Here's Why You Can't Get Chicks

[Glycerine2]

Because you suck, not just in the art of picking up chicks, but because most of you all around suck at life. The guys who "can't get chicks" are also the guys who have no social circle, no goals in life, no credentials. Ever wonder why that stoner "loser" has the hottie and you don't? Because he has the personality, he has the cohorts, he has the outgoing attitude - and you don't, loser.

Is it about looks? Is it really? Nope, simply not true. It's about SOCIAL GROUPS. Are you in one? Do you have friends??? Time and time again I see people moan and groan on these forums about not having woman in their life, and 90% of the time it's because they have no friends. But let's go back to the looks aspect for a minute. Again, you see the HB 9 with the "below average" looking guy and ask yourself "What the??" You fools think as though this guy did a completely blind approach on this chick, he didn't. He probably knew her for a while. She probably enjoyed his company, and both have a good time hanging out with their friends together. It's about the atmosphere. Do you guys know what friends do? Friends go bowling, friends go to amusement parks, friends hang out with each other to have a good time. And if you're a chick and are in the presence of a guy who you enjoy being around, enjoy sharing time with, and has a great personality, you can't help but feel attraction for him. That's what social groups do for you. They present opportunity.

Forget all this BS about having an "alpha male attitude, ****y & funny", and all this other crap that's brainwashed your minds. Be a cool person to be around, get along with people and get a life. Because you know what? The only kind of guys with no personality who are gonna be able to pull in HB 9 chicks are guys that have looks equivalent of Brad Pitt. And even those guys had to of had some balls to ask the girls out. So if you don't fall into that small percentage of guys, you're screwed.

Go out. Get off the computer. Get some friends, meet woman, show the world your personality and things will fall into place.

Rome wasn't build in a day.

 

[Legend]

dude stfu

Cant get any girls because you have no goals? How about when your problem is when you have to many goals?

You are a complete moron, what were you trying to do with this post? Get it in the DJ bible? Try again keyboard jockey.

:moon:

 

[Glycerine2]

DJ bible? wtf is that?

I'm just pointing out the truth you lipstick lesbian.

 

[Legend]

pointing out the truth about a a bunch of people you have no clue about? Girls are just one part of there lives.... Im sure most people viewing this board and these posts have life goals.

rome wasnt built in a day......ok thank you for pointing that out. You go girl:cheer:

 

[TedJustAdmitIt]

Is this advice applicable ONLY to those of us with well defined square jaws or can the more...slender faced gentlemen among us benefit from adopting this attitude?

 

[sapphire]

Actually there is A RING OF TRUTH to what glycerine is saying.

 

[backbreaker]

I get what he was trying to say... he just didn't say it right and missed some extremely key points.

 

[snintel]

Originally posted by Glycerine2
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Social circles are important in college... because girls don't want to go on little isolated lonely dates with you on Sat. night. They want to be at parties or with large groups of friends.

 

[Socialreject]

Originally posted by sapphire
Actually there is A RING OF TRUTH to what glycerine is saying.

Yah to bad it's totally covered up by a bunch of BS and vitoil so only those with keen perception can see it...

And basically he could have just said "good friends and social circles are important"...

Alot shorter isn't it? And alot less insulting aswell.

Glycerine2,

What's the problem dude? Someone gave you an enema and sewed your butthole shut? You sound kinda bloated with hot air and alot of crap...

Seriously. Getting gf's out of social circles is a very common thing and attracktion doesn't HAVE to hit at the first impression, it CAN form over time. But usually it's more powerfull when it's formed in first impressions. Furthermore it's much easyer to form attracktion at first impression, hence why dating books focus more on first impressions. Overall it's more effective.

I suppose you have never heard of forming social circles neither? Maybe with people in your area? Things like that? Would that also be considered losermatically going around trying to get laid in your book?!

Besides, the activities you mention are a prime example of male bonding activities. While activities are a nice distracktion on rapport building dates, women ultimatly do not bond through sharing activities but through conversation, feelings, emotions...

To comment on your ****y and funny alpha male objections... I believe noone should ever try to be anything but theirselves. BUT (and this is a big but), being yourself unhindered of any insecurities, shyness and other psychological problems. Now this is a big difference. Who you are combined with all your bagage is not who you are without it.

Most of the guys who have issues with women and dating in general are actually pretty fun guys to hang around with once you gotten to know them, once you've built rapport with them. Now if they could be this guy 24/7 that would be great and everyone could see they actually DO have alot to offer.

Ever have a friend, who you thought was funny, witty and basically a good moral man, but for some reason women avoid him like the plague? This is the perfect example. This man is actually NOT being himself around women AT ALL and that's what spooks them away.

Now in all your Godlyness you probably never could have guissed that there are people who need help with their psychological problems. The fact that therapy eats up billions of $ probably never clued you in either... Because frankly that's what this site, alot of others like it and the tons of books out there are really about. Setting asside the buzzword bullcrap that gets sold by the dozen who teach men to manipulate and lie to women ofcourse... since that is no more about personal development than the breedinghabbit of camels is...

