EyeBRollin
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How alphas handle cheating
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mrgoodstuff
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Well then why thw females acting like guys nowadays? They are cheating to fit in with their friends. They are not usually getting a better guy for themselves. They are getting fresh dyck for the night thats it.
Both sides of the fence is correct here.
On one side @EyeBRollin is right. When a man gains admiration and respect of a woman, offering her redemption through his strength of character, principles and way of life, she will be in complete thrall of such a man.
When a man has this capability then he can turn any women, a prostitute, a hoe or any women he desires. The differences is only the level of intensity he has to put in towards achieving it.
This has been done numerous times. It's all around you. Western cult leaders or even gangland leaders are prime examples. Their overwhelming masculinity plus their ideologies has both staying and pulling power.
On the other side of the fence.
If another man such as the one I portrayed above comes into the picture then ALL women will be subjected to his frame and be pulled into it.
In this case then the stronger of the 2 will be the deciding factor on her cheating or not.
Both school of thoughts here are correct and wrong at the same time.
With this knowledge, it can be abused to chain women to a man, judiciously apply what you're learned. Take baby steps towards that direction and dont rush, change ur inner self 1st.
On one side @EyeBRollin is right. When a man gains admiration and respect of a woman, offering her redemption through his strength of character, principles and way of life, she will be in complete thrall of such a man.
When a man has this capability then he can turn any women, a prostitute, a hoe or any women he desires. The differences is only the level of intensity he has to put in towards achieving it.
This has been done numerous times. It's all around you. Western cult leaders or even gangland leaders are prime examples. Their overwhelming masculinity plus their ideologies has both staying and pulling power.
On the other side of the fence.
If another man such as the one I portrayed above comes into the picture then ALL women will be subjected to his frame and be pulled into it.
In this case then the stronger of the 2 will be the deciding factor on her cheating or not.
Both school of thoughts here are correct and wrong at the same time.
With this knowledge, it can be abused to chain women to a man, judiciously apply what you're learned. Take baby steps towards that direction and dont rush, change ur inner self 1st.
Your speaking more on a "branch swinging" type of cheating which of course would be based on the new guy being better than the current bf. True.
But A girl going to a club and having a one night stand while she's out of town with her girls has nothing to do with her current bf and has more to do with her character.
Think about it, she's banging a random guy she only known for a night, how is she going to decipher him being better than her current bf in a one night time span lol, also once she's done guess what? She's still going back home to her current boyfriend, it's not like she plans on leaving her bf for some random guy she just met.
Your speaking more so on a girl meeting a new guy and after seeing him for awhile she eventually leaves her current bf for him.
I'm talking about her going out and randomly cheating AKA having fun lol she doesn't leave her bf for another guy she just does her little thing on the side.
I know exactly what you mean. Girl A or Girl B it's all the same.
Not many man can achieved what I've stated above.
I can see that capacity within you, theres a difference between you and many here. Perhaps you could. To do so requires vast knowledge, life experiences and a very strong frame that induces ur women to mould themselves within that frame, much like a nun does within the frame of Jesus (that's an example). It is done even without Jesus being physically present. Nuns do come from a variety of backgrounds and characters - some were hoes or even prostitutes etc. So you see, those women that cheated with their GNO escapades were never in their man's frame to begin with. They were operating fully within their own frames - the feminine biological imperative.
What I've mentioned in my above 1st post applies to ALL women regardless of upbringing or character.
You'll soon realise this Chi Town.
MillionBillionaire
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This thread is too good to browse while at work.
You guys got it all wrong thinking in terms of "Alpha" "Beta."
You need to think in terms of WAR. Seduction is warfare for women, they even got the war paint and everything.
Why did the woman cheat? Because we are at war, there are no rules, only self interests.
The day I changed my perspective, life got much easier and now **** bitchhhes do makes sense. No longer shocked or confused... IT'S ALL WAR.
You guys got it all wrong thinking in terms of "Alpha" "Beta."
You need to think in terms of WAR. Seduction is warfare for women, they even got the war paint and everything.
Why did the woman cheat? Because we are at war, there are no rules, only self interests.
The day I changed my perspective, life got much easier and now **** bitchhhes do makes sense. No longer shocked or confused... IT'S ALL WAR.
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AJ84
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That’s not true. Sorry it just isn’t. Some women just don’t care how perfect you are, they can’t bond no matter how interested they are in you. There are whole threads on this.
It’s surprising that this is even a debate. I think it also sets up men to think they have to be 100% on and gaming and pushing all her right buttons 24/7 or she will run out and f**k some random guy the second he’s not at 100%. That’s not even sustainable. Who wants to be on all the time like that? Half of it will just be an act anyway because no guy is going to be 100% perfect in maintaining interest level all of the time. Not realistic at all and sounds like a demanding full time job rather than something that should actually be enjoyable for a guy.
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Let me break things down for a few of you who arent even close to being an alpha mindset:
1.) Alpha males really dont get cheated on. They may have a plate or woman who cheats, but an alpha has the abundance mindset and already knows that she is easily replaceable and there are many other women out there as good or better than a woman who cheats.
