

No but seriously, I am in pretty much the exact same situation myself with a girl. She's hot but a friend, and instead of making out with her I asked her to Homecoming last year and she said no.

Pretty much uses me for my attention, which I've given her very sparingly. I'd say make her jealous by surrounding yourself with other girls, asking her to do favors with you, and basically doing everything to reverse the role. Don't be a jerk to her (i was doing that for a while but it didnt work.) but do tease her and do a lot of push pull. Always seem busy to her. Try to control her instead of the other way around.

Tough situation, I don't really know much but I do feel like we're kind of in the same boat. Hopefully something'll come out of it for both of us.
 

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DonJuan11 said:
The tons of tons of guys you know who have sex with girls by putting them down, the girls are in need of desperate help. They have no self confidence and need some counseling ASAP.
Well pretty much EVERY girl I've ever met likes to be made fun of by a guy, at least in a playful way, so I guess every girl has no self confidence by your standards.
 

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Demystify said:
Well pretty much EVERY girl I've ever met likes to be made fun of by a guy, at least in a playful way, so I guess every girl has no self confidence by your standards.
teasing is different than putting them down. Insulting a girl or treating her with disrespect won't make her wet, unless there's something wrong with her.
 

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Demystify said:
Nope, I'm not moving on. What if I become a huge jerk to her and constantly said really mean things about her to her face?
If you do that, you might as well shoot yourself with a gun. This MIGHT only work if she's really into you. She is not into you. You will just annoy her and probably get some other guy to bitsh slap your a$$.

By being a jerk, you will just make it easier for her to stop talking to you, period. She'll just reject you, without protecting your ego and chance to escape with dignity.
 

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Demystify said:
Well pretty much EVERY girl I've ever met likes to be made fun of by a guy, at least in a playful way, so I guess every girl has no self confidence by your standards.
True, but only if she's already attracted to him. She is NOT attracted to you. If done by a stalker, creepy, nerd, or guy she's already rejected because of lack of interest, it will only make things worse for you.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
By being a jerk, you will just make it easier for her to stop talking to you, period.

But she doesn't want to stop talking to me at all. Anytime I ignore her she goes out of her way to talk to me again.
 

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Get over your fvcking oneitis and next her. You cant have everything you want. Theres WAY better girls out there.
 
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