how did I get rejected by a 5!!!!

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

I hung out with this girl over the weekend. **** was going okay until I got too drunk. I was trying to dance with her and she acted like she wasn't down for it. That is when **** hit the fan. I confessed that I liked her a lot and called her out on being too hung up on this other guy to enjoy our good time. This girl is definately a 5 or even a 4!!!! We wound up sleeping next to each other. The next morning, we starting cuddling and I fingered her. Soon thereafter, she pulled back - and then she asked herself "what am I doing". I questioned her - "what do you mean"...and she said - I'm not even attracted to you. DAMN!!!! I was super confused and still am. Compared with the other guys I've seen this girl go out with, I am Brad Pitt. No Lie. I don't know what the hell. It can't be my looks - cause I think I am fairly attractive. Musta been my whole approach to her or her hangup with other guys. I know you guys are wondering why I even care about this 5 anyways. Here is my answer - it is the principle of the thing. I should be able to pull a chick that is less attractive than me.

 

[Mavrick]

It has nothing to do with your looks, but everything to do with the person you have been. You acted AFC. You told her you liked her and told her she was too hung up on someone else. If you talk bad about another guy to a girl, you only push her towards him.

Also, you never tell a woman you like her first. Let her do the pursuing and you just do the attraction.

Seriously, it has nothing to do with your looks, but everything to do with your chode behavior. She wasn't attracted to your behavior. Never put a woman up above you. Don't cater to them or kiss their 4ss.

Girls go by personality before looks.

 

[MotownMack]

I should be able to pull a chick that is less attractive than me.

I think this was a problem going in.

Yes, you're supposed to think you're the prize. But, if you believe the stuff that's discussed here- that women are attracted to looks to some extent, but even more attracted to your game, then you still have develop some attraction on non-physical levels, even with HB5s.

It sounds like you just decided that this chick was so far beneath you appearance wise that you could get away with whatever you wanted-she picked up on it, and it turned her off.

Confidence is great, but there is such a thing as being too aggressive, too soon-and that will turn off just about any girl. One thing that girls actually say that you can sort of believe them on- to the point of being redundant -is that they want a guy that's confident, but not ****y.

Well, we do know they do like ****y, to a certain extent. But go to far with that, and it's a turn off for almost any girl (or guy for that matter-I find confidence in a woman in attractive too, but if they go to far with it, I am going to write them off ass a b1tch or an AW).

One other thoughts- a Ross Jefferies theory, which is good to remember when you get rejected by chicks that you think should be totally into you-OR when you're thinking about approaching an HB9 and you're doubting yourself: You simply can't tell what a woman's physical type is in terms of what she'll go for-not by looking at her, anyway.

IOW,

Don't assume because you think you're more attractive than her, you can throw your game out the window because she should be dying to get with you (this sounds like what you did). And don't take personally if she isn't interested.

Don't assume that just because a chick is hot, that she is only be into guys that look and dress like models, or disqualify yourself. True, you should probably not be an overweight slob, but some girls hate Metros, don't like skinny guys, etc (i.e. the last HB9 I dated had a rockin body, but was not at all into washboard abs-she liked cuddly guys, and actually preferred a little baby fat to a rock hard body when it came to guys).

I am sure most guys would look at her and assume she was looking for a Brad Pitt clone. She wasn't. You just never know.

 

[MotownMack]

FYI- I am with Mavrick on this one, it sounds like it was just sloppy execution across the board, from giving her a hard time about the other guys and telling her you liked her. Even HB5's will see this as a DLV unless they have a very high IL.

I bet if you posted more, and really wanted to learn from this, there is probably a lot more you could have done better also.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

+1 w/Mavrick.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

thanks for replying guys. I am in a total bummed out state. I haven't acted so AFC in a while. What is really awkward is that after this happened, I still had to spend the night at her house an extra night. because she lives a few towns away and my train ticket was booked for a certain day - I should have left immediately after my shenanigans but wanted to save $$. I am just hoping she doesn't tell the guy she is crazy over about what happened. He is kinda a friend of mine and then he is gonna diss me about it and mistrust me (cause even though he is not interested in her, he would expect me to tell him if I had interest in her.) only other thing it could've been is height - I am not that much shorter than her however but the guy that she is crazy over may be a bit shorter than her too. (I am almost 5'7") I am also more muscular, stronger than that guy. I am really trying not to let this get me down - but man, you guys shoulda heard the AFC crap that came outta my mouth after 1 too many vodka and OJs. If I wasn't in a different town and had some of my homies with me, I woulda bounced the second she didn't dance. She also claimed to have no idea that I liked her, which is dumb as **** cause why in the crap would I go try to hang out with her like that??? I have flirted with her or at least I thought I sent the right signals. good grief.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

yeah. I think I have game sometimes. my last gf was a 9. all the dudes are always trying to get with her. I have gamed a taller girl before, but she was nothing to brag about really. I do need to improve my game though. I have a hard time I think deciding between playing it too "cool" and not acting like I give a **** and caring too much. Like this girl claimed, she didn't know I was interested. She also said that she thought I was still with my ex (I assumed she had read my myspace page saying single). I just don't know how to strike that balance of showing interest and not being needy about it. I try to show interest but either the girls are not interested or I am not doing it the right way.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

I wonder why she lemme get some finger action the next morning (no kissing tho just cuddling). she musta temporarily forgot about the night before.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

Also, you never tell a woman you like her first. Let her do the pursuing and you just do the attraction.

okay, but if I wait around for women to pursue, I may be waiting forever and ever. I tried to create attraction with this girl. girls don't make the first move. so I did by trying to dance with her. I admit I put myself in a bad situation (one in which I couldn't eject out of since I was on her turf without any way to get on my own).