2.) All women are susceptible to cheat. Whether they are just easy wh0res, thing they found a better male (even at times a better alpha male), it really doesnt matter.
3.) An alpha male and most red pill males understand how quickly things can unravel with a woman and we look at women as being "borrowed" and never "owned". We understand that statistically relationships in today's society have a very low chance of lasting a lengthy time and we are not searching for "THE ONE". Therefore, we have abundance and look after ourselves first and foremost. We do things that benefit us when it comes to women and put getting what we want first so we never set ourselves up to get completely torn up if a woman goes a different direction than we want her to (as in stops banging us).
You only feel "cheated" if you have heavily invested in something/someone and it goes south. Therefore as you spin plates you should be extremely careful through your screening to make sure that women are investing more than you and you are not investing heavily into someone until they prove they are worthy.
4.) As an alpha male or true red pill male, the best response to cheating or any other severely disrespectful action from a woman is this:
Bounce her to the side and dont look back. No discussion, no rationalizing the situation. No demoting her to a plate or any other type of discipline that involves keeping her around at any capacity. She did it, you drop her, find more women, deuces. Its called self worth and self respect.
How can you ever increase your SMV if you are a doormat and dont have high standards for yourself?
Remember that people will show you how they wish to be treated. You will also show people how you want to be treated whether its good or bad.
1.) Alpha males really dont get cheated on. They may have a plate or woman who cheats, but an alpha has the abundance mindset and already knows that she is easily replaceable and there are many other women out there as good or better than a woman who cheats.
2.) All women are susceptible to cheat. Whether they are just easy wh0res, thing they found a better male (even at times a better alpha male), it really doesnt matter.
3.) An alpha male and most red pill males understand how quickly things can unravel with a woman and we look at women as being "borrowed" and never "owned". We understand that statistically relationships in today's society have a very low chance of lasting a lengthy time and we are not searching for "THE ONE". Therefore, we have abundance and look after ourselves first and foremost. We do things that benefit us when it comes to women and put getting what we want first so we never set ourselves up to get completely torn up if a woman goes a different direction than we want her to (as in stops banging us).
You only feel "cheated" if you have heavily invested in something/someone and it goes south. Therefore as you spin plates you should be extremely careful through your screening to make sure that women are investing more than you and you are not investing heavily into someone until they prove they are worthy.
4.) As an alpha male or true red pill male, the best response to cheating or any other severely disrespectful action from a woman is this:
Bounce her to the side and dont look back. No discussion, no rationalizing the situation. No demoting her to a plate or any other type of discipline that involves keeping her around at any capacity. She did it, you drop her, find more women, deuces. Its called self worth and self respect.
How can you ever increase your SMV if you are a doormat and dont have high standards for yourself?
Remember that people will show you how they wish to be treated. You will also show people how you want to be treated whether its good or bad.
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AJ84
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I mean any guy Spaz. . Some women are just looking out for themselves. Some men are too. There are selfish self centred people out there who just aren’t relationship material.
Women are not programmable robots. They will either buy into what a guy is putting out there or they won’t. Your notion of being able to transform any woman into a devoted gf who moulds into your frame seems like a fantasy to me.
And based on your posts, you’re dating women in the Philippines and Thailand right? Definitely an easier market where men have much more options for women, but these are places where women have perfected the male ego stroke for resource extraction game and they will be anything you want them to be for the right price. Maybe your fantasy is a reality there, but what you can accomplish there is much harder to do in western countries where women have financial independence, more rights and can rely on a welfare state to provide for them if needed.
Women are not programmable robots. They will either buy into what a guy is putting out there or they won’t. Your notion of being able to transform any woman into a devoted gf who moulds into your frame seems like a fantasy to me.
And based on your posts, you’re dating women in the Philippines and Thailand right? Definitely an easier market where men have much more options for women, but these are places where women have perfected the male ego stroke for resource extraction game and they will be anything you want them to be for the right price. Maybe your fantasy is a reality there, but what you can accomplish there is much harder to do in western countries where women have financial independence, more rights and can rely on a welfare state to provide for them if needed.
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AJ84
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If a guy does everything in his power to keep her interest sky high, 24/7, where is he finding the time to focus on his own stuff outside of her? Whether it’s applying dread or neg or mystery man or the other PUA stuff, by making an effort to do it to maintain a high level of interest, he’s actually making her his priority by doing that. And that to me is operating 100% in her frame.
Not saying that guys should never try but have stuff going on in life that’s more important than her. That’s the best msg for any woman, really, that she’s not your priority 24/7. I honestly think that’s all you need to do, not neg or all that BS, but just having an actual genuine interest outside of women. Still no gaurantees but it helps weed out the selfish and entitled too. It also leaves you with more of yourself if the relationship ends.
