Holy Crap! Blatant racism in my philosophy text book!

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
And we should also petition to have the works of Plato, Shakespeare, Samuel Clemens and countless others from previous eras because they too have written things that could be considered offensive to people.

Yeah really.


The past wasnt so clean. Racism existed back then and wasnt kept in check.

yet many works that have racism still exist and are honoured as the many great works of literature. you need to be mature enough to see past a few bad words and see the piece of literature as a whole.
 

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by removing ti from the text, your only encouraging whites to be even more afraid of the n word and embolden blacks to think they will be even more justified in calling a white kid cracker. I say leave it in there for historical purposes.

but it would be nice to bann all racist words, not just the n one, but the c word as well.

and yeah, it is stupid for blacks to call eachother that as if its a greeting word, but when a white guy uses it, its racist. man thats dumb.
 

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exempting many minorities from punishment based on their race
Rethink what you just said and then look at the facts...

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Anyway, let me ask the white people on here a question ??

If you have ever been called a 'cracker' how does it make you feel ??

Now let me explain how it feels to be called a 'n i gger' (i've never been called one) but when I even HEAR the word it makes me feel like less than a human. I no longer feel intelligent or confident, it reduces me to an animal. I actually feel embarrassed and VERY insecure about myself when I hear the word...

If someone actually called me one to my face, I don't believe I would be angry but just saddened and paralyzed. That word is justification of a time when we were ANIMALS, whipped and beaten like dogs. Hung from tree branches like pests who needed to be exterminated. We were breed like ANIMALS... do you understand ?? Our women raped and ravaged while the husband looked on unable to do anything to save his family... his children sold at auction in front of his eyes...

That word isn't about racism, its a word that makes us seem like animals. That word truly effects me and its not even anger because I REALLY understand why it was used, anger is out of some misunderstood notion that the word shouldn't be used because its 'BAD', but in reality the word signals my people being less than human and I'm not angry at that, I'm saddened and ultimately embarrassed at myself when I hear that word.


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Cod3r said:
Rethink what you just said and then look at the facts...

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Anyway, let me ask the white people on here a question ??

If you have ever been called a 'cracker' how does it make you feel ??

Now let me explain how it feels to be called a 'n i gger' (i've never been called one) but when I even HEAR the word it makes me feel like less than a human. I no longer feel intelligent or confident, it reduces me to an animal. I actually feel embarrassed and VERY insecure about myself when I hear the word...

If someone actually called me one to my face, I don't believe I would be angry but just saddened and paralyzed. That word is justification of a time when we were ANIMALS, whipped and beaten like dogs. Hung from tree branches like pests who needed to be exterminated. We were breed like ANIMALS... do you understand ?? Our women raped and ravaged while the husband looked on unable to do anything to save his family... his children sold at auction in front of his eyes...

That word isn't about racism, its a word that makes us seem like animals. That word truly effects me and its not even anger because I REALLY understand why it was used, anger is out of some misunderstood notion that the word shouldn't be used because its 'BAD', but in reality the word signals my people being less than human and I'm not angry at that, I'm saddened and ultimately embarrassed at myself when I hear that word.


-Cod3r
i think white people are ready to destroy that word , but atm it is the blacks themselves that are keeping that word alive.... and they can spin it any way they like , but theyr not helping to take power away from that word , but actually giving it new life....

but also , il ask you , how do you think white people feel when they are called cracker or hunkey ?
i think some would feel like they are being viewed as racists , that the people calling them that think that they are dumb rednecks who treat other people like animals...
it can work both ways you know...

but racist slang will probably never go away , we live in a society were some people feel power and control by diminishing other people...some dont undertsandn the true meaning of the words , some use em to seem cool , some use em to actaully do harm...
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
And we should also petition to have the works of Plato, Shakespeare, Samuel Clemens and countless others from previous eras because they too have written things that could be considered offensive to people.
Thats not the same thing. He's talking about a current professor teaching classes and adding his own essay/spin to the primative original. Thats obviously not a direction professors should be leading anybody towards. It's very offensive to write, publish, and be taught to students who for the majority probably don't want to read that garbage. they are there to learn eduaction, not racist veiws and empowerment hints based on one race givin the natural superior DNA over another.
 

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Trojan said:
Thats not the same thing. He's talking about a current professor teaching classes and adding his own essay/spin to the primative original. Thats obviously not a direction professors should be leading anybody towards. It's very offensive to write, publish, and be taught to students who for the majority probably don't want to read that garbage. they are there to learn eduaction, not racist veiws and empowerment hints based on one race givin the natural superior DNA over another.
These were philosophical essays written in the 17th and 18th century which the professor exaggerated to make a point and to incite controversy to spur reflection. It's nothing different than the creator of reality shows hope to do to get ratings.

Professors frequently use this method but unfortunately there are always a couple of extremely politically correct students in class who cleans these works with their moral justice. More people are influenced by television shows on MTV than by this material, their cleansing efforts could be better used elsewhere.
 

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wait, did the book say negro or n*gger?
 

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Francisco d'Anconia said:
These were philosophical essays written in the 17th and 18th century which the professor exaggerated to make a point and to incite controversy to spur reflection. It's nothing different than the creator of reality shows hope to do to get ratings.

Professors frequently use this method but unfortunately there are always a couple of extremely politically correct students in class who cleans these works with their moral justice. More people are influenced by television shows on MTV than by this material, their cleansing efforts could be better used elsewhere.
Thats BS. No professor or going to write "ni99ers are not capable of feeling XXX" to spur reflection or create controversy so students can better understand what the man ment. It was absolutly clear to what the man was saying. " Hey, they might not understand how bigoted this man was by using negroes, let me throw my own spin and add ni99ers to further illustrate his point so there is no confusion or to see how the students will react now cause obviously what he said was not enough to stick." Please. This isnt your prime time show trying to boost ratings, its a racist professor that might be commiting career suicide if the right people find out about it.
 

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Thats BS. No professor or going to write "ni99ers are not capable of feeling XXX" ..
This is a prime example of what I was saying about some tunnel visioned PC zealot who can't see beyond their own morality. It was a translation of the original text. :rolleyes: Once you stop embellishing I'll continue the discussion.
 
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