High value guys - what makes you high value?

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High value comes from dominating weak men and having impenetrable self confidence
Actually I think it's the complete opposite. When I think of the most impressive men I've met in my life, they've nearly always been humble and always willing to help. They don't go around bullying people - only weak and insecure guys do that. In fact I honestly believe this is what draws so many people in. People want to be around them.
 
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Ask questions first, dummy.

Each male should be treated with courtesy until he purposefully disrespects you. Once he disrespects you then he is fair game. Fair game is someone you can use to increase your perceived value.

Men who return respect receive respect
You think I'm going to listen to someone who spends his time mooching off other people?

You have no value to add or offer to anything.

I'm such a "dummy" that I own my own house while you hope that people let you crash on their couch.
 

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High value comes from dominating weak men and having impenetrable self confidence
From dominating weak men.... Doesn't sound all that impressive to me. I thought an alpha would typically become an alpha by dominating the former alpha in a flock. In other words gain value by being better than another guy of higher perceived value.
Actually I think it's the complete opposite. When I think of the most impressive men I've met in my life, they've nearly always been humble and always willing to help. They don't go around bullying people - only weak and insecure guys do that. In fact I honestly believe this is what draws so many people in. People want to be around them.
This is how to be better. Social value is all about being the most useful guy around. Everyone wants to be around the problem solver, the guy who makes others happy and doesn't use fear tactics.

Weak men try to dominate by intimidation. It won't ever beat the guy who helps everyone and has zero fear when threatened.
 

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Actually I think it's the complete opposite. When I think of the most impressive men I've met in my life, they've nearly always been humble and always willing to help. They don't go around bullying people - only weak and insecure guys do that. In fact I honestly believe this is what draws so many people in. People want to be around them.
I'm not saying to bully random people. That would be a mistake that could cost you your life .

What i'm saying is extend basic human courtesy to all men that you meet in the beginning. If that male perceives your courtesy as weakness, then he will inevitably disrespect you. That would be the insecure bully type. Once he does, then he is fair game. He becomes a pawn that you can use to increase your perceived value. This is an easy way to show strength. Thereby increasing your value.

If the male extends the courtesy back, then eventually you will grow to respect that man or eventually you two will drift apart due to having nothing in common.

I don't help people with shvt unless i respect them or can gain something from it. Helping people that don't respect you makes you a do-boy.

They don't go around bullying people - only weak and insecure guys do that..
Superlatives are normally false.

In fact I honestly believe this is what draws so many people in. People want to be around them.
Drawing people in is cool if you care about that thing, but that doesn't equate to attraction. It just makes you a fun guy to be around. I'd rather be considered a jerk, but have as much pvssy as i want.
 

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From dominating weak men.... Doesn't sound all that impressive to me. I thought an alpha would typically become an alpha by dominating the former alpha in a flock. In other words gain value by being better than another guy of higher perceived value.

This is how to be better. Social value is all about being the most useful guy around. Everyone wants to be around the problem solver, the guy who makes others happy and doesn't use fear tactics.

Weak men try to dominate by intimidation. It won't ever beat the guy who helps everyone and has zero fear when threatened.
What is this, good vs evil? lol

I thought you guys wanted to learn how to get pvssy, not how to uphold the highest of the high laws and do right by others even when they do you wrong.

On average, the guys here are mentally weak and unable to see how nasty the game really is. I can't help you
 
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What is this, good vs evil? lol

I thought you guys wanted to learn how to get pvssy, not how to uphold the highest of the high laws and do right by others even when they do you wrong.

On average, the guys here are mentally weak and unable to see how nasty the game really is. I can't help you
How nasty is the game?

What kind of stuff do people do?
 

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How nasty is the game?

What kind of stuff do people do?
Most men will hit on your girl when you aren't around. Most women will entertain it. Most people are pawns and they few that aren't will show you basic courtesy and allow you to disrespect them first. I wouldn't mind sharing more but you disrespected and belittled me on my post so I'd rather not.
 

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My girl came back to me after 7 weeks of NC.
I thought you were scarce for a few days there. Must have been busy with the old dream girl.
 
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Most men will hit on your girl when you aren't around. Most women will entertain it. Most people are pawns and they few that aren't will show you basic courtesy and allow you to disrespect them first. I wouldn't mind sharing more but you disrespected and belittled me on my post so I'd rather not.
They get her to do something I wouldn't approve of, then blackmail her?

All while talking **** about me to her face?
 

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- I'm handsome

- I can provide a lifestyle that women want to live
 

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And what are you confident about if you don't have the ability to make any money?

Confidence doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is based on previous success. Success with what?

