How do I avoid the Friendszone/LJBF trap?

NewMan

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the problem with "Challenge" is that it only works on the stupid hoes that you wouldn't want a relationship with.

Why? because it set's you apart from the other losers.

How many guy's want to be with these girls.... almost all...

How many of those self same guys are not throwing themselves at the mercy of the girl - who are being ABOVE her - who are setting themselves apart from the pack - who are not consistantly available to do whatever she wants...

Not many.

Challenge works.

It set's you apart.

Unless your Brad Pitt - then you go do whatever you want.
 

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I think when a girl gives you the LJBF line she means she does not look at u as a guy but rather as just one of her girl friends. I think you can be a friends with a girl and still go out with her later on, of course theres a few rules that need to be followed. Theres a lot of good posts by Pook and Mr. fingers on this subject. But heres my 2cents

First you yourself must be a man. Not just a guy with a ****. A man. You need have confidence in yourself, you must have a life, have ambition and not be a bum, be atheletic, be sure of youself, sense of humour, blah blah blah the list goes on. But first its really important that you see yourself as a man and her as the woman. When you look at yourself differently your body will follow. Your body language will speak volumes.

You being the man, should always lead. Learn to lead her. Dont be controlling or possesive rather whenever you get the chance lead her. Make the decisions. But do be considerate of her interests as well.

Kino, do a search on kino on here. Theres heaps of information.

its really important you have a life. This life takes the priority over the girl. Example sports training, she says lets go do something tonight. But you have training, what do u do? off to training mate. But dont blow her away all the time, or she will think you dont wanan hang around with her. Learn to balance this. This is the core of being a challenge. She cant control you 100%. You are not phased by her beauty. You find her attractive but just because she is hot you dont go and kiss her bum or suck upto her.


Another things is not go on talking about her problems or yours. Whenever shes out with you, she should be see you as some one fun to hang around with. Dont go talking about how you use to like this girl in high school and blah balh blah. And dont keep talking about her ex bfs and stuff. And dont read cosmo together with her. And let her see other girls flirting with you, not other way around. Pretend you are not interested in them, they dont meet your requirements. She will start seeing you as someone different.

Theres heaps of things and everyone will tell u something different, no ones wrong, kino, challenge dont call her all the time, but first you must change yourself and your attitude . Become a man, then she will start to look at you as a man and not just one her gfs.
 

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Good tips Deadly .. and can be summed up like this:

Make her feel like women and you've got romantic potential.

Women are attracted to us men by the way we are really. We're attracted to them the way they are. It goes hand in hand (literally speaking).

-Giving her gifts early on won't make her feel like a woman
-Being availble and calling all the time won't make her feel like a woman
-Talking to her like a guy, won't make her feel like a woman

What will?

-complimenting her on things unique to her
-being a challenge .. a man leading his own life
-being energetic and fun, yet a manly way
 

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its been said so many times before, just because you've been LJBF doesn't mean your chances or getting the girl are 0, unless she rejected you and then said LJBF, in which case you are just going to be her friend. Its just gonna take longer than usual to cort the girl, and it might be a little tense to re-escelate to a kiss again

there's so many ways i can go here, but yeah i'll just leave a general comment
 

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Right after I first left for college my oneitis gave me some great advice over the phone that I didn't even realize was great advice until later.

I was talking about girls, and she told me "start hitting on girls!" Basically what she was saying is let your intentions be known early on. If you don't let a girl know that you want to be with her, then she will LJBF you in no time (because you didn't let her know that you DIDN'T want her to do that.)

When you meet a girl that you like, its OK to flirt with her, get her number, and let her know that you are interested in her. Grab your balls and do it. Girls want you to take control in relationships. They don't want you to ***** around and wait for THEM to make a move. Because 99 percent of girls WON'T make the move. That's your job.
 

00Kevin

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Like I said before,

Avoid doing anything with her that you would do with your Guy friends.

Avoid doing anything with her that She would do with her girl friends.

Provided you make a move on her, if you stick to that you can't go wrong. you won't be put into the friends zone.


Women like men who go for them. They don't like cowards.
 
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