Hi to all and question

[kickIT!]

Hi guys,
I'm reading this board quite a while and read all the standard stuff we have here, so please don't point me at that immediately

Ok, Question:

I'm at the house of a female friend of mine, together with another girl. We smoked some weed, and after that the other girl left.
So we are just the two of us, and she asks: "Ok, what to WE TWO do now...?" (not in english, but it was basically the same...). So after a while we decide to go to sleep, where a series of actions occurs that I just can't bring together.
First: She takes her pill in front of my eyes and says: "You never know what happens..."
I take this as a come-on, so when she is in the bathroom I takeover her bed and make some jokes about when she comes back. She says: "Ok, so I sleep on the floor, thats only fair for the host"

She then proceeds to get on the mattress on the floor and after a while tells me: "Ooooh, aaaaah, my back pains so much." "Of course I offer her a massage, which she refuses directly...."

Am I misinterpreting hard here or what do you think is up?

Oh, and she is more of a friend than a potential lover, but I think she would **** me...

Cheers
kickIT

 

[LikRetsam]

Girls are wierd. Can you detail what happened at the end cause right now all I can tell you is ignore it.

 

[splinterkb]

Girls are indeed wierd, and even more wierd when they're high. Don't take anything against you with a woman when they're high, because they're out of character.

 

[runner10_13]

or you were both high and in reality none of that really happened. Could be...never know...

 

[kickIT!]

UUhm, when THAT happened, we were already coming down, as it was 2 hours after we smoked one joint (although this was a nice one ). What happened after that was, that we both slept in seperate beds, I in hers and she in another one...

 

[Cloud-uk]

My first guess is you ahve experienced the phemonenon of "the anti-flirt".

Girls are not wierd. All their actions make logical sence, even if most of the time it's far too much effort to work them out.

However, girls flirt. A lot. It present society they do it to be polite, and hence what a girl says is usually meaningless courtesy verbal dribble. So thus derives "look at what they do, not what they say".

A girl can tell you to **** her and really dislike you on a very personal level. However, if a girl really wants your **** you pick it up from the body language- heavy kino, leaning in, you know- use your gut on this one, but blank out the crap that comes out of her mouth.

Now, what did she do? Took a contraceptive, refused a massage, and slept on the floor. But she did it while spouting this flirty "ooo look at me I've got boobs" crap that just confuses people and gets her nowhere. Personally, I understand why girls do the stuff they do, but I am still amazed at how mind-dentingly stupid they can be... flirting without the point of sex...that's like a porn movie with no money-shot. Goddamn ...

Of course, she could be playing games, maybe she loves you but is to afraid to blah blah blah... Who gives a ****? Yeah, maybe she'd **** you, but you shouldn't waste any time or effort over her. Maybe she'll get her act together.

Remember, girl's aren't stupid, at least not more stupid than most people. They can even be concidered smart whe it comes to dating. They are also conditional:

Don't take anything against you with a woman when they're high, because they're out of character.

Splinterkb makes a good point. Girls are conditional, this is something you have to take into account. Never, ever take what they do or say personally and very rarely take it seriously.

 

[kickIT!]

Good advice here, thx

Im almost 100% sure that she isn't into me, but I'm almost 100% sure, TOO, that she was into me last year...so go figure...

Whatever, I will just ignore everything like this, that comes from her, unless it's very obvious.

Thx
Christian

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by kickIT!
Good advice here, thx

Im almost 100% sure that she isn't into me, but I'm almost 100% sure, TOO, that she was into me last year...so go figure...

Whatever, I will just ignore everything like this, that comes from her, unless it's very obvious.

Thx
Christian

Yeah, in fact, ignore absolutely everythiing. Hell, theres this girl that does it constantly to me, and i hate it how everyone thinks shes the only girl im really in love with and that the others are just like covers and im like wtf.

But occasionally she just comes out (mainly to my AFC friends in front of me) and goes look im a girl with breasts, do this. Probably cos i used to tease her about it. But if you do actually want her, the best response is to pick up on it and whatever you do dont flirt back. Show that you understand but that your above that kinda games. It makes her really go for you and trust me I know.

 

[kickIT!]

Ok, i will ignore what I can, but she is in my group of friends, that I always hang out with, so that will be hard sometimes....
She really likes to do body contact with just everyone...and it would be weird, to not touch her anymore. Any advice here?
It's not that I NEED to **** her, she's just...uhm...nice

Christian

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by kickIT!
Ok, i will ignore what I can, but she is in my group of friends, that I always hang out with, so that will be hard sometimes....
She really likes to do body contact with just everyone...and it would be weird, to not touch her anymore. Any advice here?
It's not that I NEED to **** her, she's just...uhm...nice

Christian

its not dont touch her, its just dont come on to her, dont touch her back, it will drive her wild, especially if she is a little interested. If she rubs up on you, leave it, but dont rub back. Dont react.

