Hot... and crazy

[OnTheWayUp]

Gentlemen,

Some of you may be familiar with this famous sketch from "How I met your mother:" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zADosF3XoQ. The idea put forward, somewhat humourously of course, is that men typically tolerate a "crazy" woman provided she is sufficiently good looking. This standard male behaviour pattern is something that rings true for me if I look at my friends. There is also an implicit assumption that hot girls tend to be a bit crazy- something else that seems to be true to life.

One of the two girls I'm currently seeing is both hotter and crazier than anyone I've been with in the past. She is 20yo, in great physical shape, a fantastic lover and very compliant in her actions when it comes to responding to my date requests. So far so good.

However, she is also absolutely crazy. I'm a pretty funny guy, having done a bit of stand up in the past, and like to crack jokes and laugh at myself and other people. But this girl will literally turn everything into a joke, and they're not always funny. Examples:

I try to move her around in bed, and she doesn't respond/ tightens up then laughs at me for being a weakling.

We are in the shower making out, and she randomly starts throwing water in my eyes.

Her latest response to my message saying we should meet up involved her telling me how much she hated my guts, and then agreeing enthusiastically.

Sometimes when we're talking in bed she will randomly get an uncontrollable fit of the giggles, for no apparent reason whatsoever.

She has a female friend who is very ugly and a bit of a social reject, and likes to compare me to her.

I'm currently enjoying the casual sex for what it is and am not necessarily looking to start anything longer term with this girl, but this is a level of craziness that I have not encountered before, and something I am filing as a red flag, all the other positives (especially looks, femininity and compliance) notwithstanding. This girl had a pretty tough childhood (she was very badly bullied at school) and has been hurt by player types in the past, and my feeling is that this form of behaviour is just an extreme method of flirting and/ or a sign of trying too hard as a result of low self-esteem. It could also just be immaturity- she is only 20.

Has anyone else had any similar experiences?

 

[floydb25]

I have never met a hot woman who wasn't either:

1.) Crazy
2.) Retarded
3.) A *****
4.) Shallow
5.) Annoying
6.) All of the above

So no, you're not alone. These are things you should almost expect going in. They almost always have issues, and awful past experiences.

 

[PDubb75]

LOL, Not sure if you saw the monster of a thread I created on my ex.. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=187684&highlight=ex-husband

She made my friends and I reference that HIMYM episode on a daily basis. You just described her perfectly with the description of your girl. Except for the fact she was nearly 30, and insanely immature (even though she would complain it was everyone ELSE who was immature). So, feel free to chalk it up to immaturity, but it may not have anything to do with age.

 

[metoo]

if so, you aint looking overseas, guys. Try CherryBlossoms.com.

 

[Iceberg]

I'm currently enjoying the casual sex for what it is and am not necessarily looking to start anything longer term with this girl, but this is a level of craziness that I have not encountered before, and something I am filing as a red flag, all the other positives (especially looks, femininity and compliance) notwithstanding. This girl had a pretty tough childhood (she was very badly bullied at school) and has been hurt by player types in the past, and my feeling is that this form of behaviour is just an extreme method of flirting and/ or a sign of trying too hard as a result of low self-esteem. It could also just be immaturity- she is only 20.

Has anyone else had any similar experiences?

Hell yes I have.

My advice is this: Don't even bother trying to understand. Maybe her past is the catalyst for this. Or maybe she's just born to be a nutcase. You'd have better luck flying to the moon than figuring out what goes on in this girl's head.

Some people might tell you to run away. I won't go that far. Just remain logical about this...She's cute. You're enjoying her sexually. You do NOT expect a relationship with her. Because you know that it would destroy you.

But again, do not try to justify her craziness by assuming there's a reason for it (ex boyfriends, family, depression, etc). The reasons don't matter. Just how it impacts you. Once it starts to bring you down, eject.

 

[floydb25]

Hell yes I have.

My advice is this: Don't even bother trying to understand. Maybe her past is the catalyst for this. Or maybe she's just born to be a nutcase. You'd have better luck flying to the moon than figuring out what goes on in this girl's head.

Some people might tell you to run away. I won't go that far. Just remain logical about this...She's cute. You're enjoying her sexually. You do NOT expect a relationship with her. Because you know that it would destroy you.

But again, do not try to justify her craziness by assuming there's a reason for it (ex boyfriends, family, depression, etc). The reasons don't matter. Just how it impacts you. Once it starts to bring you down, eject.

This is a great post. My mindset is the same way these days. If you try to understand a crazy person - you're just going to end up going crazy. Just accept them the way they are, and proceed from there.

I think a lot of people try to dig deep and understand the how's and why's - when it really doesn't matter. They're never going to change, and you're never going to figure them out, so why bother? You're just going to end up confused and bitter. People are the way they are. Some good, some bad, some crazy, some stupid... That's life.

When you try to understand why - you enter into sympathetic mode, and excuse everything they do wrong... Usually try to change them. Bad idea. Just accept them at face value. You don't need to know anymore.

 

[chocococonut]

There is a direct relationship between how hot a girl is and how crazy she can be. Hot girls tend to have a lot more experience from AFCs approaching them and have learned how to deflect. As a result, they become so absorbed into this lifestyle that this is how they treat EVERY man. They bag on every guy, act like nothing phases them, and generally has a DGAF attitude.

The symptoms grow worse when they HAVE found ONE special dude to give her heart to. Finally, a guy who she wants to become a decent lady for...Then, their heart gets broken. ( I tend to notice that hot girls get cheated on...a lot). After that, they become bitter, furious, and REALLY REALLY hates men. THeir insecurity levels go through the roof , to a new "Crazy".

In the end, the hottest girls may be the most insecure and needy of them all because they feel no one appreciates them for anything other than their looks and that all men are scum.

Of course, they are not impossible to conquer, but just a lot tougher to take down and maintain as well. Its always a bumpy ride with this kind.