"Hit the Gym" - Why?

[yuppaz]

I personally love working out w/ weights. It's a hobby and a constant challenge to eat cleat and enough and push myself to do more / heavier / better form. I do in fact do it to make my body look better and because I like it. I was fat (but not too bad) my whole life and only since deciding to get right and train have I been proud of my body. One thing though that I have noticed is that training doesn't help me improve / make me smarter in the work place. I think that I am a default leader for a lot of people (they normally look to me to decide, which isn't something I ASKED for, it just happened) which is a side effect of training and posture / inner game work. I think having more test now actually makes me worse at being analytical, no bs think I used to be smarter when I was more of a thinker and less of a doer. It has obviously helped with women, just today a little hottie called me "built" and we joked around at how we didn't like it when we saw ugly people with good looking ones, pretty shallow, but oh well. Anyway I think there IS a balance that needs to be in place, need to strive in all you do and live a social, healthy life where you do what you love and working hard for a result that you can see is a confidence booster (at least it is for me) and does make this success with women stuff a bit easier.

 

[Drum&Bass]

As a human being you are given a BODY. Your body in order to serve you well MUST BE MAINTAINED and DEVELOPED.

This is not a waste of time, rather a necessity.

 

[CarlitosWay]

The vast majority of guys at regular commercial gyms are just training in a (usually failed) attempt to get laid more, but some guys are more serious about actually getting strong. I'm in the latter group. There's a huge difference between training to look pretty at the beach vs. training to be able to move heavy **** around. If I only cared about looks I would just do curls + bench like most of the bros at commercial gyms.

Every person who walks into a gym trains for vanity in a way, everyone does it to a certain degree if you say not, you're full of **** or look like ****. Strength can be your goal, yet c'mon what guy wouldn't want to look great from all angles when he takes off his shirt and jeans?

Hate when people point out bodybuilders for trying to get bigger and look better as if others are not doing things to themselves out of vanity.

 

[mustfirstregister]

I go to the gym almost everyday.

 

[handle]

I go to the gym because I want to have sound sleep at night, more energy, and improved focus when studying... It helps with everything in my life. I don't really see any disadvantage to hitting the gym.

 

[Jitterbug]

If your idea of working out at the gym is some exercise in vanity of curling and posing in front of the mirror, you're working out all wrong.

 

[morepoonplease]

i'm training 5 days a week because i want to be healthy and strong.... ***** is just a side effect of working your ass off... what makes u think someone can't be jacked and have a successful job? u make it sound as if lifting takes up your entire life... i'm in school right now and yea i bounce at bars on weekends... ****ty job FOR NOW. once school is complete i'll be jack3d and have a great job... i'm only 20 y/o btw.

 

[spinaroonie]

Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.

I guess my displeasure lies in the way pvssy is dispensed.

I just got back from a club in which at least 3/4 of the dudes looked like they walked out of the set of the Jersey Shore. A bunch of Italian/Balkan/Persian looking dudes with short hair, muscles, and affliction shirts. I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.

Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.

I recall meeting a Chinese girl who'd been serious with a guy for several years. She boasted that he'd won a number of math and architectural awards in numerous competitions. She didn't care how tall he was, how big is biceps were, how many friends he had, how many other hot girls were after him. It was the basis of his achievements that drove her attraction - achievements that had a tangible net *positive* effect on society.

Now imagine if more girls were like this. Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?

Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?

Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.

 

[Tesl]

"rewarded" with pvssy??

Your way of thinking is totally screwed up. It's not about being rewarded for something, its about going out and getting it.

Also for what its worth, many of the smartest guys I know ALSO go to the effort to work out and stay in shape too. Thats because they are smart enough to know what things are important in life, and being healthy is definitely one of them.

So I completely disagree, you seem to think the only gym goers are stupid morons with nothing else in their lives. You are wrong.

Also, going to the gym doesn't take up enough time to prevent you contributing to society in other ways. That I can work in an investment bank in the day, spend my evenings learning Japanese and Korean (when I'm not socialising with friends) and yet still have time to keep in shape .... well, it seems I'm just better at life than you.

Cheers!

 

[Paintballguy]

Just because someone is ripped and jacked up doesn't guarantee them pvssy. I know guys that have almost perfect bodies, and the can't get chicks to save their lives because their game is weak as hell.

 

[Iceberg]

Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.

So you're saying that it's impossible to maintain a good body AND be intelligent and successful?

You sound like you were bullied in highschool by some meatheads an now you see anyone who works out as some kind of mindless steroid junkie.

I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.

I was out at bars in clubs in those days too...and I think you have it way wrong. Bulk was more popular years ago, and these days a lean, muscular body is more favorable than a hulked out Mark McGwire look.

Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.

Computer science dudes and med students don't make women all wet and moist? Wow, no way.

Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?

Yeah but you're spinning the argument to favor your f**ked up views. Bulked up, meathead football stars get more love than nerds? So do skinny rock stars and sissy actors.

Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?

Physical attraction has been a part of the selection of sexual partners LONG BEFORE there was a "Western media". Don't be mad that society has advanced to the point where a woman actually has some ability to choose a partner instead of having her parents sell her off to the highest-bidding rich nerd.

Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.

Again, you're applying negative stereotypes to nerds and gym rats if you think that you CAN'T be physically fit AND intelligent. You're saying that the nerd is incapable of being interested in a better body, and you're saying that the gym rat can't possibly be literate and interested in intellectual pursuits. You insult both groups.

And when I was reading about your frustration, I pictured you as some little angry bookworm, but then I realized that anyone who sums people up into neat little stereotypes like you're doing cannot be very intelligent. So you're probably not well-read and likely don't have much world experience outside of your realm of study.

You can't be angry at the world for being attracted to physically desirable people. If physical attraction is such a plague on society, then here's some advice for you: Go date some fat chick with a high SAT score and a heart of gold. Practice what you preach, buddy.

 

[Kailex]

Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.

I guess my displeasure lies in the way pvssy is dispensed.

Displeasure. Bitterness. Anger. Rage. Disappointment.
All similar and all sharing a fine line between them.

YOU need to get real. You are basically talking in an absolute, you are saying that ALL women are like this. Guess what? Not true.

I just got back from a club in which at least 3/4 of the dudes looked like they walked out of the set of the Jersey Shore. A bunch of Italian/Balkan/Persian looking dudes with short hair, muscles, and affliction shirts. I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.

Maybe you are hanging out at the wrong clubs.
I don't know about you, but I live on the Jersey Shore and I've yet to go into a club with people like this... BECAUSE I AVOID IT.

You need to KNOW your hunting ground.

Second, woman are ALWAYS fueled by whatever is "in" right now. With the clothes they wear, the music they listen to, the clubs they hang out, the men they date...

I'm pretty sure that if you had day game and tried other venues rather than a club where everyone is fist pumping, your bitterness would lower substantially. You said it yourself, they are having their day in the sun, but that could all come crashing down soon.

Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.

Who are you talking about?
ALL guys developing innovations aren't getting laid?
IT guys in big successful companies?
Guys in NASA?
The two guys you know from the debate team?

I recall meeting a Chinese girl who'd been serious with a guy for several years. She boasted that he'd won a number of math and architectural awards in numerous competitions. She didn't care how tall he was, how big is biceps were, how many friends he had, how many other hot girls were after him. It was the basis of his achievements that drove her attraction - achievements that had a tangible net *positive* effect on society.

You see a Chinese girl who was interested in a man for his academic success.
I see a girl who was interested in a man for his financial potential.

Tomato. Tomatoooooohhhhhhhhhh.

Now imagine if more girls were like this. Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?

So think about this, your train of thought is that all men who are academically successful and intelligent are single and not getting any. All jocks and bodybuilders automatically get laid and are having the times of their lives.

How is this even remotely true?

And the foundation of the thread is that you are hating on men who use up their free time to exercise and look good for women. Even if that were absolutely true... could you honestly blame them? Let's just say for a second that ALL of the guys lifting weights were doing it for women. Let's just say that they figured this could be an advantage for them in the dating field. How is that a bad thing?

Isn't this website considered an advantage?

Does that mean that other people should hate on us simply because we are seeking advantages to not only better ourselves but better our overall game?

Isn't dressing better, having a better career, being a better person... essentially advantages for the game?

Can you really blame anyone who would want to make the best use of these advantages in their favor?

Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?

Scorning them? Who scorns them?
Movies from the 80's?

Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.

Utopia at its finest.

You're essentially saying that anyone that is physically fit needs to disappear so that you can have a chance at getting laid.

Get real.

This game is like any other game, you do your best to the fullest of your extent and you use any knowledge and advantages you can get your hands on. I still don't get why you are displaying so much bitterness towards men that want to work out when instead you should be directing it at the women who are falling in line with this.

If you REALLY thought all of this was absolutely true, do you think any of this would be happening if women didn't think this was attractive?

 

[Iceberg]

Scorning them? Who scorns them?
Movies from the 80's?

The Breakfast Club really gets his blood boiling.

I still don't get why you are displaying so much bitterness towards men that want to work out when instead you should be directing it at the women who are falling in line with this.

Actually, I dont even see why he'd be bitter at women. Being angry at humans for pursuing physically attractive sexual partners is like being mad at our bodies for inhaling oxygen and exhaling carbon dioxide.

The only woman this guy should be bitter towards is Mother Nature.

The funny thing is, guys can make intelligence attractive to women. But this guy is so angry and jaded that I don't think he can. And then to top it off, like you said, he hangs out in meathead nightclubs where he's playing on their turf. I don't like those clubs either....I go to jazz clubs and dive bars where I'm around a less superficial crowd. But because I also enjoy working out, I'm "Not a rocket scientist."

