How Can You Be A Christian Don Juan?

[Gimple]

@taiyuu_otoko,

I'm missing the point of you posting these verses here, or how they relate to this discussion.

Please, clue me in.

 

[Young_Don]

Hebrews 13:4 - Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but *****mongers and adulterers God will judge.

This is something I've struggled with recently as I'm a Christian. I've learned a lot from people here/book of pook/other materials about not only myself but how to deal with women (obviously). I've never said something because I know that 99% of people here would pipe up and give me shyt for my faith, and not that that would bother me, I don't care what anyone thinks about it, but I just don't see any productivity coming from people taking joy in downplaying my faith.

With that being said, I have fvcked my share of girls in the past when I considered myself a Christian but only by name, not by faith - I didn't understand the things I needed to so I just did whatever I wanted.

Putting my faith to the side, I see that a lot of problems with women can be solved through sexual gratification and I don't doubt that at all. I agree with all of the sexual tension and chemistry that is fundamental in attracting and keeping women. I've just wanted to know if there are other ways of doing this that don't involve having to fvck a girl's brains out?

My goal is to become the best version of myself (however long that takes until I feel I'm ready) and to be in a LTR with someone I love. I'm in no rush for this, but that is my ultimate goal. I'm not interested in pulling girls and sleeping with them. I don't need that to make me feel better about myself or brag about it to my mates, it's just not what I want out of life, personally.

Any advice is much appreciated, anyone who wants to troll then I guess you can do that too if you need to get it off your chest lol no offence taken.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Gimple the Pimple is a sad, pathetic little man who has nothing better to do with his time than be a troll on this forum. Why this troll thread is still open is beyond me.

 

[zekko]

Troll, or not, it sounds like a legitimate question.

 

[backbreaker]

i've got back in to church. one thing i've done now, is that i am resolved to read the bible from cover to cover and form my own conclusions that are not interpreted by anyone else. This being a prime example why.

1. GOD from my understanding, has no problem with prostitutes as long as they are treated with respect and paid for their serves. Mary the "13th" disciple was a prostitute. GOD had no problem with abraham sleeping with prostitutes in genesis. **** GOD had no problem with Abraham sleeping with his maid to have Ishmael

2. You cannot look at the bible in a vacuum. You can't take versus from the bible and look at them at their face without understanding context. The context of Cortthionians being that they were in rome, surrounded by romans and they were simply stating do not be / act /do like the romans. dont' be roman. be better.


As I stated, i refuse to let anyone else's misinterpretation of the bible cloud my understanding of what i read. From what I read / understand god has no issue with prematrial sex. don't rape anyone, don't **** someone else's wife, don't live a life that revolves around nothing buyt sex and chasing sex in lieu of more meaningful goals and you're good to go

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Please, clue me in.

I've misunderstood your intentions, but now I get it. You aren't Christian, and you are trying to be clever it getting Christian DJ's to contradict themselves, all the while acting as if you are only asking innocent questions.

This is the argument strategy people with no real beliefs use. They can't really say things like "I believe this, what do you think?" Because they have no real beliefs they would argue in favor of. Instead, they pretend to "just ask questions," pretending to have a "discussion." But in reality they think they are being clever and leading people (whose beliefs they disagree with) to contradict themselves.

I thought you wanted a real conversation, but I was wrong.

I won't be responding to your threads again.

 

[Gimple]

Gimple the Pimple is a sad, pathetic little man who has nothing better to do with his time than be a troll on this forum. Why this troll thread is still open is beyond me.

That's the THIRD time in less than two pages you've piped up in this thread, yelling "Troll! Troll!"

And you accuse me of being a sad, pathetic man who has nothing better to do with his time. That's funny.

P.S. Resorting to name-calling just reveals that someone feels powerless in the situation.

1. GOD from my understanding, has no problem with prostitutes as long as they are treated with respect and paid for their serves. Mary the "13th" disciple was a prostitute. GOD had no problem with abraham sleeping with prostitutes in genesis. **** GOD had no problem with Abraham sleeping with his maid to have Ishmael

How do you explain the verses in the Bible that clearly condemn and warn against fornication then? One of them even goes so far as to say you will not inherit the Kingdom of God if you partake in it. In other words, you will go to hell if you have sex outside of marriage.

2. You cannot look at the bible in a vacuum. You can't take versus from the bible and look at them at their face without understanding context. The context of Cortthionians being that they were in rome, surrounded by romans and they were simply stating do not be / act /do like the romans. dont' be roman. be better.l

So I shouldn't take "Thou shalt not commit adultery" out of context? There are actually times when it's okay to do so?