No you took it way too far, making a living is enough to be confident you don't have to pulling in a 6 figure salary but you cant be comotose either... just for an example a 25 year old blue collar guy vs a 25 year old trust fund brat. I bet you bottom dollar the latter gets the best b1tches
 

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This reminds me too much of the "We're all 10s" concept. Obviously, we're not all 10s (I don't believe anybody is a 10 actually).
You might say, from a philosophical standpoint, that we all have value, but that's not the same as saying you have high dating market value.
Like the OP asks, what makes you high value? Forget about the money, but it seems to me that you can't just say "I'm high value" without having any reason for it. There has to be some reason to hang your hat on.

I totally agree and im not saying everybody is a 10 lol

But I want to get a little deeper if I may, see we are all men here and that is all we share. We all come from different socio economic backgrounds ethnicities etc etc... now what would be a 10 in the projects would be a 0 at the country club and vice versa your smv depends on the environment you are in
 
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Go door-to-door and try to sell a paperclip for $1 million bucks. You'll never do it.

Now go door-to-door and try to sell a bar of gold for a nickel. You'll sell it quickly.

There must be some substance.

Even if you were brainwashed from birth to think that paperclips are the most valuable things on Earth, it still won't help you sell it no matter how much you believe in it.

And.... different things are valuable to different girls. Some girls like money more than others. Some girls would value something different. (although I still think that money is the most universally valued thing).

One girl can think you're ugly as ****, and another could think you're hot.

Some girl might think a cocaine or pill dealer is high value, while other girls might think he's a loser. Some girls might even like quiet nerds, while other girls find them stupid and boring.
 

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What is this, good vs evil? lol

I thought you guys wanted to learn how to get pvssy, not how to uphold the highest of the high laws and do right by others even when they do you wrong.

On average, the guys here are mentally weak and unable to see how nasty the game really is. I can't help you
I have been experiencing this more and more in recent years. The game is changing, it's becoming dirtier and more feminized every day. I will go as far as saying that the value systems in places are also undergoing a change. Integrity, trust, character aren't worth sh$t nowadays. A lot of guys, especially the older ones haven't realized it yet. Richard's argument stays true, but it comes from a position of a boss, a man that by default has authority and hiring/firing powers. If you find yourself among perceived "equals", this argument no longer stands.
 

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Exactly!!! 7 billion people in this world over half are women!!!
And not saying money doesn't help it does it's like the laziest way to add smv but there is a trade off the type of girls you attract and the what ifs... I been on both sides of this i like the type of girls you get when you are living paycheck to paycheck honestly cuz if they know your situation and still want you it's a blessing.
 

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I have been experiencing this more and more in recent years. The game is changing, it's becoming dirtier and more feminized every day. I will go as far as saying that the value systems in places are also undergoing a change. Integrity, trust, character aren't worth sh$t nowadays. A lot of guys, especially the older ones haven't realized it yet. Richard's argument stays true, but it comes from a position of a boss, a man that by default has authority and hiring/firing powers. If you find yourself among perceived "equals", this argument no longer stands.

Defeatist attitude brother... integrity trust and character charisma and health is all I got in this world if majority of b1tches ain't about that then fvck em there still are some out there that value a man with values
 

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Confidence and positioning yourself in life to know that you have absolutely nothing to hide/be ashamed of. Forget all the crap about social status/money/whatever...it's a simple yes or no question to yourself: "If I go over to that girl and introduce myself, will she be better off because I did so?" If you answer that with an emphatic yes, than you're high value.

I have a career, cool vehicles, a neat house, fun hobbies, know some people, etc...but screw that. I'm better than all the losers out there not because of that; it's more about the fact that I know I'm a damned good person with a conscience and without any baggage at all. That's what high value is, it's the ability to think and act freely because you literally know that you're completely worth it for somebody to have in their life. Having nothing to hide and the matching awareness/pride in yourself as a person to go with it = being high value.
 

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Confidence and positioning yourself in life to know that you have absolutely nothing to hide/be ashamed of. Forget all the crap about social status/money/whatever...it's a simple yes or no question to yourself: "If I go over to that girl and introduce myself, will she be better off because I did so?" If you answer that with an emphatic yes, than you're high value.

I have a career, cool vehicles, a neat house, fun hobbies, know some people, etc...but screw that. I'm better than all the losers out there not because of that; it's more about the fact that I know I'm a damned good person with a conscience and without any baggage at all. That's what high value is, it's the ability to think and act freely because you literally know that you're completely worth it for somebody to have in their life. Having nothing to hide and the matching awareness/pride in yourself as a person to go with it = being high value.

I love you brother. This is exactly what I was trying to get at but rofl I lack the linguistic skills you got to put my thoughts into writing.
 
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