 

[Juan_Man]

Goodlooking AFCs get rejected by ugly girls.

Ugly DJs get laid by hot girls.

 

[lordson]

Goodlooking AFCs get rejected by ugly girls.

Ugly DJs get laid by hot girls.

Thats the truth.

I also once tried to get a rather ugly girl, but I had no game then, was AFC and she rejected me. And I am easily way above her looks level. She was a 5, and I'm probably 7.5-8

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

it's not like I was AFC the entire time I was gaming her. I thought I was being DJ with her. It's not like I was writing her love poems and sending her flowers before ever going on the (what I thought was supposed to be a date) with her. For whatever reason my don juan tactics didn't work on her. How 'cool' and 'don juan' can I be on someone that is obsessed over another guy (which I assume she was). I don't know what I could've done to seem to her like the better choice (I am.)

 

[schttrj]

thanks for replying guys. I am in a total bummed out state. I haven't acted so AFC in a while. What is really awkward is that after this happened, I still had to spend the night at her house an extra night. because she lives a few towns away and my train ticket was booked for a certain day - I should have left immediately after my shenanigans but wanted to save $$. I am just hoping she doesn't tell the guy she is crazy over about what happened. He is kinda a friend of mine and then he is gonna diss me about it and mistrust me (cause even though he is not interested in her, he would expect me to tell him if I had interest in her.) only other thing it could've been is height - I am not that much shorter than her however but the guy that she is crazy over may be a bit shorter than her too. (I am almost 5'7") I am also more muscular, stronger than that guy. I am really trying not to let this get me down - but man, you guys shoulda heard the AFC crap that came outta my mouth after 1 too many vodka and OJs. If I wasn't in a different town and had some of my homies with me, I woulda bounced the second she didn't dance. She also claimed to have no idea that I liked her, which is dumb as **** cause why in the crap would I go try to hang out with her like that??? I have flirted with her or at least I thought I sent the right signals. good grief.

lol, u remind of a same incident. there was a time when a girl (6.5<,>5) was very much attracted to me but i feel she was somewhat insecure of my playa personality, since i used to hang out with lots of girls too. so since there was no attraction from my side, i didnt made a move just maintained friendship, and she also didnt have the courage to go get me. ok, now what happened is one of my AFC friend, who is more muscular than me i think so, fell for her. now, i tried to somewhat hook them up. so as i always used to visit her house often, i started taking him along with me too and the only advice i gave him is that since he is going with me, he needs to work hard to get himself a strong place different from me first of all in her eyes, then should make a move. and damn! some boys are so desperate and bloody stupid, they dont know how the real world works. what he did is he went over to the girl and said all bad things about me. even that were not true. what did she do? she didnt actually responded to what he said, started avoiding him and our connection and trust even increased, u know what was working here... her compliance to my value, it was increasing. anyways, i knew my friend didnt do it intentionally so i forgave him even before he asked for it and just told him to move on and get himself a solid game next time. this is just one example adn there are some more where they did the same heinous act of making me bad in front of the girls eyes and what teh girl do, she ended up kissing me, letting me caress her... lol i hope u got some advice through that.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

thanks schttrj for the story. hehe. yeah, I think situations like these (in which the girl already has an infatuation) can be tricky waters - maybe not for the super djs, but for those of us who struggle on occasion.

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

this whole event is something I'm going to be stuck on for at least another week or so. I don't know - somehow while I was drunk, I made her start crying. I was telling her all this stuff like she would be sorry about not being into me (I didnt say it in those exact words however) - and then I end up feeling all over her tits, fingering her - no kissing and then she starts saying she isnt attracted to me. I wish I woulda skipped out on the drinking and just ran that game I did in the bed (when we were sleeping next to each other>):::then she wouldn't have had such a negative image of me and perhaps would have let me carry on furhter with the feeling and cuddling.

 

[schttrj]

it may sound stupid at this moment but remember DJs are not supposed to get the oneitis with at least a HB 5 or 4. Even in the world there was one girl left and all DJs competing for her, and u lose out on the game, remember its a human mind, it can change any moment adn maybe the next moment, it is all over you. i will tell u to move on and find some HB 9 to work upon. man, we are on our way, damn it. theres no stopping us. at least i feel, if i get in relationship with one super hot girl, then also it is not enough. at least, i would love to have some more stringed to my fingers. u get me? i want that magic, till then no stopping me. just like Ghengis Khan, conquering the whole world is my dream!

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Listen to what Mavrick said

Also a lot of guys assume the lower quality chick will be easier pvssy instead of the hotties. As a result a less attractive chick might have more suitors or @ least more guys open about wanting to hit skins. They have more options and can pick and choose as a result.

Also... spooning a 5 or possibly 4? Damn you must really be starving for affection I guess, lol

 

[cloneofstenyhoyer]

haha. yeah microphone fiend. she was cute for a 5. LOL.