High quality women

[jophil28]

entitled by who? god? the law? common decency?

Is EVERYBODY on planet earth entitled to be treated with courtesy, good manners, and consideration?

Yup !
Unless they disqualify themselves and have their entitlement canceled by acting like an aZZhole. In which case they have two choices.. to straighten up and fly right and eventually earn people's respect back OR continue acting like an Azz and suffer the alienation.

 

[Colossus]

This is a VERY thoughtful and clear spreadsheet.

What are red flags that suggest a woman is not of high quality? I already exclude the obvious: liars, drug addicts, players, cheaters...but what about the subtle ones?

I am sure a lot of us are normal decent guys who already have a baseline for a decent high quality woman. Is it possible to detect the red flags early? We can do all the tests and spend all the time in the world but some women can hide who they are too.

You become aware of these through experience. For example, I have some that are more on the obvious side, like coming from a dysfunctional family or having unreconciled issues with her dad; but then some that seem kind of silly but have proven true to me in the past---like girls with really short hair.

Some red flags are blatant and will present themselves early on (the first few dates), while others are more subtle and it takes a trained "eye" to pick up on them. Do a search on red flags and you should find a thread or two devoted entirely to that topic.

I also like what Jeffst said--no matter how polished and evolved you are personally, you are still going to have bad experiences with women. You may still make the occaisional bad choice or have a lapse in judgment---but these errors will be rare provided you have your own house in order.

 

[Andy_Dufresne]

When a decent woman shows me interest its hard to accept. When some slut or gold digger shows me attention, at least I know exactly what she wants and I manipulate the situation to get what I want without giving her what she wants (unless all she wants is sex, I got no money to give em!)

Once upon a time I was a complete AFC...not even before I was divorced I met this woman who was a 9 in looks, spoke three languages, owned her own
(successful) business, very trustworthy and was from boocoo bucks. We met, she was crazy over me, and I thought I was set for life. Long story short....I felt intimidated, felt I didn't deserve her, AFCd her to death, put her on a pedestal, and four months later got kicked to the curb. A year later she was married to some shmo with half a dozen kids, made less money than me, and was nowhere near as good looking or classy as myself.

Man I learned from that one.

Fast forward a few years - on an extended assignment I bump into a HB10, another business owner. Once I get to know her I realize she was more attractive, smarter, and from an even wealthier family, and just off a 20-year+ marriage. Jackpot. Again, at first I was intimidated, but this time I was able to shake it off by constantly repeating to myself,

"I AM A MAN. I HAVE PAID MY DUES. I DESERVE THIS!".

I ended up having a great relationship with an incredibile woman. We're now separated by a long distance, but she still emails me all the time and tells me how great I was, how she has not been able to find someone to replace me, and how she wishes we were together, etc.

Sh^t, when you got something good, act like you deserve it. Because you do. And act like you've been there before.

 

[mikeraw]

Speaking of high-quality women, I was analyzing my single, good-looking, female acquaintances and I reached the conclusion that I don't know a single candidate for an LTR much less marriage. It's scary how every single one of my plates is borderline crazy, or older than me, slvtty or single mom... or short, and I'm tall, so I refuse to end up with a short chick.

I have no idea where to go meet nice girls... hahaha

 

[reset]

Sh^t, when you got something good, act like you deserve it. Because you do. And act like you've been there before.

Good way to look at things.

I'd like to offer the idea that we are surrounded by what we are.

If we are high quality this should not be an issue.

If we are high quality we wouldn't even get to the point where we are bitter and jaded because we naturally gravitated towards what felt right, and naturally gravitated away from what did not.

Perhaps we all go through the rude awakening that being a spineless chump turns women off and brings out their "low quality character traits".... but after that... stop complaining.

Stop moaning and whining and saying "there are no good women out there, quality women are so rare"

F this negative mindset. No one wants to be around guys who think they have to suffer in order to find peace and happiness.

 

[Duffdog]

Speaking of high-quality women, I was analyzing my single, good-looking, female acquaintances and I reached the conclusion that I don't know a single candidate for an LTR much less marriage. It's scary how every single one of my plates is borderline crazy, or older than me, slvtty or single mom... or short, and I'm tall, so I refuse to end up with a short chick.

