$hit tests = enigmas

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tonight, let's discuss how $hit tests are nothing but an enigma.

let's start with the definition of enigma:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/enigma
1. a puzzling or inexplicable occurrence or situation: His disappearance is an enigma that has given rise to much speculation.

women do not give $hit tests to all men.
only the ones, that they think the test will work on.

if a woman starts off the relationship with playing hard to get, it is a test.
however, she does not play hard to get with someone that she is very interested in , whom she thinks will not play the little game of hard to get with her. she wouldn't play it because she thinks he would move on very fast.

why would a woman $hit test one guy and not the next?
i think it boils down to one guy having more confidence than the majority of the other guys.

have you ever had one lady test you alot, but the next one you met never really tested you at all? i think that again boils down to one chick having way more confidence than another.

may i have your opinions gentlemen?
 

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backbreaker said:
Women only give @hit test to men who are worth them.....
Ehhhh, I'm seeing a woman who admitted that she and her girlfriend do "things" (sh1t tests) to guys a lot for amusement following PK's premise that they do it to guys when they feel that they can get away with it. I've found that women who are truly interested will ask you things straight away:
"You're a player, aren't you?"
"What do you do for a living?"
"Are you seeing anyone?"
It's their method of qualifying you in no uncertain terms. Yeah, sh1t tests could be used as qualifiers but they are typically relied upon heavily by women who either have particular insecurities or are general game players; maybe even both.
 

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sh*t tests are not enigmas.

sh*t tests are directly tied to her IL. also, there are minor ST and major ST.

if a woman IL is high, she will engage in minor STs. she primarily uses these to gauge how interested the man is in her - is he willing to jump through a hoop or two for her. minor STs are generally pretty easy to pass.

if her IL is moderate to low, but for some reason she's in need of a man and you're the only available candidate at hte moment, she will use major STs. these are basically her warped way of saying "I really don't find you that interesting, so i'm going to slap you around and see if your reaction makes you more interesting."

but all guys get sh*t tests thrown at them - its part of the mating ritual.

the best way to pass a ST is to basically ignore it.
 

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backbreaker said:
I'm going to steal one from Rollo T...

women communicate Covertly. A woman who comes out and asks you "are you single", "what do you do for a living", etc is not necessarly showing interest.. yes she is.. she's not good at her craft.
Women who's purpose outweigh their need to covertly play games will ask a guy these things straight away and will move on if he doesn't fit her critera. Not all woman play games, some are actually mature.
backbreaker said:
It never fails. Everytime I'm in a new crowd or out at a bar or at home or anything like that.. and the woman always thinks she's on some newfound type of wisdom or that she's oing something so radical.. I can tell they are interested... and they start throwing **** out there... "oh, my BOYFRIEND came and saw me today" or "What do you guys think of my dress, how do I look".. These in themselves are open **** tests.
Perhaps, but why don't guys throw it right back at them, tell them that their BF sounds cool and that she should introduce the two of you so that you could have a guy's night out clubbing. I still question what it is about guys gravitating to game players. Whether these guys want to realize it or not, not all women do this.
backbreaker said:
A woman worth her salt doesn't have to ask what you do for a living.. she can figure it out. She can tell by the way you carry yourself the way you are. They are masters of covertness, something men couldn't grasp to their extent if we studied it for 1000 years.
You would think so but that would mean that women primarily meet guys who are DJs where that type of thing doesn't matter. The typical guy will try to impress her with his career. :rolleyes: You can't blame her if she initially believes that it's a common thing with all guys.
backbreaker said:
women don't ask you out, they just show up more often. They don't tell you they want you to make love to them, they put on your fav perfume and cuddle up next to you and start nibbling on your neck. they don't tell you they want you to take them out for a date, they laught a little harder at your unfunny jokes and make sure they have on their **** me pumps when you see them.
Actually, I'm seeing one woman that does all of the above, regularly. You just have to look for the good ones and not expect all of them to be game players. You'll easily find the game players if you believe all women are the same.
 

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penkitten said:
have you ever had one lady test you alot, but the next one you met never really tested you at all? i think that again boils down to one chick having way more confidence than another.
No Penny Kity ! It boils down to one having more MATURITY than another. Testing is tedious, tacky, stupid, self-defeating, relationship crushing and just f**king adolecent ..

The commonly held belief is that the purpose of "testing " is to qualify a man for fatherhood and marriage. Maybe women in their twenties need to do this. However, I see 40-50 year old women still playing these mindless games.
These are the same women who complain that "there are no good men"
There are PLENTY of good men ,ladies, we are just avoiding you and your idiotic tests..
 

