High school, the horror and the glory

Nocturnal

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Well guys, it's only been about a week and a half of college for me so far, but already I've learned so much that I wish I could pass back to myself in high school 4 years ago. I hope I can do it for you, I just really hope you take it to heart.

First of all, do not kid yourself. There are cliques, there are stereotypes, and there is a social ladder in every avenue you will ever pass by in life. However, in high school people have no problem overlooking those things because they have people next to them that they can count on to follow the exact same stereotypes as them.

It's the easy way to find 'friends'. But in reality, people don't know exactly who they are, so they don't think twice about allowing a label to be plastered onto them and following a group.

Immaturity is a part of life, but no matter how much you might disagree with me now, when you leave the bubble you're in, you'll see that people are SO alike. Those 'punks' sitting in the corner, the 'preps' on the other side of the room, and every one in between, are people just like you.

They might not see it, but that's not important. What's important is that you see it.

One of the most important things you can do to have fun in life is to meet people. Know people. It doesn't matter how much you're alike, it doesn't matter how much you can actually get out of knowing someone. People are social by nature. If you're standing in line next to someone, and they're not talking to their friend, DO NOT BE AFRAID TO SAY HELLO. Ask them questions about themselves, it doesn't matter if by the end of it if all you know is their name, or not even that! When you see them in the hall, you can say hi and have someone to talk to as you walk to class. When you have gym with them next year, you'll already have the ice broken before you even look them in the eyes! The greatest thing about it is that you decide how far it goes. If you want to be good friends with them, you can offer to go check out a movie or something. If you don't, then all you have to do is say hi. In high school, you're around the same people all the time. When you get to know them, it will be so much more fun. It will be easier to get girls, it will be easier to have friends to hangout with when you're ever-so-bored. Popular people have more fun, period. As long as you're not horrendously disfigured, or have slurred speech, etc, you can be popular. You can be at -10 in the looks department, but you can still network with people and I promise there are ways to turn that -10 into a 6 or 7. The key, very simply put, is to get over the stupid impediments your mind puts on you when it comes to doing what humans have been doing for thousands of years... talking to other people. Ignore the stereotypes and social classifications. Even if you meet 1 person and 1 other person laughs at you for socializing with the first person, that will not happen every time. In the end you will have more friends than 'enemies', but don't be afraid to take on those enemies that you would never have gotten along with in the first place.

If you want to have fulfilling, awesome high school memories, you MUST step over your boundries. Your parents and society have put a fence up around you to protect you, but you have to understand that you don't need it anymore. You can think for yourself. So now you draw your own lines. You decide things for yourself.

To become great, you must be proactive. You must take initiative. So I ask you now, take the initiative to meet everyone. UNDERSTAND that the discomfort you get is so minute compared to the benefits you will get from talking to people.

About life after high school, you need to understand two things.
  1. You cannot focus all of your energy on the future and give up the pleasures of the present

    However
  2. The more you focus on the future, the better the future will be[/list=1]Think of it this way. You want to buy a car. The longer you invest your money, the more you'll have, so the better the car you can buy. But if you invest it forever, you'll never have your car. Here's where the decision part comes in, this is what you need to pay attention to. You have to decide how long you're willing to wait to get a good car. If you take the unsensible, immediate pleasure only choice, you'll choose to have a cheap car immediately. However, if you choose the other unsensible, overcautious choice, you'll never have a car, just some very valuable, intangible numbers in a bank. It is up to you to decide where you draw the line. In real life, this is where your values come in.

    When you apply that analogy to meeting people, you can see it this way: on one end you can meet no one, but on the other hand you can meet everyone. The difference is, there is no downside to meeting more people. In fact, the more people you meet, the less discomfort you will get by meeting another. So if you want to look at it mathematically, there is always more good than bad to meeting someone, so you should be meeting as many people as you can. Don't be afraid to be social AT ALL. Basically, meet people as long as it adds to your social life. If and when you reach that point is for you to determine, but I can say that that's still a long way for me.

    Don't be afraid to grow up just because you'll be different than everyone else. You don't have to be an idiot or immature to have a good time. I knew a guy in high school that reminds me so much of the people I've met in college, because he was not afraid to shake someone's hand and introduce himself. He didn't have a "group,' his group was whoever sat next to him or bumped into him during the day. People had no problem with him, even though he didn't wear their clothes or play their sport.

    But I promise you that when you reach that point you will enjoy life so much more, and the great thing is you have access to it at your fingertips. All in all, I can't really say I expect people to listen to me. They might applaud me for my post and then completely ignore it the following day, but I hope someone does take it to heart because many of the changes people go through when they get to college are available to you guys in high school, and when they happen you only wished they happened sooner.
 

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I totally agree. We had a service project at a zoo last year.

Anyways, I was just a sophomore. But I got grouped with these 2 senior chicks. I didn't look as good as I do now, but I guess me asking their names and getting the convo started got them to like me. So in the end, we're like life long friends and they actually drove me home. Kick ass.

A lot of people are scared of talking. 2nd most thing feared after death is public speech. If you've got the balls to get it rolling, they immediately want to be you, or at least be NEAR you. You give off an aura that makes you attractive, because you did what they wish they could do. So the next time when you're in a room full of strangers, ask them how they're doing and absorb the admiration.
 

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I have a complication, i think i am one of these people whos social with everyone. BUT i never get invited to many parties cause people dont see me as a close friend, just a friend they talk to once every day in the school grounds.:( Yes i have some mates who im good friends with but others im just friends with and get a hello here and there.
 

