Hi, I have been seeing progress till the point where going on dates where the hands holding comes. I cant really seem to get the courage to hhold a lady hands. I can bust her balls, challenge her opinions, make her laugh but just cant seems to have the balls to hold her hands or kiss her. Any bro can offer any tips or overcame this handicap in the past?
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NorwegianDJ
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I think I can remember back in the day when I was afraid to grab her hand. It was a scary thought. I think it's all about acting in spite of that fear and just do it. Take action, act through your own intentions. Several times I've known that this is the only way to do it, and I didn't. It felt BAD. But then I started doing it, even if I had to talk myself to it for minutes. It felt so GOOD. Just knowing that you acted in spite of the fear feels damn good, the outcome isn't even important, cause you KNOW that you are able to do it AGAIN and AGAIN. Just go out there and do it, be a man of action.
Rejection is better than regret.
Rejection is better than regret.
Escalate on high points in your interaction, especially when She does or says something that impresses you, so she knows you have a reason to like her. do a search on proper escalation. There are many good articles on it.
I have some great ideas that I ALWAYS use with all girls to hold their hands
after you build some comfort and you have teased her enough, its good to try some of this things
of course you still have to do it with confidence and authority showing you are leading and being a man... if not is just gonna be awkward and it won't work.
-if there is enough sparks before hand you can challenge her to some thumb wrestling.
- play hot hands.
look for cues or when she looks at her hands, watch, rings etc look for something so you can comment on it and take her hand while you are talking about it... example: this girl told me she played guitar, and I said how fingers sometimes get numb after a while of playing guitar, so I went to see her fingers and touchin her hand and commenting on her hand...
- after that proceed to do PALMISTRY, palm reading, read her hand tease her, read her lines and what they mean about her, do this a bit, she will love it, tease her... tell her "your line says its your lucky day, because you are going out with a handsome guy" and smile... ( you are touching and holding her hand while doing this)
-learn hand massage its called REFLEXOLOGY, and learn to give a hand massage... while you teach her about pressure points in the hand and how they connect with parts of her body.
once I've done these games, its only natural to hold her hand when we are walking together, I just reach out my hand, and she automatically reaches it and holds it like we are a date.... it works!!
BE CREATIVE!!!!!!
after you build some comfort and you have teased her enough, its good to try some of this things
of course you still have to do it with confidence and authority showing you are leading and being a man... if not is just gonna be awkward and it won't work.
-if there is enough sparks before hand you can challenge her to some thumb wrestling.
- play hot hands.
look for cues or when she looks at her hands, watch, rings etc look for something so you can comment on it and take her hand while you are talking about it... example: this girl told me she played guitar, and I said how fingers sometimes get numb after a while of playing guitar, so I went to see her fingers and touchin her hand and commenting on her hand...
- after that proceed to do PALMISTRY, palm reading, read her hand tease her, read her lines and what they mean about her, do this a bit, she will love it, tease her... tell her "your line says its your lucky day, because you are going out with a handsome guy" and smile... ( you are touching and holding her hand while doing this)
-learn hand massage its called REFLEXOLOGY, and learn to give a hand massage... while you teach her about pressure points in the hand and how they connect with parts of her body.
once I've done these games, its only natural to hold her hand when we are walking together, I just reach out my hand, and she automatically reaches it and holds it like we are a date.... it works!!
BE CREATIVE!!!!!!
can you elaborate san jose california?
how does one go from holding hands before kissing to being fuked....???
in my experience it only makes it more natural to kiss someone if you already holding hands.
but is not a rule, you can kiss before holding hands too.. Ive done that...
no big deal
either way does not lead to you getting Fuked.... you acting AFC leads to getting fuked
how does one go from holding hands before kissing to being fuked....???
in my experience it only makes it more natural to kiss someone if you already holding hands.
but is not a rule, you can kiss before holding hands too.. Ive done that...
no big deal
either way does not lead to you getting Fuked.... you acting AFC leads to getting fuked
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I believe he means that if this happens then there's a high chance you've been put into the friends category, not in all cases but there's a chance.pipe007 said:
In my experience the makeout always happens before the holding of hands
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Get her used to touching. When you're conversing with her, give her a few short touches on the arm as you're making verbal points to her. I was actually experimenting with that to great effect today.
I went to Starbucks with two young ladies from church who wanted my advice on certain things. I decided to practice, so I started to give them gestures of touching every once in a while. It was definitely outside my comfort zone and I didn't know how they would react.
Lo and behold, they started touching me on their own more and more. It was a doorway to rapport and they loved it.
Occasional touching demonstrates a lot to a woman. Most men are scared you-know-whatless to touch them, so it makes you stand out.
