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Hitting the Wall

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A lot of you make me laugh when you claim that women over X age have no options except to sit at home and pet their cats. So here's a story of another case where its not as true as some of you make it out to be.

A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Not something I would ever do, but a lot of guys do. I'm just saying it happens more than a lot of you want to believe.

This is how pu$$y gets overinflated.
 

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The wall doesn't mean no options. It never did. It means less options for attractive woman and whom they can attract. It slides from anyone they want to no one.

You point out lower tear guys. Usually very beta, or just passed over until they get their chance. There might be a BP dude or two in there. This doesn't mean much. These dudes will always be around. They are easy commitment guys. Quick to marry and provide resources. What you describe is very common.

There are a class of older guys who are basically butlers who fix fences, clean gutters, cut grass, etc. When an older lady changes her status of FB, from married to single these guys come out of the wood work. Its never the guys that these older woman are interested. They hit the wall for those guys.

These guys range from around 35 - 75. They are classified as "drones who support the matriarcy", in the classic, the predatory female by rev Shannon.

This doesnt mean there's no wall. There are multiple walls beginning with epiphany when the back up guys becomes a real option to the final stage of invisibility around 60 or heavy wieght issues. . The wall is very real. The type/quality of guy a woman can interest steadily declines. Pamela Anderson can't attract the caliber of guy she could at say 20 - 30; 31 -45, 50+ . She'll hit the final stage that is invisibilty eventually, they all do.

There's a natural symmetry in this process since a woman of great beauty and sex appeal at the end of the cycle has an equivalent smv as the pimply faced 21 year old young man. Nature shows no mercy as that woman is useless in advancing our species, just as certain mens seed is deemed unsatisfactory from early in. Our clergymen will disagree with this view.
 

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I think A lotta men can provide this to a woman, but they don't have...a woman to begin with. So as soon as they get the opportunity to "qoute on qoute SIMP " they will so this wholeheartedly.

Tbh it does feels kinda good to be "that guy". It might even be a primal part in us men, the need to protect and provide.

About the wall: you know my opinion. I agree with @maturin , but I also think that he describes the wall in his(or her) most technical form, and from the perspective of the woman individually.

The general sexual wall however( for women)..tells us a different story. We might've been through a major cultural shift already where the wall is pushed back significantly. Combine this with the fact that most men struggle with dating and voilà; we end up in a situation where a 40 y.o woman can and will have as much abundance of men as a 20 y.o woman. Individually she might not have as many great options as before, but if she gets herself over this fact she can go back to enjoy her options like she always did..

The latter might also be applicable to men by the way, and it's probably needed as well; maybe some men need to let go of the narrative that a 30 y.o woman is " too old" because all it does is limit (some)/ a man's options. Some men need to accept that they will be dating older women. What's older? That's a case by case situation. For some men older will be 30, for others it might be 50..
 

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This one has more to do with the guy then the girl. But at least he doesn't just sit on his porch and rock.

Wall; no, not much of a wall. SVM range is real, and we know men will take low SMV over getting nothing. Sometimes its not driven by testosterone and is driven by need for communication. Higher test guys, can't see the low test guys behavior.

There is a HUGE range of ways. Most of it is controlled by chemicals.

Nothing new about an orbiter...

Different story if its a high test guy, and upper SMV. The ones she would be interested in.
 

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Shes a 5 here but in places like France, Amsterdam, Eastern Europe, Russia...etc....she wouldn't be any man's radar...she would have to get in shape and actually earn a guy's attention.

The guys in the West, especially America have to really lower their standards to get a date. I suggest you get some sort of side hustle going and learn how to make money online and get that passport out of there. Thank god when I go to the states I live in South Texas, near the border of Mexico and there's still plenty of feminine latinas and diverse women around who grew up in that traditional culture.
 