I think that using the "you can't take things out of context" is just a maneuver believers use to justify doing something their holy book clearly says they shouldn't, or vice versa.

I've misunderstood your intentions, but now I get it. You aren't Christian, and you are trying to be clever it getting Christian DJ's to contradict themselves, all the while acting as if you are only asking innocent questions.

This is the argument strategy people with no real beliefs use. They can't really say things like "I believe this, what do you think?" Because they have no real beliefs they would argue in favor of. Instead, they pretend to "just ask questions," pretending to have a "discussion." But in reality they think they are being clever and leading people (whose beliefs they disagree with) to contradict themselves.

I thought you wanted a real conversation, but I was wrong.

I won't be responding to your threads again.

You've judged me wrongly ... but suit yourself.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

Gimple the Pimple is a sad, pathetic little man who has nothing better to do with his time than be a troll on this forum. Why this troll thread is still open is beyond me.

I've misunderstood your intentions, but now I get it. You aren't Christian, and you are trying to be clever it getting Christian DJ's to contradict themselves, all the while acting as if you are only asking innocent questions.

This is the argument strategy people with no real beliefs use. They can't really say things like "I believe this, what do you think?" Because they have no real beliefs they would argue in favor of. Instead, they pretend to "just ask questions," pretending to have a "discussion." But in reality they think they are being clever and leading people (whose beliefs they disagree with) to contradict themselves.

I thought you wanted a real conversation, but I was wrong.

I won't be responding to your threads again.

quit acting like such fagz, take your bitter god arguments else where
absolutely no need to cry about your beliefs when OP has a legitiment question.

@Gimple all pre-marital/adultery sex does is reek havoc in all our personal lives. If it all ended today familys would be joyous and loyal, kids would be happy and raised properly.. the communitys would be a happier place for everybody.
So when the bible says "do not fornicate" its just letting you know a valuable tip to having a easier life with less chaos I would serously go back and unbang all the girls iv met because it felt good in the moment all it really did was cause problems.

Alot of everybodys problems can usually boil down to sex outside of marriage occuring. just my opinion

 

[TheProspect]

Gimple the Pimple is a sad, pathetic little man who has nothing better to do with his time than be a troll on this forum. Why this troll thread is still open is beyond me.

People are not allowed to ask rational questions?

You have "Bible" in your name so it's not surprising you become a little defensive and close-minded when someone questions your beliefs. I'm not attacking you I'm just assuming your Christian because of your username.

Instead of averting the conversation though why not try and have an intelligent debate rather than blatantly ignoring the OP's question because you are triggered.

 

[TheProspect]

I've misunderstood your intentions, but now I get it. You aren't Christian, and you are trying to be clever it getting Christian DJ's to contradict themselves, all the while acting as if you are only asking innocent questions.

This is the argument strategy people with no real beliefs use. They can't really say things like "I believe this, what do you think?" Because they have no real beliefs they would argue in favor of. Instead, they pretend to "just ask questions," pretending to have a "discussion." But in reality they think they are being clever and leading people (whose beliefs they disagree with) to contradict themselves.

I thought you wanted a real conversation, but I was wrong.

I won't be responding to your threads again.

I personally think you have a lot of valuable insights on this forum and a lot of perspectives that resonate with me, that being said, I think you are overreacting here.

 

[Von]

You can't

Moliere was a profond anti-christian and libertain (you know the guy who wrote ''don juan'')

Also, basic catholic conversative preaching involve the rejection of happyness and of this world pleasure.... to prefer the afterlife

Instead of being a christian... follow Jesus teaching... Enjoy your people, Enjoy Life, Help others in the best way you can.... if you get laid... remember... it's only if the women wants it.... so yes, having sex with a girl can be a christian thing because its showing love to another

Now you go tiger

 

[Young_Don]

You can't

Moliere was a profond anti-christian and libertain (you know the guy who wrote ''don juan'')

Also, basic catholic conversative preaching involve the rejection of happyness and of this world pleasure.... to prefer the afterlife

Instead of being a christian... follow Jesus teaching... Enjoy your people, Enjoy Life, Help others in the best way you can.... if you get laid... remember... it's only if the women wants it.... so yes, having sex with a girl can be a christian thing because its showing love to another

Now you go tiger

Pretty sure you're confusing love with lust. Not sure what Bible you're reading but ok lol..

 

[Gimple]

So when the bible says "do not fornicate" its just letting you know a valuable tip to having a easier life with less chaos.

I think it's a little more than a "valuable tip." Sure, to a non-believer who's reading the Bible, that may be true. But from a Christian perspective, the destination of a person's soul hangs in the balance. The Apostle Paul clearly states that people who partake in fornication won't go to heaven.

