High school dating problem, please read and give advice!

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Ok, so basically I’d like a little insight on what everyone thinks of this situation. I went to school with this girl that I never really talked or paid much attention to since 7th grade. (We’re now in 10th)

So a about a month ago, I decided I need more girl friends that are closer to home because I seem to know more from other counties. So I set off to get to know her. She’s also attractive, I need to add that for clarity, if she weren’t attractive, I wouldn’t have wanted to get to know her to begin with. So I get her myspace, I talk to her a bit. Then I get her AIM screen name. She gets my phone number from one of my away messages, and then we start texting each other. Now, she’s a softball player and is very much focused on that more than anything at the moment since (this was then, we just lost states last night) we’ve made it to state finals. So I start going to her games, we hang out. A casual roller blade/bike ride along the water followed by lunch at a sports bar. This was not considered a date though I might add. We paid for our own meals, and it was just in nice company.

So, I consider all this very good progression. Now, she’s in state softball finals, and they win the semi-final. The next day was finals. We were all so convinced they’d win, that I had planned to ask her out after her win to make her night even better, since I had the feeling she was really into me. I go, her team loses. My new focus is cheering her up, not asking her out. Fortunately we have a long drive home to talk, in this case text each other. I keep telling her that she’s awesome at softball to not let this get her down. She’s happy again. The next day we sit together at lunch, again, we hit it off well. Everything seems great. She has an early dismissal, I meet her mom, and her mom really likes me she says. We text each other for a couple more hours here and there throughout the day, then, once I’m home from school, before I leave for work, she stops texting me, says she’s just tired when I asked what was wrong. I go on her myspace profile, and find that she has taken me off of her top friends. Something seems odd, but I didn’t want to jump to any conclusions.

So I go to work. When I get home, I check my myspace to find a message from her. It states that she had to go somewhere when she stopped texting me earlier in the day. I reply that I’m glad that was all, that I thought I had made her mad when she all of a sudden stopped texting me and after I had noticed that she had taken me off her top friends. Then she replies saying that she wont be able to hang out anytime soon, she’s busy with school and softball. She also adds that she doesn’t think anything more than a friendship will work. That she wants to tell me that before things get too far and she ends up hurting my feelings or worse. She says it’s just as hard for her to write it as it is for me to read it. So I reply saying that she’s the perfect girl I could ask for. But that I respect her decisions and if she wants to take things easy, I’m cool with it.

Basically, I was pretty sad that all this happened. So I log onto AIM, to find her on. I ask her if we can talk, that I just want to talk about anything to ease my mind. She agrees. We’re talking, and all of a sudden, there’s talk about how we can’t remain friends in fear of me trying to get with her. She almost gets defensive about it. Now things start to get interesting. She tells me that we can’t hang out anymore. That she doesn’t want a boyfriend and for me and her to stay friends would be too hard because she sees me trying to get with her.

So now I try to patch things up. I tell her how I am in these situations, and bring up an ex-girlfriend and how the almost the same situation happened and we remained friends after a little bit of time as a buffer zone. She now thinks that I’ll, yet again, try and hook up with her. So finally she asks me a question for closure. She wants to know why I started talking to her to begin with. So I reply: (straight from AIM conversation)

“ok, i remember you from ms.*******’s class, you always had the best grade, you always did the right thing, you were a good student, i was a slacker, and i never cared about anything really, well, since me and Katie are like bro sis, we talk a lot, and we never directly talked about you, i just always knew that you were an awesome softball player, and that to be on a sports team, you need to have good grades and stuff so that aspect hadn't changed much, and i saw you around school here and there, mostly at lunch, and i say some of the people you hung out with, i didn't know them, but i know most of the bad, and they certainly weren't bad, so i knew you must still be a good person. so i thought to myself, i need a cool girl i can trust and all this, and i started talking to you, but i guess i got too over myself, that i started liking you, which i realize now was a bad decision seeing all the mess its created”

She now understands why I started talking to her a little better and decides to go to sleep and let things cool off over the weekend. Depending on how she feels, she will let me know what she thinks Monday. Now, I’m looking for any advice from anyone about what to do or what they think is going on. If you’re unclear about something or want more detail, please let me know as I am very frustrated and just want some help with this whole situation.

Do you think that she’s afraid to like me because she’ll get hurt like she has in the past? Do you think she thinks it’s too good to be true therefore it must not be true? She says she doesn’t believe someone her perfect man will come in high school. Not saying that I would be, but I think you understand what I’m conveying. Any help is appreciated.

Thank you.
 
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I don't know exactly how you would act around her, but it seems like you acted too much like a friend, and therefore were put into the "friend zone." Then, you made if obvious that you were interested in her, but all she saw is a friend. So, it began to creep her out, and she decided she couldn't be your friend.