Not saying that guys should never try but have stuff going on in life that’s more important than her. That’s the best msg for any woman, really, that she’s not your priority 24/7. I honestly think that’s all you need to do, not neg or all that BS, but just having an actual genuine interest outside of women. Still no gaurantees but it helps weed out the selfish and entitled too. It also leaves you with more of yourself if the relationship ends.
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AJ84
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I find more men than women have solitary hobbies, women do a lot of socializing and are definitely more social but less of them do their own things on their own. Hell we even go to the bathroom together I mean wtf right lol. Relieving boredom by hanging out with each other is common with us (I’m bored come over and watch TV with me like really, I can’t watch TV on my own?) it’s sad I know haha. I would say there is an aspect of socializing to fill a void that we don’t learn how to fill on our own and looking to others to entertain us.
I think that has something to do with it LA. When she meets a guy she turn’s much of her social energy onto that guy (and less on their friends) and expects him to socialize and entertain in the same way and of course it’s different right? You don’t want to engage in an hour long conversation about lady stuff right?
So they get ‘bored’ when it could be more the case that they placed unrealistic expectations onto you.
This is why it’s important for women to maintain friendships and whatever other interests they have when they are in a relationship, so they don’t expect the guy to fill the void. And you can watch the game or go for a run without us in your face hahaha.
There’s actually funny YouTube clip on how girlfriends irritate their boyfriends. I’ll try to find it.
Women who have their own passions that don’t involve interacting with other people seem to be less bored because they know how to enjoy their own company and aren’t always relying on others to stimulate them. I’m thinking like photography, fishing, reading even.
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You're not taking into account individual personality or character. Also, you're assuming that you have control over a woman's interest level. You can influence it, but you can't control it, people have free will. I'm sure you are flat out wrong on this. However, if this works for you as a philosophy of life, have at it.
You can influence some of the people some of the time, but you can't control all of the people all of the time.
mrgoodstuff
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So her lizard brain isnt going to go into effect when shes hanging with her girls and drinking? Mirror neurons... They start to mimic their group without even being aware.
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Perfectly summarised
That's the feminine imperative. And yes, most men end up doing that, chasing...
What I'm talking abt is totally different and opposite of that narrative.
All women r looking out for themselves. The end. It's the female biological imperative, spin it anyhow it remains the same.
Only men has the capacity to die for another base on friendship, duty, principles and a slew of ideologies that appeals to him. And this is men's greatest gift and one might add his greatest weakness.
Thailand? Philippines? You forgot to add Sweden, Australia, Singapore, Kuala Lumper, Tokyo, Korea, London, Jakarta and once in New York. Theres more odd countries but lets stop there. There's no difference.
Here's a little tidbit for you to consider as to why I can say what I say here with confidence, many months ago I've posted on this forum that I used to owned night clubs, i left out some of the juicier parts of it, besides doing business with banned items I was also running women...
Now, no need for anyone here to get all upset, it's all in the past, I don't use fear nor I do I monitor any women as many has reduced themselves to. I did it exactly like I mentioned in my above posts. But that's business. And in my personal life I do the same. It's not techniques used on women, it's the man, when he interacts with the world that pulls people in.
This is what you don't understand (which is perfectly normal with you being a woman) and many here doesn't either. You're all still playing within the feminine imperative - that the purpose of men, is to be supplicant towards women wants and needs. Those men feel they need to impress women. Those men don't lead, they think they are leading but for all intents and purposes they r mere followers.
And that's why men here continously always inadvertently ends up the same with each and every relationship they have or will have.
I can easily predict every man's future outcome by how they think and when they post their thoughts on here, they open themselves up for me to categorise them. And there's times that i will engage some directly whom I see some promise in them... (that's another story huh).
I could even predict yours AJ...(PM me, and you'll might be surprised of what I know).
And perhaps that's why I don't even read Rollo or believe in hypergamy. And I did mentioned a few times here, some things are just not for all men to learn and acquire, if they manage to understand my meaning then they must act responsibly as what I've said here can be abused.
You talk of programming..much like training a man to be gentled (the feminine imperative is programming).
I talk of leadership...the kind that inspires and empowers. The leadership that gains respect and admiration.
There's a difference AJ.
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AJ84
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If I didn’t read your posts bragging about things like having offspring ‘out there somewhere’ like it’s cool to spread your seed and move on like the lion king in the jungle, and how any woman can be transformed into whorshipping a guy, and how women enjoy being raped, and your claim that you can predict anyone’s future, and your warning that the knowledge you bestow has to be handled with care or it could be abused (like it’s the bible or something), then I would take you more seriously.
But I can’t, and I apologize for that. Some of what you say resonates with me, but the whole Vagina Whisperer/ preacher stuff is weird, and attributing all opposing views as being the female imperiative gets old.
All the best to you though.
mrgoodstuff
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You dont think some men have a party in their pants and ladies dont get hooked?
Not trying to convince you of anything.
Neither am I here for teach you anything.
I'm also not interested to know abt the wet fantasies u r having by participating in a men's only forum. But if it helps, by all means enjoy it.
If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.
Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.
This will quickly drive all women away from you.
And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.