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Why are you guys waiting for an invitation to parties? I call people up to let them know where parties are happening, just to be nice - but I'm the only one I have ever heard of doing that. Just call people up, say how's it going, heard of any parties tonight? etc etc.

Find out who knows all about the party scene at your school, then get his/her phone number. Just say "Can I get your number? we totally should party sometime." A year ago I never went to any parties, now I'm the one with the hook up...it's easy. I even get my friends into college parties.
 

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Originally posted by Nocturnal

Don't be afraid to grow up just because you'll be different than everyone else. You don't have to be an idiot or immature to have a good time. I knew a guy in high school that reminds me so much of the people I've met in college, because he was not afraid to shake someone's hand and introduce himself. He didn't have a "group,' his group was whoever sat next to him or bumped into him during the day. People had no problem with him, even though he didn't wear their clothes or play their sport.
This sounds a bit like me. I talked to many people when I was an AFC. Whenever I was bored I would just talk to anyone that would listen. My group was whoever I felt like hanging with (i.e. hicks, ghetto, punks, skaters, preps, etc.) but then the problem came when i would talk to much. It's all about balance. I almost drove a couple of friends away but managed to keep them around.
 

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Originally posted by jiza101
I have a complication, i think i am one of these people whos social with everyone. BUT i never get invited to many parties cause people dont see me as a close friend, just a friend they talk to once every day in the school grounds.:( Yes i have some mates who im good friends with but others im just friends with and get a hello here and there.
It's good you're friendly with people, but it sounds like you're being subordinate to them and pretty much accepting everyone but not really going to anyone.

To make more close friends, offer to hang out sometime with/without other people that you both know. If they say no thanks (in so many words), you can still be friendly with them and have the connection. You have to take initiative, people in high school often have very boring days and they'd be glad to hang out. As long as nothing goes wrong you've just made a friend.
 

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Originally posted by Nocturnal
It's good you're friendly with people, but it sounds like you're being subordinate to them and pretty much accepting everyone but not really going to anyone.

To make more close friends, offer to hang out sometime with/without other people that you both know. If they say no thanks (in so many words), you can still be friendly with them and have the connection. You have to take initiative, people in high school often have very boring days and they'd be glad to hang out. As long as nothing goes wrong you've just made a friend.
Im going to extend what Nocturnal says, the best way of making proper friends is to appeal to their self interest, instead of yours. (btw these are for boys) So rather than "I don't have any friends please come hang with me". You could try " i have spare tickets to x, do you wanna come, so and so dropped out on me" or what you doing, them telling you they are not doing anything, invite them for something.

Whatever you do, be enthusiastic about their company but not clingy or desperate to keep them, if they have to go, then let them. The most important thing is to listen to them and make them feel understand. Its mainly like picking up a strange girl on the street, but one where you do not need to prove that you are harmless.

If you want to have female friends then you should go and get a girlfriend as if you click their friends are often the best. Otherwise hang out with any girls that are around, but not clinging. Old flames tend to be good as the reason you often got together was that it was fun being around each other. However, make iit expressly clear that you are not interested in her, otherwise you look desperate and weak.

The most important thing is to have fun and convey that to the other person so that they have fun.

Sorry if it doesnt make too much sense, im in agony, i have a bee sting on my finger.

Good luck and dont sweat it
 

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Hey jiza and wonderboy if you're gonna wait to be invited to partys then I'll try to give some advice. Making friends is kinda like getting girls without attraction and kino of cource;) . The main thing you need is rapport with people. Get to know loads about them their fave bands, what sports they like etc. I suggest doing it with only the most popular guys though otherwise you'll waste alot of time. When you've really got the characteristics that a DJ has down naturally then it will be hard for you not to become popular anyway.
 

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so now i know what ive been doing wrong for the last 2 years..... good post man im sure i would have been just like you and realize this stuff when is a bit too late.....ill take your advice, cause youre completly right....

i was kinda realizing this stuff but you put couldnt have said it better....
 

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I took the liberty of finding and bumping them.
 

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Originally posted by Porky
Why are you guys waiting for an invitation to parties? I call people up to let them know where parties are happening, just to be nice - but I'm the only one I have ever heard of doing that. Just call people up, say how's it going, heard of any parties tonight? etc etc.

Find out who knows all about the party scene at your school, then get his/her phone number. Just say "Can I get your number? we totally should party sometime." A year ago I never went to any parties, now I'm the one with the hook up...it's easy. I even get my friends into college parties.
Yeah, I've done that before, where I've actually called friends of mine up if I'm at a party. If the person having the party doesn't really mind how many people are there then I usually will do it, but when I don't it's usually cause the person doesn't want anymore people. I usually try to be somewhat responsible/respectful of the person throwing the party, while still having a good time. I've had parties of my own before and I know that it can be pretty stressful when there's a lot of people there, so I make sure not to f*ck anything up for them, and try and help out when someone else is f*cking something up.

But anyway, about calling up people to see if they know of any parties going on. I agree, that's generally the best way to go about it. However, what happens a lot is you'll call early on and you'll both say "ok i'll call you if i find anything out", and usually the person won't call back later for whatever reason (even if they're your friend and really like you). I've had that happen numerous times, and the person I called had found something out later on. And if you do it to the same person too much it may get kind of annoying.

Even through that it's still your best shot for finding parties though. Most people throwing parties only invite a few of their close friends. Then those friends tell their friends, those friends tell their other friends, and so on. So unless you're good friends with the person having the party, don't just expect to get a call being invited to a party.
 

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