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hey some good advice on here. i agree with some of yall that sh1t test are tied to the womans confidence, interest level, and if she thinks she can get away with it, etc.

and got damm, sh1t test truly does = enigma sometimes. like for example, when your date flakes on u after she agreed to go with you to an event you already bought the tickets for.. damm that happened to me just recently.

edit: she hasnt even answer back my phone calls, when i was calling to find out wtf happened, why she all of a sudden decided not to come. :confused:
 

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rocco said:
when your date flakes on u after she agreed to go with you to an event you already bought the tickets for.. damm that happened to me just recently.

edit: she hasnt even answer back my phone calls, when i was calling to find out wtf happened, why she all of a sudden decided not to come. :confused:
Hey Rocco, that is not a sh!t test - that is sh!t behavior from a sh!t woman.
Why did you even dial her number after that disrespect - NEXT !
 

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backbreaker said:
Speaking Covertly is not playing games.. it's just how they communicate.
Perhaps to some, I seldom feel that there's any hidden meaning to what they say. When I'm not sure, I just ask them straight away.
backbreaker said:
you are equating a woman who is "straightfoward" as a "mature one" which is a big mistake. that's a desperate woman at her last ropes.. of course she's going to use the most blunt measure possible to get your attention to let you know she's attracted to her.
I think you are still talking about women who started off playing games, attempted to perpetuate it without realizing that it wasn't working and finally became desperate; and you don't think that shows a lack of maturity?

Believe it or not, there are women out there who are wise enough to be more interested in learning about the guy she's with than focusing on some self serving game playing. It's not to say that she doesn't have a goal in mind, but there's less subterfuge about what she's looking for. That's why it's important to listing with a discerning ear (putting aside you own DJ game playing if necessary) to understand what she is saying so that it won't seem so covert.
 

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penkitten said:
tonight, let's discuss how $hit tests are nothing but an enigma.

let's start with the definition of enigma:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/enigma
1. a puzzling or inexplicable occurrence or situation: His disappearance is an enigma that has given rise to much speculation.

women do not give $hit tests to all men.
only the ones, that they think the test will work on.

if a woman starts off the relationship with playing hard to get, it is a test.
however, she does not play hard to get with someone that she is very interested in , whom she thinks will not play the little game of hard to get with her. she wouldn't play it because she thinks he would move on very fast.

why would a woman $hit test one guy and not the next?
i think it boils down to one guy having more confidence than the majority of the other guys.

have you ever had one lady test you alot, but the next one you met never really tested you at all? i think that again boils down to one chick having way more confidence than another.

may i have your opinions gentlemen?
Rules:
1. Women only need test for that which is not easily seen.
2. Women only test those in which they have a vested interest.
3. Women only test when they are hesitant to ask directly.
 

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ducaro said:
sorry to be harsh.. only shytty women give shyt tests!
Ducaro, are you 57?

There is no such thing as "shyt" tests - it is really about "control"! Women try to test a man's natural genetic superiority of control!
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Ducaro, are you 57?

There is no such thing as "shyt" tests - it is really about "control"! Women try to test a man's natural genetic superiority of control!
I agree that "tests " many times are about control ..They are a cheap attempt by some women to get 'control' by mindfvcking.. This is not the behavior of a quality woman. THis is a desperate covert scam played out within an LTR for no LEGITIMATE reason other than some neurotic need for her to temporarily de-stabilize the relationship for the ILLUSION of power and control.
Testing, mindgames, power plays and 'contol scams' all create PROBLEMS in an LTR . NO good ever comes of this stuff.

I recently overheard some woman actually boasting about how she deliberately confused (mindfvcked) some poor guy who just wanted to get to know her on a date. SHe was actually PROUD of her behavior. The other women listening were bug-eyed in awe.

"Tests" are sometimes not tests ,but actually habitual , lifelong tactics which many women employ to create their much loved "drama" . To interpret "testing " generally as some kind of qualiying strategy is much too generous.

If women (especially at my age) really want to qualifty a man, then the decent way to do so is to observe his natural behavior over time. Just take notes ,ladies !
Creating trumped up dramatics , setting emotional traps and ambushes is ultimately self-defeating because any man who is worth a damn will up and leave a woman who functions like this. The chumps will stay and suffer and hang on because of absence of self worth and lack of options.

Are you reading this Lefty ?
 
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jophil28 said:
"Tests" are sometimes not tests ,but actually habitual , lifelong tactics which many women employ to create their much loved "drama" . To interpret "testing " generally as some kind of qualiying strategy is much too generous.

If women (especially at my age) really want to qualifty a man, then the decent way to do so is to observe his natural behavior over time. Just take notes ,ladies !
Creating trumped up dramatics , setting emotional traps and ambushes is ultimately self-defeating because any man who is worth a damn will up and leave a woman who functions like this. The chumps will stay and suffer and hang on because of absence of self worth and lack of options.

Are you reading this Lefty ?
Very good insight!! The "modern" woman gets her "tactics" from Cos-Ho-politan magazine and other Hor Matrix vehicles - but these do not trump the natural order of things!! Many young guys have been programmed since birth and it is the duty of the elder statesmen to wake them up from their slumber! It is about control fellas - control, and not "tests"!!
 