I have no idea where to go meet nice girls... hahaha

I have that same problem. Except for the tall thing, I know lots of tall girls that I would never marry. The deal breaker for me is that she has to have self-esteem and direction in her life, theres nothing worse than the female version of a slob.

Tell you what, Ill give you a 5'11 blonde 130lb model type if you give me a 5'6 athletic 120lb blonde cheerleader type...deal?

 

[Andy_Dufresne]

Stop moaning and whining and saying "there are no good women out there, quality women are so rare"

Right on. Too many of us wait for "quality". Just remember it's lonely at the top.

In order to get quality, we have to remember that the quality ones put their pants on one leg at a time, just like us.

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Taiyuu Otoko,
Well since you ask the Question,common decency,the concept of being a Gentleman is perhaps a little difficult to explain,if by the age of fourty two you haven't been able to grasp it,I don't see much hope for you.....Robert Burns wrote a beautiful piece of Poetry "A Man's a Man for a that"suggest you read it,digest it and apply it in lifes journey....The spin off for you if you repent and mend your ways Taiyuu is that it pulls the Ladies.

 

[MacAvoy]

MacAvoy, if you're prepared to sleep with someone after 3 dates then I think you have no self respect. Think about it.

First of all, I'm such a great amazing fun person to be around, that if a women isn't willing to get naked with me within 6 hours, then that to me is a HUGE red flag. She has issues. I've landed all kinds of quality women, doctors, professionals, you name it.

I've been with women that are 25-30, have only been with less than 5 guys and they were naked with me within 6 hours.

You would have known this person for a maximum of 6 hours and you're trusting your life (financial and physical) in 1mm of latex.

Again, this is a chumps mentality. I've banged dozens of women without even using condoms and my finanicial or physical life has never been in jeopardy. Its all about how you carry yourself. I've got mad social status, I've had women wanting to tie me down but the way I carry myself, they know they can't play that card with me. It won't work, as soon as they try any games like that, they see the error of their ways and immediately do whatever they can to come crawling back and are willing to do whatever to make it right again.

More importantly, I'm a great judge of character, only a low quality women would try to do that type of thing (get pregnant) and you therefore act accordingly.

Really, the only way to recognize high quality women straight of the bat is to gain experience by dating lots and lots of women. Patterns do emerge in time, and while you can never be 100% certain of another person's strength of character (nevermind after 2-3 dates), you can learn to eliminate low quality women fairly quickly.

I truly believe that by focusing on improving your own life and becoming a high quality male, you will naturally begin to attract high quality females as a matter of course.

If you put off marriage for some time and spend the first third or more of your life improving yourself, you will be the optimal position for choosing a high quality mate. Guys that marry young often wind up almost arbitrarily marrying their second or third girlfriend without proper vetting. Contrast this with a guy that waits till he's 35-40 to marry and in the meantime uses his resources to better himself: He has a wider pool of women available and, more importantly, has the life experience to recognize the kind of woman that is marriage material.

This is some of the best advice I've seen on here, its 100% solid.

 

[MacAvoy]

What is the biggest important to you?
sex or love?

I'd say that they are equally important, I wouldn't want to live without either.

 

[squirrels]

It seems most mens problems start from not choosing a high quality woman as a mate.

So how do we get around this when we are walking testosterone machines. Or are we simply at the mercy of our make up.

Is it better to be friends with someone first over a period of time so you know the person properly.

After reading a lot of articles on this site it is obvious that the consequences of poor decisions can be brutal.

The irony in this is a lot of woman I've met seem to lose interest very quicly when they realise it will take more than 2-3 dates to get you in the sack. In otherwords if they realise there is a man behind the penis then they go looking elsewhere.

These are the woman to avoid as they are looking for a man that can be easily manipulated.

It's not even a matter of high quality, it's a matter of compatibility.

Most men and women out there are willing to indulge sexually with someone they find attractive. It doesn't mean that they want to "spend time" with that person. 9 out of 10 women you meet, you're not gonna be compatible with them. If they realize this they may hang around anyway for a f*ck. If you're not offering a f*ck, they're not gonna waste their time dating you to get one if there are other guys just as physically attractive that they can hook up with.

You guys all talk a lot of crap about "high quality women", then you hook up with some slvt one time and start catching feelings for her, trying to play value games and high-quality vs. low-quality. Most women you just WEREN'T meant to be with on an emotional level.