High value guys - what makes you high value?

bigneil

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It's called hoovering
If that means her rubbing an HB9.9 vagina on me, I like hoovering.

The fact I got to show her photos of the girl I was with when we first kissed (who I dated), and my having lost 12 lb, is a good indication I will see her again.
 

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Most others on this thread won't answer, they will be too busy boosting their own ego.

In general, a high value guy is never at a lack of a social life, women, and respect from society. High value guys generally get their way in their area, are favored by many, and often have a great life because of it. People gravitate towards them and they seem to come up in conversations a lot.

When they start a social media account, people around them follow them and they get massive likes on their pics.

You can tell a guy is high value when he just matters more and people care more about him than they would any average guy.
 

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In my opinion its your ability to be the dominant person in the room. Other men being cautious not to disrespect you in any way is an example (women do it to **** test but don't let it slide with them). The presence of power is also a contributor, this can be being financially successful or having value in social politics
 

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Confidence!!!!!! You are all high value guys. fvck all that **** when money makes the man you ain't a man. The way some of you guys talk you would think we all had price tags on us with our net worth
 

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Confidence!!!!!! You are all high value guys. fvck all that **** when money makes the man you ain't a man. The way some of you guys talk you would think we all had price tags on us with our net worth
And what are you confident about if you don't have the ability to make any money?

Confidence doesn't exist in a vacuum. It is based on previous success. Success with what?
 

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Your ontology.

Who/ What do you think you are?

A random fermentation of chemicals called consciousness, or a spiritual being walking lightly on this earth.:rolleyes:

As you think, so you are.
 

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Respect of other men.
your ability to be the dominant person in the room.
The presence of power
Would buy in to all of these things. Though would add that dominance can be both an active and passive process. And, as far as respect of other men is concerned, in turn, it depends on the level of respect they command themselves.

I recently had a basketball reunion with my old NL team. We were pretty good back in the day with a couple of national players and national team manager coaching us. These guys are like older brothers to me.

After the reunion game, we had a night out in one of the late bars and our connections arranged us VIP, drinks and free run of the DJ booth all night.

About half way through the night, I turn and notice the rest of the room is basically 99% female. And like fine, made up females in c0cktail dresses. There were maybe one or two other blokes within spitting distance, but by no means able to compete. Every time one of our guys broke from our group for bathroom or bar trip, the girls' attention was drawn like iron filings to the magnet. Bear in mind that we are all athletic, some of these guys are pushing 7' tall; our average height is probably 6'4-5.

I'm buzzing around catching up with everyone, and at one point, I'm talking with my boys Martin and Tom, both 6'10-11 and built in proportion. They're both hunched listening to what I'm saying, myself being 6'2, but also fairly built and in proportion. I realise at this point I'm holding the attention of both of the apex alphas in the room, at the same time, diminutive as I am by comparison. And people are reacting to that. We literally have the attention of the whole room, even some of our peers. I turn and go to the toilet, passing by a stunning brunette who double takes me with what can only be described as fervent shock; rabbit in headlights.

As is said, your own value or worth is the sum / average of the five people you spend most of your time with.
 

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Sexual Market Value (SMV) comprises three elements:

1) Looks;
2) Money;
3) Status.

One extreme value in any of these elements equates to an SMV of 10.

For example:
  • A known celebrity trumps the "status" elements and holds a SMV of 10;
  • A business man with 100 million net worth trump the "money" element and holds a SMV of 10;
  • A top model trumps the "looks" element and hold a SMV of 10.

Though, you find many celebrities, rich men, and models with women of lower SMV. But should they elect, they are at the top echelon of social value.

Although most of us will not likely reach a SMV of 10, I fully support each of us striving to get there in all three SMV elements.

Personally, I recognized my SMV shift by the dynamics at play in my dates:

Last night I went out with a 7. At the end of the date, I go for the kiss, and she gives me the cheek. I go for the kiss again, she gives me the other cheek. I offer her a ride home, she says, " No thank you. I'm OK." Most guys here would say she's not interested, right?

Here is the ensuing convo:
<30 minutes post date>

Guru: Had good time. Let's do it again soon

HB7: OMG, so did I. Love too, I didn't think you wanted too

Guru: I do, you're attractive. Are you free Friday night?

HB7: Yes! And thank you
Notice I have to describe my interest overtly, as she is so insecure, she assumed I wasn't interested although I was. Most guys would have said her purposely giving me the cheek twice or declining my ride offer exemplifies low IL. SMV tells the real story.

The sexual marketplace is like any other marketplace: The value you give is what you receive. Be cognizant of your SMV.
 
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The sexual marketplace is like any other marketplace: The value you give is what you receive. Be cognizant of your SMV.
This is the biggest thing that so many guys miss, especially herein.

They'll whine all day about the 'state of the marketplace' and 'declining quality of women', yet fail to look themselves squarely in the mirror everyday and say, 'I'm going to be the best version of myself today, and make sure I'm an even better version still, tomorrow.' They fail to understand that it is their own value that dictates the state of the market (immediately around them) and quality of women they encounter. Always when I feel most abundant, I attract the highest quality females. Always.
 

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This is the biggest thing that so many guys miss, especially herein.

They'll whine all day about the 'state of the marketplace' and 'declining quality of women', yet fail to look themselves squarely in the mirror everyday...

This is what I always say. They whine and cry about the state of dating expecting an HB9 from a tradional household to fall from the sky into their lap when they themselves aren't above a 5.
 

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Confidence!!!!!! You are all high value guys.
This reminds me too much of the "We're all 10s" concept. Obviously, we're not all 10s (I don't believe anybody is a 10 actually).
You might say, from a philosophical standpoint, that we all have value, but that's not the same as saying you have high dating market value.
Like the OP asks, what makes you high value? Forget about the money, but it seems to me that you can't just say "I'm high value" without having any reason for it. There has to be some reason to hang your hat on.
 

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High value means being worth more per minute than someone with lower value.
 
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High value comes from dominating weak men and having impenetrable self confidence
I spend most of my time by myself. I rarely am in the company of other guys, but when I am, I am respectful to them unless they are trying to infringe on my rights.

I have people that work for me. I pay them fair and treat them well, not only because they're human beings, but because nobody will do their best work if their boss is an a*hole.
 

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I spend most of my time by myself. I rarely am in the company of other guys, but when I am, I am respectful to them unless they are trying to infringe on my rights.

I have people that work for me. I pay them fair and treat them well, not only because they're human beings, but because nobody will do their best work if their boss is an a*hole.
Ask questions first, dummy.

Each male should be treated with courtesy until he purposefully disrespects you. Once he disrespects you then he is fair game. Fair game is someone you can use to increase your perceived value.

Men who return respect receive respect
 
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