If you get her used to touching, hand-holding will be a natural progression and will feel right to her. Women respond well to what they think are natural progressions, even when we sly dogs manufacture them.
Also, you can take her to a place where there are rocks to climb on, perhaps the seashore if you're on the coast or some other natural place. You can then extend your hand to help her and she will gladly accept it.
Of course, all of the above are baby steps in order to help you along. In fact, the best move is the bold move of taking her hand just because you want to take her hand, but there is nothing wrong with being unsure and feeling your way through with those baby steps. Eventually you will be in such command of your situations that you will just boldly take her hand when the time is right for you. Not all will agree, but I'm a believer in baby steps to help conquer fear.
I went to Starbucks with two young ladies from church who wanted my advice on certain things. I decided to practice, so I started to give them gestures of touching every once in a while. It was definitely outside my comfort zone and I didn't know how they would react.
Lo and behold, they started touching me on their own more and more. It was a doorway to rapport and they loved it.
Occasional touching demonstrates a lot to a woman. Most men are scared you-know-whatless to touch them, so it makes you stand out.
If you get her used to touching, hand-holding will be a natural progression and will feel right to her. Women respond well to what they think are natural progressions, even when we sly dogs manufacture them.
Also, you can take her to a place where there are rocks to climb on, perhaps the seashore if you're on the coast or some other natural place. You can then extend your hand to help her and she will gladly accept it.
Of course, all of the above are baby steps in order to help you along. In fact, the best move is the bold move of taking her hand just because you want to take her hand, but there is nothing wrong with being unsure and feeling your way through with those baby steps. Eventually you will be in such command of your situations that you will just boldly take her hand when the time is right for you. Not all will agree, but I'm a believer in baby steps to help conquer fear.
exactly as long as you are confident, you can do whatever the hell you want.
I usually lead them before I kiss, by letting them hold my hand and I lead the way, they enjoy it.
done it with most girls I've dated, and its always worked good... it creates a bond when u hold their hand, easier to kiss them after.
I usually lead them before I kiss, by letting them hold my hand and I lead the way, they enjoy it.
done it with most girls I've dated, and its always worked good... it creates a bond when u hold their hand, easier to kiss them after.
This thread is disgusting.
You should all be culled.
Holding hands is lame. Just reach your arm out and have her hold onto it.
Is this the highschool forum? Holding hands before kissing? I am appalled.
Unless she just won the ****ing lottery... and even then, you still look like an idiot.
You should all be culled.
Holding hands is lame. Just reach your arm out and have her hold onto it.
Is this the highschool forum? Holding hands before kissing? I am appalled.
Unless she just won the ****ing lottery... and even then, you still look like an idiot.
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This is getting stupid. I hold hands as I please! I high-five and I fcking clasp their hands. I hug and hold their hands. I give handshakes and don't let go! Whoever that believes that holding someones hand before you faceraped her will get you doomed is just dumb. Of course you don't walk around hand in hand in an hour before you make out, but it's natural escalation.
backbreaker
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you havce the wrong outlook. You want to delay getting physical as long as possible becuase you don't want to risk her being turned off. The mentality you need to have is, you want to get physical as soon as possible, without being a creep of course, to weed out the real ones for the ones who are taking you. You go on a first date and you start rubbing her and reach for her hand and she is hesiant, you know you are wasting your time. In fact thank her lol. Move the fvck on withot wasting too many resources. Hell I 've given foot rubs on dates (you want to make a girl melt give her a foot rub). One girl I dated, was telling me before a particular date, like our 4th, she wanted to take things slow, she wasn't insa hurry. took her out to eat, was in a good mood, told her ot put her feet on my lap an just rubbed her feet the entire, on the way home she was like so you aren't dating anyone else right, I was like so are we dating now and she was like, you rubbed my feet lol, hell yea we are dating.
Anyway, get to the point. she is either in to you or she isn't.
Anyway, get to the point. she is either in to you or she isn't.
Atom Smasher
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Give the guy a break. He asked an honest question, and we all have to start somewhere. People come to this forum without a clue about game, so why chew him up and spit him out for asking a question consistent with his current level of development?
The hatred on this board (like any any other board) can really be discouraging. We should be encouraging and teaching each other rather than declaring threads and OPs to be "lame", especially when the kid asked an honest question.
When we stop the inter-community sniping and instead start working together and teaching, big things will happen on a societal level.
The hatred on this board (like any any other board) can really be discouraging. We should be encouraging and teaching each other rather than declaring threads and OPs to be "lame", especially when the kid asked an honest question.
When we stop the inter-community sniping and instead start working together and teaching, big things will happen on a societal level.