EDIT: just to clarify, dont react to her touching you and dont flirt with her.

 

[kickIT!]

Ok, THAT would be easy to follow...I'm gonna try that for a while and report back

Christian

 

[kickIT!]

Another problem: What should I answer if she DIRECTLY asks why I don't touch/hug etc, her anymore?
She is the type of girl who would do that...

 

[JSH]

btw i hope you are still greeting her, touch her less than you would your guy friends but more than you would to a stranger (you dont want it to look like you are pulling anything off).

It depends on your attitude to her, but you can verbally flirt back. You can tease her, neg hit her. Ask why is she missing it, then blatently feel her up (caution only do it if you reckon you can get away with). I dont find you attractive any longer (but might lead on to you used to find her attractive). So just because you have big tits and are female, i should touch you. Be mock rude (not offensive or too playful).

Normally i would use the situation and only give a half answer.

But the aim is to confuse her, so she doesnt know what she is doing wrong and therefore feels like a womanly failure.

 

[kickIT!]

Just another time good advice, thx mate. I hope next time, I can figure things like that out myself...

 

[kickIT!]

Ok, follow-up on this.
Background is this:
In our gorup of friends (10 people) we have some internal problems right now, and this girl here told me on the phone, that she wanted to go out with other people this weekend, to get new experiences etc.
5 Minutes later she told me: " But you are my backup, right?"
I didnt say yes, but I think she will come to me for going out together...
I have this one try, I think, to seduce her.

She is a good friend, but no LJBF ever, and I'm sure she was attracted to me half a year ago (if it was physical, she would be still...)

Any clues as how to take this challenge?
Its NOT a regular pickup or so, it's a person I know for some time, so I can't usw standard tactics IMO.

-Christian

 

[Omega]

Ignore her, pretend your busy alot. As people have said, she's a flirt.

She took a contreceptive, I find that HILLARIOUS. I guess she thought you were going to rape her. LOL.

 

[JSH]

Originally posted by kickIT!
Ok, follow-up on this.
Background is this:
In our gorup of friends (10 people) we have some internal problems right now, and this girl here told me on the phone, that she wanted to go out with other people this weekend, to get new experiences etc.
5 Minutes later she told me: " But you are my backup, right?"
I didnt say yes, but I think she will come to me for going out together...
I have this one try, I think, to seduce her.

She is a good friend, but no LJBF ever, and I'm sure she was attracted to me half a year ago (if it was physical, she would be still...)

Any clues as how to take this challenge?
Its NOT a regular pickup or so, it's a person I know for some time, so I can't usw standard tactics IMO.

-Christian

aight, i think that the best solution would be to go on the kino, but instead of it being non sexual (wwouldnt work as u are friends and therefore low barriers) move up to more sexual touching, not groping though. Move up to the face and down to the body, more like brief caresses than a touch. (I know this kinda goes against kino). But if she is a real flirt, then dont give her what she wants, do the opposite, but again not rudely.

 

[kickIT!]

Originally posted by R3N3GAD3
Ignore her, pretend your busy alot. As people have said, she's a flirt.

She took a contreceptive, I find that HILLARIOUS. I guess she thought you were going to rape her. LOL.

Uuuhm, I don't know what youre talking about here...If she has to take a pill EVERYDAY to be protected, the only uncommon thing is, that she takes it IN FRONT of me.

Maybe I don't get the meaning here, could you rephrase that? Normally I have no problems understanding english, but this "language" I didnt use very often.

To JSH:
Ok, thought of some touching myself (no comments as to the other meaning of this sentence and I will try that with her.
As to the not giving what she wants...What exactly do you mean by this? I can't think of anything she could possibly want, that I could deny her, but my attention, and THAT I must give her, if we go out together...

-Christian

 

[kickIT!]

AAhh, to spice things up a bit, she now wants me to watch a video with her I just wanted her to give it to me, but she said it would be better if I watched it with her

 

[sitnam]

yo next time shes playin those games and all just be like "are you tryin to seduce me?" that always gets a straight up answer. if u know she into u only good things can happen. if she says yes then u f*** her . if she says "no", "i dunno", or "maybe" u can just be like "arent i good enough for u?" or somethin like that. then she'll end up saying yes or her body language will be asking for it. then u f*** her anyway. if shes into u then that'll work 99% of the time. thats whats great about the question... if shes into u, either way u end up gettin what u want .