Honesty regarding interviews?

BeTheChange

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Been at my current place for less than a year, but looking to leave for a number of reasons.

I am trying to get a transfer into another department that I find more interesting and better suited to my long term career goals. If I don't get this transfer then I'll look to leave.

My question is, if I do decide to go should I be honest with my immediate superior (manager). We had a frank chat and she appreciates that I am looking to get this transfer. My thinking is that it's better for me to be honest and let her know that I will make the time up, if I need to leave early or come in late. There's only so many "doctor's appointments" a man can have and I intend to hit the job applications pretty hard if this transfer doesn't materialise.
 

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Since you have desire and ambition to move up in your career, do whatever it takes to get there. Maybe ask for an interview on a Saturday because 'you're the project lead and getting time off now just isn't happening' or something else similar. Another thing to do to weed out time wasting interviewers is ask within the first couple minutes how much they're willing to pay. If it doesn't meet what you're looking for, then hang up and be thankful you didn't allow them to waste your time.

I wouldn't keep your immediate superior too well informed on what all is going on though. If you find something, turn in your notice and that's all they need to know. I've seen a number of times where it backfired and the employee thought he and his manager got along really well.
 

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You know the saying "honesty goes a long way"? It's no bull****, I've had several interviews where I was honest about my weak points, even weak points that were considered as a no-go for that particular job. In the end they still hired me. If you lie about such points and they come out afterwards, they'll bite you in the a**.

I've had people lie in interviews or "practicing" for certain tests. They passed initially, but it got to them in the end and they wasted their and others time and money.

Tell your manager indeed, you never know she'll get in a good word in that other department.
 

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Since you have desire and ambition to move up in your career, do whatever it takes to get there. Maybe ask for an interview on a Saturday because 'you're the project lead and getting time off now just isn't happening' or something else similar. Another thing to do to weed out time wasting interviewers is ask within the first couple minutes how much they're willing to pay. If it doesn't meet what you're looking for, then hang up and be thankful you didn't allow them to waste your time.

I wouldn't keep your immediate superior too well informed on what all is going on though. If you find something, turn in your notice and that's all they need to know. I've seen a number of times where it backfired and the employee thought he and his manager got along really well.
This just wouldn't be plausible when other applicants won't be making the same demands (e.g. Saturday interviews)

I have a meeting with one of the Partners on Thursday and if it doesn't look like I am getting this transfer (which is looking increasingly unlikely) I will have to be honest with my Manager because there's no way I can keep up a perpetual list of excuses if I am interviewing 2 - 3 times a week, and I will be since I want to get the hell out of my current department as it is stifling my career.
 

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Like you said though, there's only so many times the doctor's excuse can be used. I'd just start calling in sick on days of important interviews. Honestly though, if you're having 2-3 interviews per week (for how many weeks?) that seems like you're wasting your time. I don't know what line of work you're in, but for some people there comes a point in your career where your skills, knowledge and experience are in demand and you can be choosy...just as if you were drowning in pu$$y. No need to fvck every single one of those women, you get to choose who gets your time and attention. This is one reason why I suggested that if you keep getting phone calls to interview at a lot of places, you need to cut down on all the white noise and immediately ask what their salary range is. Too low, end the call. Will save you a lot of time.
 

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Like you said though, there's only so many times the doctor's excuse can be used. I'd just start calling in sick on days of important interviews. Honestly though, if you're having 2-3 interviews per week (for how many weeks?) that seems like you're wasting your time. I don't know what line of work you're in, but for some people there comes a point in your career where your skills, knowledge and experience are in demand and you can be choosy...just as if you were drowning in pu$$y. No need to fvck every single one of those women, you get to choose who gets your time and attention. This is one reason why I suggested that if you keep getting phone calls to interview at a lot of places, you need to cut down on all the white noise and immediately ask what their salary range is. Too low, end the call. Will save you a lot of time.
Work in finance. Salary is not an issue. I always ask that off the bat since its headhunters I tend to deal with. Some places can have as many as 4 rounds of interview for na single role. That's just the nature of the beast for the industry I work with.

I dont really agree with the pvssy analogy. Sure i could walk into a job easily. But the best jobs will always be competitive and require a lot of rejection. I am only applying to the top jobs for my level. If I cut it down to 1 interview a week it could take me 6 months to find something.

Combine that with my urgency to leave (have about a 3 month window) and I don't see another option. Sick days are not ideal. I already had issues around my performance a few months back due to the fallout from my break up so don't need multiple sick days to make things worse.
 
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It also depends on the manager.... She might act all supportive but if she does not want you to leave because you're a good worker she will make it hard on you...
 

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I would be careful about talking to your current manager. if she wants to keep you she might talk you down to other managers. if you had performance issues earlier she might use that to say you were trouble if you leave so it doesn't look like people want to get out of her department. let's face it especially with a female manager she isn't going to give a single turd about your welfare. all she will care about is how your actions make her look
 
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