I know it's not the answer you want to hear, but....drop her. Fast. Stay away. No more calls, no more texts, no more talking to her on AIM. Get on with your life, otherwise you will be miserable. Trust me on that one.

Secondly, she couldn't have been that great of a friend, if she says you can't be friends anymore. She needs to get off of her high horse.

If you EVER want ANY chance with her, you need to completely stay away from her. DATE OTHER GIRLS!!! This is the most important thing. It does 2 things....not only does it make you forget about her, but it also makes her jealous. Jealousy is a VERY powerful emotion. So stay away from her, and date other girls. The chances of this working aren't very high, but YOU will be too busy having fun and enjoying your life to care. YOU WILL BE OVER HER IN NO TIME.

And don't worry about it....every guy falls into the friend zone at some point...you're young and inexperienced, so don't let it get you down.
 

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boogieman2188 said:
Awesome dude. Tear it up. lmao. Hey, I posted that thing on SoSuave and someone said that I made it into the friend zone instead of giving her the impression I wanted to date her, and when she finally got the impression I wanted to date her, she got scared and didn't want to be friends anymore. Sounds pretty good to me. Problem is, how do I work on getting to know girls to date them rather then fall into the friend zone? But you know, as I'm writing this, I'm realizing a problem right from the start! I wanted to get to know her as a friend remember? So I started talking to her as a friend with no intention on dating her. So what the hell. Now the question is, how do you move from the friend zone to date? If that's possible.
Yeah, you went all the way to her softball games! You need to state your intentions early on to avoid falling into the dreaded friends zone! (As I told you multiple times the other night lol)

What's great is that you realized you have a problem. That's an awesome start, I can see you learning this stuff quickly.

And usually, once in the friend zone, it's really difficult to go to dating. Best thing to do is drop her as a romantic interest and go for other girls. And with me that shouldn't be a problem lol

At this point, all she's useful for is giving you advice on girls. And meeting her friends. And pretty much everything that you and your friends do, except with an attractive girl lol. Which is good, because if you hang out with her, and you meet a girl you're interested in, you can you your new friend to make the potential girlfriend value you more.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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You're totally right. But the thing is, she doesn't even want to be friends! Oh well. Like you said, if she's waiting for the right guy to come and "sweep her off her feet" then she'll die single. I appreciate the tip though. Anything helps. Basically at this point, I want to know what I did wrong or where it went wrong rather then try and fix it because I know that wont happen nor do I care at this moment.
 

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boogieman2188 said:
You're totally right. But the thing is, she doesn't even want to be friends! Oh well. Like you said, if she's waiting for the right guy to come and "sweep her off her feet" then she'll die single. I appreciate the tip though. Anything helps. Basically at this point, I want to know what I did wrong or where it went wrong rather then try and fix it because I know that wont happen nor do I care at this moment.
Don't talk to her for a few days. Then after a few days, tell her that you think that being friends would be a great idea. Then be friends. (haha and then let me "sweep her off her feet" ;)

Read the DJ Bible on how to avoid this. Basically you have to tease her and be a sexual challenge.

I got LJBF'd by that one girl last week, but that was a freak case. It wasn't me, she was just over reacting at me not picking up my phone on sunday and thought I was with another girl LOL (she tends to overanalyze things [hence why i didnt want to go back to the car to get a condom on prom night with that one girl LOL], plus she has this medical condition where she has a chemical imbalance)
 

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Vice said:
Note: boogieman2188 and me are good friends in real life, and I've decided to publicly reply to his message to me via myspace:



Yeah, you went all the way to her softball games! You need to state your intentions early on to avoid falling into the dreaded friends zone! (As I told you multiple times the other night lol)

What's great is that you realized you have a problem. That's an awesome start, I can see you learning this stuff quickly.

And usually, once in the friend zone, it's really difficult to go to dating. Best thing to do is drop her as a romantic interest and go for other girls. And with me that shouldn't be a problem lol

At this point, all she's useful for is giving you advice on girls. And meeting her friends. And pretty much everything that you and your friends do, except with an attractive girl lol. Which is good, because if you hang out with her, and you meet a girl you're interested in, you can you your new friend to make the potential girlfriend value you more.
Would this be the guy you told about "being a DJ?"

And be careful taking advice on girls from girls....they don't always give the best advice. Trust me on that one. However, they can tell you a girl's reasoning for doing something.
 

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True on both aspects. And Vice, the chemical imbalance is enough alone to drop her I'd say. Crazy *****es aren't very good game. As far as the bible, I'll definitely look into it. Some of the things you've recommended I read so far hasn't harmed a thing so I think I'll keep taking your advice. Thanks.
 

