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How bad is internet dating in the USA? This bad!

MatureDJ

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http://yahoo.match.com/cp.aspx?cpp=/cppp/yahoo/article.html&articleid=6940&ER=sessiontimeout

I posted a clear head shot of myself, filled out a questionnaire and developed a profile:

GolfyGal, 49
Let’s have fun!
Smart, trim professional with kind heart and ready laugh enjoys being active and sociable. If you’re looking for a well-rounded, happy companion, I’ll suit you to a tee.

I hoped to get a few good responses, which was better luck than I was having meeting men on my own or with friends trying to fix me up. (There was no way I was going to hit the singles bars at my age.) When I turned on the computer, I was astounded — 84 men had emailed me! My feminine ego, which had taken some hard lumps, soared. (My 58-year-old friend Hildy felt the same excitement when her ad generated 235 responses overnight.)
OK, so here is a woman whose age and parent status should have caused her to have low sexual market value (OK, by being slender, that does place her in a higher market position), yet she was inundated with responses, and thus she could afford to be picky.
 

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Picky...among 84 men actively seeking women on an online dating site.

Kind of like when Osama tells the suicide bomber to expect 72 virgins, but when he gets to Paradise, he finds himself at a Star Trek convention. ;)

How long before the same woman posts a message saying how she went through 84 men and they all sucked, leading her to believe that ALL men are worthless?

I love the internet. :D
 

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Kind of like when Osama tells the suicide bomber to expect 72 virgins, but when he gets to Paradise, he finds himself at a Star Trek convention.
Paradise is a Star Trek convention?

Anyway, I suppose it's nice that here's someone who didn't have much luck in the dating pool but was able to find a place where she was able to get some attention. Even if it does just probably mean that there are a lot of desperate men out there.

Honestly, she didn't have a bad profile (though I know nothing about online dating). Just including the word "trim" in there probably got her the bulk of the responses (I meant because she was slim, I wasn't going for the pun).
 

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The lesson to be learned, as I see it, is that being a "high valued male" is dependent on the venue. Even without money and status, a man can surely reposition himself into a place of high social worth simply by changing the venue.

Here we have a woman that, according to this site, should have extremely low marketability. Of course, I doubt she cares what sosuave thinks, and why should she? She successfully found a strategy that placed her in a position of high value.

The challenge for US, then, is to do the same. Certainly, online dating is not the way to stand out for men. However, yoga classes, art classes, volunteer work, etc. are all excellent ways to increase your marketability.

The truth is, if you're a masculine male that goes to a traditional "feminine" venue, you will score WAY more than any of your clubbing buddies. These venues are untapped because the average guy is so petrified of being thought of as effeminate. Suck it up and take a dance class, for crying out loud! It is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Yes, things like money and status matter when we talk about value, but they're not nearly important as the context in which you are evaluated. Do online dating and you will be reduced to a spreadsheet of stats. Go to a meat market and you will be reduced to one dude out of 200. Go somewhere that places you at the center of positive attention and you will receive unconditional high regard. Marketing 101.
 

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I have an idea: How about create a fake account of a hot woman on one of these sites and see a whole variety of AFC responses.
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
The lesson to be learned, as I see it, is that being a "high valued male" is dependent on the venue. Even without money and status, a man can surely reposition himself into a place of high social worth simply by changing the venue.

Here we have a woman that, according to this site, should have extremely low marketability. Of course, I doubt she cares what sosuave thinks, and why should she? She successfully found a strategy that placed her in a position of high value.

The challenge for US, then, is to do the same. Certainly, online dating is not the way to stand out for men. However, yoga classes, art classes, volunteer work, etc. are all excellent ways to increase your marketability.

The truth is, if you're a masculine male that goes to a traditional "feminine" venue, you will score WAY more than any of your clubbing buddies. These venues are untapped because the average guy is so petrified of being thought of as effeminate. Suck it up and take a dance class, for crying out loud! It is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Yes, things like money and status matter when we talk about value, but they're not nearly important as the context in which you are evaluated. Do online dating and you will be reduced to a spreadsheet of stats. Go to a meat market and you will be reduced to one dude out of 200. Go somewhere that places you at the center of positive attention and you will receive unconditional high regard. Marketing 101.
you know, I have been thinking of that myself too. I am a 26 year old college student that looks and acts much more confident than the 18 to 24 year olds there. It seems like cute girls pay a little more attention to me there than anywhere else.
 