 

[backbreaker]

Look..;


The thing is, right now, everyone on this board, from the Ultra DJ's, to the AFC's.. from the Handsome good looking men, to the Nerdy guy types, can go out and get a
woman right now.


But the catch is, it might not be the woman you want. She might be a hedgehog or a whale, but she is a woman.


Ah, so you CHOOSE not to be with Sonic and Shammu... So it is your ChOICE to be single rather than to have a woman.


YOu choose this path because you feel you bring more to the table and derserve better than a video game charater and a killer whale.

So, know that we know this, that means that ovbiously there is an imbalance somewhere along the lines of precieved value. You either precieve your value to be higher than what everyone else thinks it is, or women of the right "value" don't consider you to be of equal or grater value of the calibur of men they can get with.

The key it so hedge the scale to were the values equate.

IN other words, when it's all said and done, it's about Status. "Good looks, a strong personality, good earning potential, power, good in bed, all these are Statue Symbols of some sort.

Invest time in yourself, and the rewards will be tenfold. Read a book inastead of watching TV. Workout instaed of playing Video games. Put extra effort into your stuies intead of hanging out with friends. There are things that will in the long run, make you have more "status".


For the original poster, I have 2 best friends... for the most part that is my social circle. I have probably 50 or so aquantiences, but I only hang out with 2 people 98% of the time.

I wrote a post yesterday, that said that the mority of people date not out of l ove or even lke, but because they don't think they can do better, or because they are with someone because he is conveient. They like his company, they don't love it. He's not bad.. He "will do" for now. They are with someone who is a stopgap until a real man comes along. Women actually rationalize this to you.

Anytime a woman has to come around to you, assuming you havne't bettered yourself in her absense, it's not like she just noticed your "great qualities", it's because she isn't feeling you as she would a real man and figures you will "do" until someone better comes along.

A friend of mind, better yet an aquantience, introduced me to this guy she was talking to, and she told me when he left "ah, I am just waiting for something better to come along, once it does he's history"


-Ye who has too many friends, has no friends.

- Aesop's Fables


A "DJ" who expands his social cirlce for the sake of meeting chicks to me is just as bad as an AFC. Because you are trying to find ways to make success more guarateed... ther eis nothing wrong in my opinion with alot of friends, but for the sake of meeting women, it's quite pathetic.

i barely have time for my two friends, let alone a larg e group of people

 

[sapphire]

Originally posted by backbreaker
Look..;


The thing is, right now, everyone on this board, from the Ultra DJ's, to the AFC's.. from the Handsome good looking men, to the Nerdy guy types, can go out and get a
woman right now.


But the catch is, it might not be the woman you want. She might be a hedgehog or a whale, but she is a woman.


Ah, so you CHOOSE not to be with Sonic and Shammu... So it is your ChOICE to be single rather than to have a woman.


YOu choose this path because you feel you bring more to the table and derserve better than a video game charater and a killer whale.

So, know that we know this, that means that ovbiously there is an imbalance somewhere along the lines of precieved value. You either precieve your value to be higher than what everyone else thinks it is, or women of the right "value" don't consider you to be of equal or grater value of the calibur of men they can get with.

The key it so hedge the scale to were the values equate.

IN other words, when it's all said and done, it's about Status. "Good looks, a strong personality, good earning potential, power, good in bed, all these are Statue Symbols of some sort.

Invest time in yourself, and the rewards will be tenfold. Read a book inastead of watching TV. Workout instaed of playing Video games. Put extra effort into your stuies intead of hanging out with friends. There are things that will in the long run, make you have more "status".


For the original poster, I have 2 best friends... for the most part that is my social circle. I have probably 50 or so aquantiences, but I only hang out with 2 people 98% of the time.

I wrote a post yesterday, that said that the mority of people date not out of l ove or even lke, but because they don't think they can do better, or because they are with someone because he is conveient. They like his company, they don't love it. He's not bad.. He "will do" for now. They are with someone who is a stopgap until a real man comes along. Women actually rationalize this to you.

Anytime a woman has to come around to you, assuming you havne't bettered yourself in her absense, it's not like she just noticed your "great qualities", it's because she isn't feeling you as she would a real man and figures you will "do" until someone better comes along.

A friend of mind, better yet an aquantience, introduced me to this guy she was talking to, and she told me when he left "ah, I am just waiting for something better to come along, once it does he's history"


-Ye who has too many friends, has no friends.

- Aesop's Fables


A "DJ" who expands his social cirlce for the sake of meeting chicks to me is just as bad as an AFC. Because you are trying to find ways to make success more guarateed... ther eis nothing wrong in my opinion with alot of friends, but for the sake of meeting women, it's quite pathetic.

i barely have time for my two friends, let alone a larg e group of people

This statement is very true and something that many guys just do not understand.