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True on both aspects. And Vice, the chemical imbalance is enough alone to drop her I'd say. Crazy *****es aren't very good game. As far as the bible, I'll definitely look into it. Some of the things you've recommended I read so far hasn't harmed a thing so I think I'll keep taking your advice. Thanks.
By the way, your constant back and forth texting built too much familiarity. remember when i'd purposely keep my texts short with a double meaning, and then not reply for a while? that drives them nuts! It builds MYSTERY and INTRIGUE, which in turn builds ATTRACTION. constant texting builds FAMILIARITY and PREDICTABILITY, which is BORING.

And this whole community is built on the mistakes and heartbreaks of those before us, it's best to take their advice, because you'll notice after a while that certain situations come up, and you'll be able to respond accordingly. Experience is key. other's experience is just as important.

And I'm thinking of dropping her. i just want to sex her, but she's a virgin, plus she likes that one creepy guy. add her medical condition and i dont think it would work lol
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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High school dating problem, please read and give advice!
Go to the high school forum?

PS: The ENTER button won't blow up your computer. I promise.
 

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Rex Man said:
Go to the high school forum?

PS: The ENTER button won't blow up your computer. I promise.
For some reason new users can't edit their posts once posted.

I told him to reformat it so it was readable, but apparently he can't yet.
 

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Vice said:
By the way, your constant back and forth texting built too much familiarity. remember when i'd purposely keep my texts short with a double meaning, and then not reply for a while? that drives them nuts! It builds MYSTERY and INTRIGUE, which in turn builds ATTRACTION. constant texting builds FAMILIARITY and PREDICTABILITY, which is BORING.

And this whole community is built on the mistakes and heartbreaks of those before us, it's best to take their advice, because you'll notice after a while that certain situations come up, and you'll be able to respond accordingly. Experience is key. other's experience is just as important.

And I'm thinking of dropping her. i just want to sex her, but she's a virgin, plus she likes that one creepy guy. add her medical condition and i dont think it would work lol
Also true. Another think I must point out because you said I went straight to her games or w/e, there was only three left in the whole season, none of which I'd miss because I have other friends on the softball team.

Anyway, the texting might've been a little much. And I'm going to try the mysterious form of texting from now on. Leave them hanging every so often. And medical conditions, like I said, are never good.

But the more I get people's views of this problem and others like it, the more I begin to understand everything better. I'm glad you recommended me here. I've learned a lot thus far!
 

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Rex Man said:
Go to the high school forum?

PS: The ENTER button won't blow up your computer. I promise.
I posted in the High School forum.

And sorry about the whole wall of writing, like Vice said, I can't edit because I am a new user I guess. Maybe a mod could throw a few enters in there?

Besides, I wrote all this out on Microsoft Word first and it looked fine on that. I didn't realize how long it was when I posted.

I think you'll get over it though. :p
 

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I was finally able to edit my post. New and improved all with the help of the enter key!
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Good. Now read the bible and post in other topics!

remember that we're going to be hustlin' all summer, i need you to learn this stuff so we can minimize the time it takes to deal with chicks!
 

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Hell yeah Vice. I'm over this **** though. I have a pretty good idea of what went wrong, and I'm now understanding of how to prevent it in the future. I think I'll do just fine this summer! That doesn't mean I'm ready yet though. Trust me Vice, when I put my mind to something, I achieve it. You'll see.
 

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First of all you said that you got sad when she told you that you couldnt be more than friends. This is instinctive, but you have to remember at all times that YOU are the prize, not her. With this in mind, i do think you did a good job trying to find out what the heck is wrong with this girl that she drops you all of a sudden. MY BIGGEST ADVICE TO YOU is that if she ends up not liking you by Monday(or whenever the deadline thing was) do not hang over her. There is a fine line between finding out wats wrong (what u DID) and stalking her , and sulking (what you WILL NOT do, comprende?) Just remeber, there are tons of cool girls out there, who would fight each other for a chance at you, you dont need to be kept up by one.
 

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marines_hooorah said:
First of all you said that you got sad when she told you that you couldnt be more than friends. This is instinctive, but you have to remember at all times that YOU are the prize, not her. With this in mind, i do think you did a good job trying to find out what the heck is wrong with this girl that she drops you all of a sudden. MY BIGGEST ADVICE TO YOU is that if she ends up not liking you by Monday(or whenever the deadline thing was) do not hang over her. There is a fine line between finding out wats wrong (what u DID) and stalking her , and sulking (what you WILL NOT do, comprende?) Just remeber, there are tons of cool girls out there, who would fight each other for a chance at you, you dont need to be kept up by one.
Yeah, boogieman is a really cool guy, and when me and him hung out one night one of my girlfriends was eyeballing him when we were eating ;D

oh, and give me a call when you read this, we need to start getting an idea on what kind of clothes and **** you need to buy, you're too generic and I know that there is an alter ego inside of you just rearing to get out. Kind of like mine did LOL
 
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