Sorry to piggyback your post, but a university could hold a semester-long psychology class on this guy's angry view of society and attraction.

 

[CaptainJ]

As a human being you are given a BODY. Your body in order to serve you well MUST BE MAINTAINED and DEVELOPED.

This is not a waste of time, rather a necessity.

^^ This

 

[Jack-Torrance]

Let me skip to the answer of why...

It's to make up for the lack of other qualities in most guy's cases... Guys don't have very good social abilities, so they want to get big and muscular to compensate. Completely unneccessary, don't force yourself to go if you don't enjoy it, because it's not needed to get women...

A lot of guys force themselves to go to the gym, act "alpha"/macho and do other manly things even though it's not "them" because they think it's needed to get women. It's not...

 

[ArcBound]

^^ This

Can't you make the same argument for the mind though? As a human being you are given a MIND and you have to exercise and develop it?

Researchers checked the neurons of people who don't study that much or think hard that much and compare them to the neurons of those who continue doing challenging mental work. The results are the neurons of those who don't study or read that much are in much worse condition and they are more likely to develop neuron related diseases such as Alzheimer's.

I'm all for working out and developing your own body, but what I don't get it why more people shun developing their mind but are more open to developing heir mind.

 

[Reckoning]

If you choose to go the gym, you are not wasting a whole day. You spend 2-3 hours there, max. Then you have 21 hour left in the day to do whatever you want. That includes reading books, enlightening yourself, whatever.

 

[TIC]

I say as long as you don't have a gut, you should be fine. Skinny beats chubby/obese every time, and since statistics show that most men and women are overweight/obese, being skinny should be fine.

I know a guy that works at a computer store who looks as though he has no bone structure. I saw him somewhere else one day and he had a girlfriend who was an 8 (redhead) and was almost taller than him.

I just don't think it matters that much. And you know what? Alot of these meathead gym rats are always working out because they need to compensate for being ugly. Mike the situation is ugly, look at his face. Vinnie barely has muscles but I hear ALOT of women say they prefer him to the others because he's more good-looking in the face.

 

[Ease]

Yes, and I'm sure all the guys I see flexing their biceps at the gym are closet rocket scientists right? Get real dudes.

I guess my displeasure lies in the way pvssy is dispensed.

I just got back from a club in which at least 3/4 of the dudes looked like they walked out of the set of the Jersey Shore. A bunch of Italian/Balkan/Persian looking dudes with short hair, muscles, and affliction shirts. I recall being there in 2005 when you'd see more "normal" guys. All these guys are just conforming to the current masculine ideal fuelled by the media - this look is "in" right now, and they're having their day in the sun.

Meanwhile the guys developing the innovations propelling society forward are sitting in in a dry spell more barren than the Sahara.

I recall meeting a Chinese girl who'd been serious with a guy for several years. She boasted that he'd won a number of math and architectural awards in numerous competitions. She didn't care how tall he was, how big is biceps were, how many friends he had, how many other hot girls were after him. It was the basis of his achievements that drove her attraction - achievements that had a tangible net *positive* effect on society.

Now imagine if more girls were like this. Think of how fundamentally fvcked up a society is that idolizes a guy tossing a football and scorns than a "nerd" developing the latest fuel cell technology to reduce our oil dependence. Who is doing more for empowering society? Who gets rewarded with more pvssy?

Can you imagine if Western media venerated nerds rather than scorning them? Can you imagine if sheep-like women whose desires are always influenced by media and preselection were "influenced" to believe THIS to be attractive?

Can you imagine if being academically fit (and not physically fit) correlated more with hot pvssy? We'd have cured cancer and have colonies in Mars and beyond by now. Guys would be hitting the books instead of hitting the gym. All our problems would be solved.

You dont understand the true nature of life and evolution, this is why you cannot understand your problem.

 

[spinaroonie]

Women respond foremost to social status. Social status is governed by the values of said society.

The Chinese girl I mentioned was reared in a culture that emphasized scholastic achievement as the paragon of male attractiveness. In Asian schools, it's not the football jocks that have the highest status - it's the scholars, the high-achievers, the "nerds". Inculcated with these values, she's conditioned to be attracted to these men - because THESE are the guys with the most social status.

Why should the ability to toss a football or put a ball through a hoop get the gina tingling than, say, scoring in the top 5% of the Math Olympiad? Neither act is inherently more "alpha". It's the social status in relation to these activities that the women respond to. Which is viewed with more respect in the US? Which in Asia?

Around my campus I see a lot of nerdy-looking smart FOB Asian guys with cute girlfriends. The equivalent nerdy white guy is at home alone wacking off to porn - his women have been conditioned to view him as low value, not worth showing off to friends.

The inherent fallacy of a society in which its most productive citizens are getting the least pvssy isn't without irony - and doesn't bode well for the long-term viability of said society.