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I'm not sure this is anything to do with "the wall"

For a start loneliness is going to endemic In that age bracket as social circles will likely have been allowed to decay over the years

Once a man is bored enough anything becomes interesting ( why do you think gardening is so popular )

Relationships in this age bracket are going to be more geared towards companionship rather than basic attraction / sex

I see nothing In this story thats alarming or unusual
 

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My neighbor says hold my beer lol. She’s early 50s, party masculine voice, chubby, and acts like a Karen. Has multiple men from all range of ages and incomes come over to court her. One dude looks like one of those jacked Rogan bros with the viagra flush and drives a Lamborghini lol. The youngest dude looks like an Italian Romeo lol.
 

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The wall typically means that whatever "quality level" a woman has been used to attracting her whole life up til that points starts to drop off and she finds herself confused as to why only "lower quality" men compared to the ones she used to date are the only ones interested.

It can be very hard for them to mentally deal with, especially if they are generally attractive.
 

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South Texas is known for obesity.
Too much brisket :lol:
Brisket is less of an issue down in the South Texas border towns. The South Texas border towns by McAllen and Brownsville tend to have some the worst obesity rates.

A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Not something I would ever do, but a lot of guys do. I'm just saying it happens more than a lot of you want to believe.

This is how pu$$y gets overinflated.
I've said for a long time that The Wall is softer than most of the red pill community thinks that it is.

There's no good reason why 3 single males should be heavily pursuing that woman.
 

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A lot of you make me laugh when you claim that women over X age have no options except to sit at home and pet their cats. So here's a story of another case where its not as true as some of you make it out to be.

A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Not something I would ever do, but a lot of guys do. I'm just saying it happens more than a lot of you want to believe.

This is how pu$$y gets overinflated.
Hope springs eternal and infernal
 

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Too much brisket :lol:
Nah they literally eat a lot of Gorditas, Tacos, Flautas Tortas, burritos, beer, margs, and etc. I lived near a bar district and these Latinas would get sick and throw up on the street and it would be enough to be considered a body of water. It was so disgusting, and I lived in a Frat house.
 

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A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.
How do you know the guy had any sexual interest in her? As said above, he was likely lonely and wanted to go with someone. As for fixing the fence, maybe he needed practice.

I was out with some people for brunch, one woman I knew took me aside and said "Badboy89, the 46 year old single mother wants to be ALONE with you." I said "Why?" Same woman, if I had an extra hockey ticket, I would ask her to go with me 2 seconds. Not down for sexual relations with her, but I'm down with companionship with her. Now if that woman said "The 23 year old single never married no kids woman wants to be alone you." I would have said "OK"

In terms of the Wall with women, I don't think its not "never doing anything with a woman" I think when most men refer to the Wall, they refer to it in terms of sexual relations with a woman
 

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hey man…but in my area in South Texas, even…if there hot or cute, there not b:tchy femnazis like the city slickers upstate….there family minded, even God Conscious or traditional.

When they reject you, there nice about it. Here’s a couple of pics of some latinas Im dming.

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A lot of you make me laugh when you claim that women over X age have no options except to sit at home and pet their cats. So here's a story of another case where its not as true as some of you make it out to be.

A female I know very well is almost 50. This woman has a cute face, but is 25lbs over weight. Recently she had three of her single male neighbors offer to repair her fence that fell down. She took the first guy up on his offer and he barely charged her. A few days later he is asking her to go to a concert. She accepts. He picks her up in a limo for a concert that is over 1hour away.

Free weed, free alcohol, free concert, almost a free fence repair, and rode to the concert in style! This chic has no sexual interest in this guy. I wouldn't even call them friends.

Not something I would ever do, but a lot of guys do. I'm just saying it happens more than a lot of you want to believe.

This is how pu$$y gets overinflated.
My aunt is in her late 60’s and found a new man last year. Her inboxes for dating sites in the past decade have never been empty. I’ve met some men she’s been with. None were bums.

There is no wall.
 
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My aunt is in her late 60’s and found a new man last year. Her inboxes for dating sites in the past decade has never been empty. I’ve met some men she’s been with. None were bums.
My mom was on dating sites during the 2010s in her early 60s. She had more men pursuing her on dating websites as a woman in her early 60s as compared to the men pursuing her in her teens/early 20s in the pre-internet era.
 
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