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Tests and mindfvking are two separate things. I can't believe people are saying only sh1tty women test on a law of nature so given as this. You can't blame a woman for testing. We test women too, you know. Anything that we invest in we have to test first to determine if it is good for us. We test many other things in life. For instance the temperature of the water we drink. Or whether an apple is rotten or not. How good a pair of jeans fit. Or the integrity of an online business we choose to purchase something from.
 

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blueguy said:
Tests and mindfvking are two separate things. I can't believe people are saying only sh1tty women test on a law of nature so given as this. You can't blame a woman for testing. We test women too, you know. Anything that we invest in we have to test first to determine if it is good for us. We test many other things in life. For instance the temperature of the water we drink. Or whether an apple is rotten or not. How good a pair of jeans fit. Or the integrity of an online business we choose to purchase something from.

Gah. Do you see where the problem is..? Almost Everyone uses analogies thinking they explain a lot of stuff.. infact you do! you have just managed to explain that jeans, apples and water is no different than a human being!

Do you see it? I have got sick and tired of people who think another human being is just another 'thing'.. to be played with.. to be tested.. and to be discarded when a better 'thing' pops along!

I am beginning to feel that people in general (incl me) treat other human being like they have no souls and they have no feelings. Scary. (atleast I'm realizing it)
BTW, I am not particularly aiming this at you.. this is widespread... i see it everywhere!! and then we complain that... ' you can't trust another human being'.. 'people are cheap.. trashy and what not. gah
 

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People aren't only cheap and trashy. We encompass so many different things. I know it seems people are so different. But we all experience the human condition. We all feel joy. We feel pain. We feel humor. We feel guilt. These are all expressed in differing ostensible ways. But underneath it all, we all experience the same emotions and do the same things.
 

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Last Man Standing said:
Ducaro, are you 57?

There is no such thing as "shyt" tests - it is really about "control"! Women try to test a man's natural genetic superiority of control!

I think I will be disagreeing with you for the first time.. Natural genetic superiority of control is something very artificial to me for a human being. If a woman is testing you for anything.. she is a snake. period.

Now yes, in business.. you will be tested.. but that relationship is based on money.. so personal emotions are not really existant.

We are humans.. we have feelings.. we have emotions. (For those of you who disagree or think its opera talk.. buzz off)

If somebody truly loves you.. they don't test you. If they are testing you it only means that person is with you for worldly reasons.. you know.. sex.. kids.. company.. money... what not...

call me sappy if you like... but to make a relationship work forget about 50-50 rule. (that both the partners need to make it 'work'..)

If you are in love with a person, you should be able to give all the freedom to your partner and yet that person should be aware of it and not take you for granted and respect the freedom you have given him/her. this should be a two way system... believe me, I have seen this between couples... although this is not quite common
 

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ducaro said:
If somebody truly loves you.. they don't test you.
But you see, if they feel they love you, they've already tested you and know you well enough to satisfy their condition. :)
 

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blueguy said:
But you see, if they feel they love you, they've already tested you and know you well enough to satisfy their condition. :)
yes! I agree.. but don't you think that is what attraction is about? That was before the girl and the guy became a team! (couple) Just that the 'testing' should not happen after this point! That is what commitment is about.

you know..

'Hey, Ok i know you've 'tested' me before we agreed to be with eachother because you were looking to qualify me as your partner. which is fine... but you do not do it now that we are together... you should have done all the testing before we got together. thats the deal!'


I dunno may be I'm sounding a bit farfetched.. but Comeon.. I would never allow myself to be 'tested' on a daily or yearly basis by my woman or anybody.
 

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SonOfTheMostHigh said:
I've figured out what **** testing is about:

It's about testing someones congruence with who they really are, if someone is trying to hard to be someone they are not, women will get the urge to throw a curve ball at this man to see if he is easily shaken.

It's about STRENGTH TESTING. You don't want to be able to destroy a man and have him too stricken by your looks or something else that he loses his sanity. And you want to weed out the needy / co-dependent types (unless you are one!). So you as a woman get the urge to "test" that being to see if he is really strong / powerful and HAS OPTIONS, (someone who is not so invested in any woman he meets since he has no problems getting women or has figured himself out and/or has his **** together).

I've had women try to get me to believe a LIE that I know is a lie about some event in the past where the woman looks bad or did something wrong (like cheat) she will start to change the story!! and I am like NO ****ING WAY *****!! I pounce on her immediately for her bull****... women want to know that MEN will PUT THEM IN THEIR PLACE when they act like overgrown babies. They want real "warriors", someone who is firm in themselves, not someone who hasn't yet found acceptance of himself.

Another aspect is she wants to protect her self-image and her perception of herself, so sometimes she'll **** test not for the GUY but for HERSELF. Amazing as that is!
This post is mostly true for some women BUT not for all. ULtimately these tests transform themselves later in the relationship on into mindfvcking games. These testing tactics solidify into lifelong habits and women who pull this shyte are exhausting to be with. You wind up jumping thu hoops to feed her f**king sense of control or for her entertainment. Better to find a women who is not into this stupid crap at all.
 

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