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This is why I just spam every decent looking girl. I usually get a few replies back and that's when the game starts. I don't even look at their profile unless they reply to my spam.
 

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Bluntmaster said:
This is why I just spam every decent looking girl. I usually get a few replies back and that's when the game starts. I don't even look at their profile unless they reply to my spam.

Bluntmaster's got it right. Why waste time reading profiles when in reality we don't have one attached to our bodies. Spam them with a funny intro email and let the ones who respond be the ones you get into correspondance with. Then go into things on their profile and bust on them about it. Too many "agreeable", white knight, sugar daddies, look at my chest dudes on those sites to waste time reading profiles and writing "thoughtful" 'missives' to these women. Whoever's on those sites needs to think of funny creative ways to spam them Emeril Lagasse "Baammm!" style, and serve them a nice dish of humor for them to feast on first. If they respond then it's game on, if not keep it movin!
 

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Jeffst1980 said:
The truth is, if you're a masculine male that goes to a traditional "feminine" venue, you will score WAY more than any of your clubbing buddies.
Ahh, Jeff just revealed some golden wisdom.
I have been pulling HBs in ballroom and latin dance classes for 20 years while most of you chumps have been cruising bars and pubs.
It is easy work because men are in the minority.
Secondly ,women will compete and approach YOU on the floor because they need a partner to learn .
Cha cha cha .
 

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From what I've heard, guys outnumber girls on most online dating sites by about 10:1. Think about it, it's just too easy for even an average 4-5 girl to find dates, so they don't have to resort to going online. Online you're mostly going to find fatties, nutcases, desperate women with low self-esteem, and attention *****s. This is what I've observed with trying to help a couple of friends who are doing the online thing.

Then you have others with unrealisitc expectations. I remember we saw this one profile where this chick listed the following requirements: must have at least a master's degree, can speak at least 3 languages, drives a German luxury car, is at least 6'6" tall, must have black hair & only blue or brown eyes, must own his own home in Chesterfield, Ladue, or Town & Country. The locations she listed for home ownership requirement are places where starter homes begin at around $1,000,000. I think that chick will be single for a LONG time. :crackup:
 

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Totally agree. Find target-rich venues. My group at work go to a quarterly offsite and we rotate who decides where and what. This time a woman planned it and we went to one of those pottery places where you buy the ceramic you want and paint it, and they fire it. None of the guys in our group was thrilled.

But when we got there, the place was filled with great looking women of all ages. I will be going back on my own!

Jeffst1980 said:
The lesson to be learned, as I see it, is that being a "high valued male" is dependent on the venue. Even without money and status, a man can surely reposition himself into a place of high social worth simply by changing the venue.

Here we have a woman that, according to this site, should have extremely low marketability. Of course, I doubt she cares what sosuave thinks, and why should she? She successfully found a strategy that placed her in a position of high value.

The challenge for US, then, is to do the same. Certainly, online dating is not the way to stand out for men. However, yoga classes, art classes, volunteer work, etc. are all excellent ways to increase your marketability.

The truth is, if you're a masculine male that goes to a traditional "feminine" venue, you will score WAY more than any of your clubbing buddies. These venues are untapped because the average guy is so petrified of being thought of as effeminate. Suck it up and take a dance class, for crying out loud! It is like shooting fish in a barrel.

Yes, things like money and status matter when we talk about value, but they're not nearly important as the context in which you are evaluated. Do online dating and you will be reduced to a spreadsheet of stats. Go to a meat market and you will be reduced to one dude out of 200. Go somewhere that places you at the center of positive attention and you will receive unconditional high regard. Marketing 101.
 

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In my experience, the most interesting girls online are the ones that can respond to your first witty e-mail with something interesting.

If she doesn't take it with the humour intended then chances are that she either isn't interested because of your looks or (gasp!) doesn't have a sense of humour.

Probably worth mentioning though that I gave online dating up some time back.

The ROI (roots out of the investment) wasn't anywhere as good as in real life.
 
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