You can't

Finally! Someone who answers the question plainly and honestly.

Instead of being a christian... follow Jesus teaching... Enjoy your people, Enjoy Life, Help others in the best way you can.... if you get laid... remember... it's only if the women wants it.... so yes, having sex with a girl can be a christian thing because its showing love to another

According to the Bible, you're wrong -- unless she's your wife. Having sex with anyone other than one's spouse is a non-Christian act, assuming the person actually follows the instructions in the Bible, and isn't a hypocrite who claims to follow the teachings of Jesus, but then disobeys them by doing whatever the hell they want.

 

[Von]

I think it's a little more than a "valuable tip." Sure, to a non-believer who's reading the Bible, that may be true. But from a Christian perspective, the destination of a person's soul hangs in the balance. The Apostle Paul clearly states that people who partake in fornication won't go to heaven.



Finally! Someone who answers the question plainly and honestly.



According to the Bible, you're wrong -- unless she's your wife. Having sex with anyone other than one's spouse is a non-Christian act, assuming the person actually follows the instructions in the Bible, and isn't a hypocrite who claims to follow the teachings of Jesus, but then disobeys them by doing whatever the hell they want.

Really? Well because its a old document that i use to wipe my ass with

Religion is for weak people

 

[Gimple]

@Von - Now I just wish a Christian here had the balls to confess that a person can't be a (real) Christian and a Don Juan (who is sexually active) at the same time.

But then again, being on a "get girls" forum, who wants to admit to being a hypocrite who bangs chicks even though the Bible specifically and emphatically tells them not to in a handful of passages?

 

[Young_Don]

@Von - Now I just wish a Christian here had the balls to confess that a person can't be a (real) Christian and a Don Juan (who is sexually active) at the same time.

But then again, being on a "get girls" forum, who wants to admit to being a hypocrite who bangs chicks even though the Bible specifically and emphatically tells them not to in a handful of passages?

I'm a Christian on SoSuave, and what? I never came here to learn how to bed girls. I've never had a problem with that, but the more I grow and understand my faith, the more I'm moving away from that.

I came here to learn how to grow as a man and how to deal/react to certain situations so that I don't make the same mistakes twice. I came to understand how women think and what they really mean through their words and actions instead of being ignorant and taking them for face value.

I applaud you on putting Christians on the spot, because if they really are here to learn how to bed girls when their faith specifically says not to (despite what some people on here might say) then you're right, they are hypocrites. I understand now that I can't be both a Christian and a Don Juan of sexual desires. But I want to be my own man, a man of God in obedience and with structure, whilst at the same time not getting dummied around by these hoes.

Just here to learn and grow.

 

[Gimple]

@samspade - Great page. Also, I've noticed with different translations of the Bible that sometimes "sexual immorality" is substituted with "fornication."

@Young_Don - I hold all religions in little regard, but I respect people who truly want to understand what their holy book teaches about living life, and then earnestly try to conform their own life to reflect its teaching. So all the best in your journey. I hope you succeed at becoming the kind of man Jesus wanted you to be. Even as an atheist, I like a lot of his teachings.

 

[speed dawg]

Plus one might argue that a virgin christain could be applying DJ principles just to get to first base until he gets enough experience to pick the right one.

This is the answer, Gimple. You may be able to justify banging women while in relationships early in life, but I highly suspect one-night stands, prostitutes and such are going to fall under the sexual immorality category. Marriage is an integral part of it, and an 'outlet' for sex. Nowadays, it's nearly impossible to pull 'no sex until married' stuff off. Maybe if the whole society did it, like the Quakers or Mennonites. It all runs together so it's hard to take a snapshot of an American family and judge them.

Jesus Christ himself was about the most alpha of males there was, and he didn't nail any women.

 

[speed dawg]

Really? Well because its a old document that i use to wipe my ass with

Religion is for weak people

We're all weak at the end of the day, pal. Show me your strengths and I'll point out double the weaknesses. At some point you are going to realize (or already have, but are just trying to be hard) that you can't control everything and you need something else.

I am not rationalizing being weak, keep that in mind.

 

[@Jonanthony]

So not sure how serious this thread is ;or how this ended here but

1) Biblebelt is in fact representative of a geaographical region..

2) the issue of religion n fornication are clearly incompatible.. Jesus remained celebate throughout his life ...

3) For actual DJ related materials refer to Judges 16 ( for those who GAF).. #Samson was in immense shape... He was the strongest man ever to live by a country mile... So he bangs a treacherous woman n it worked out so well for him. This moral tale displays the bible warns ALL MEN be aware of those batches or u be paying..

4) But as suggested already SS probably not the place for such discussions ,or at least here in this board (#anything else).