Women, by and large are very fearful of being alone and will latch on to almost any guy who gives her attention provided he is not hideous or a serial murderer. These guys I call qap fillers because that is the purpose they serve. They fill the gap of companionship, sex, etc. until such time the right guy comes around.

How many times have you seen a couple together and sensed absolutely no chemistry. Someone here said that 80% of women are not happy in their relationship and are begging for that right guy or the proverbial knight in shining armor to sweep her off her feet.

Or sometimes a girl, recently broke up with her long time bf, will go out with different guys only to dump those guys when she sees the opportunity to go back with the prior bf.

Also, women, especially the hot ones, have backups or a bullpen of men to ensure that they will be entertained at any given time. (Beware of these types of girls-they are usually manipulative AW's).

If she wants to go out with Steve but he is nowhere to be found, she will call Pete and so on. She is guaranteed in having some unsuspecting chump take her out to an expensive restaurant only to meet up with another guy later on that night to be entertained in other ways (i,e sex). I have seen this many times and have been a victim as well.

I will be posting a thread dealing with how to spot the red flags and to filter out problematic women.

 

[Socialreject]

backbreaker...

Actually there are men who couldn't get a woman... ANY woman for the life of them. And the reason is quite simply that they cannot even bring themselves to open their mouths and say 'hi'... let alone do anything as daunting as turning up the heat on them.

Equity is just another fluent concept. One day you may wake up with an answer to something and suddenly you are more valuable. One day you might find a new hobby, lose 20 pounds and find yourself playing a different league.

Btw, status symbols will not wiggle you out of your class...ever, unless you decide to actively become part of that class. You can have Bill Gates money and Clooneys looks but if your an outback redneck you still have 0 class and hence 0 social status. Which is actually not a big deal because loads of women have no class whatsoever and prefer to be with a redneck then to be with a classy, uptight, mansion type. It's more important to fish in the right ponds then it is to look, act, have a certain amount of money or 'be' any special way.

This is among the best posts on this board. Its author is absolutely right. And, further, its author shouldn't get discouraged by hearing a bunch of responses from guys who obsessively believe that if they master just one more trick, they'll be golden.

Many of the finer points in this website are valid: they help you get cleverer, more relaxed, more quality.. But even despite all the rest, if you lack something as basic as friends and a social group, and your life looks like:


Self-improve - read up on SS - go out & try - come back & do after-action reports - repeat...

Then you seem to be at a distinct disadvantage as compared to a guy who circulates in a group of 60 people whom he knows better than merely their names & saying hi to them passing them in the hallway!

If this is among the best posts on this forum then i lament this forum...

The guys you are describing are uhm... how should i put it? A horrible cliché of a textbook nerd? Something that is rarely seen in a real world situation... If ones life consists only of that, then i wonder how these people earn money, get groceries, etc.

Btw building social circles is about building rapport upto a point where people are more than acquaintances (you know their names, talk to them on a first name basis, you are entitled to favors, you have been to their homes, you stay in touch generally, this represents power, leverage) and they should not be composed of only ex-ONS or gf's. This is something you actively WORK ON. The people who have powerful and large social circles naturally are very rare indeed, although many have them and advance their lives through them.

I personally have only a few close friends with whom I've shared just about everything that isn't locked away in my own private vault. These are the people who have my unconditional love and attention. Everyone else is only there because they benefit me in some way... whether this be simply the pleasure of their company, the added perks they grant me, the career possibilities it may open up, the desirable knowledge they posses or simply the stuningly beautiful sisters, daughters or friends they have is of no matter to me. They are acquaintances and they present benefits to me, as i do to them...

And even though you may never be as good as a natural people magnet, you can be good by learning, practising and repeating. Dating and being attractive is a skill, just like any other. It's the skill of being yourself without a doubt in your mind. It's the skill of doing what you want to do, when you want to and how you want to in that specific area of your life. It is as much a skill as slaughtering your way to the top of any corporation is...

If your undertone means to suggest that people who actively improve, learn, evaluate and repeat are pathetic nerds who cannot understand they simply aren't 'good enough' than you are naive for better words. Results come after you've worked through all the defeats and kept going, while every step of the way keeping an open mind to new input, critically evaluating it and putting it into practice.

If you want something, you earn it. This is the one and only way anything is ever accomplished. I personally think it's a real shame that many people never realize their full potential because they simply give up. Because they decide to let themselves get lost in the illusion that snobby kids decided to create for them when they look down their noses and state that they will never have anything better to offer than what they have.

All you need is a willingness to learn, to keep an open mind, to duplicate what others have done. Basically a willingness to be taught and be led before you can teach and lead.

And now i'm totally done typing because my fingers are bleeding and i can't believe i've wasted this much time on this troll topic!

 

[Socialreject]

Originally posted by Glycerine2
DJ bible? wtf is that?

I'm just pointing out the truth you lipstick lesbian.

Ok i lied i'm not done...

I think this post completely follows into the flare of the author, who obviously has some kind of deeply ingrained delusion of possesing a knowledge of any such thing as 'the truth'...

Btw, eventhough you got a point in what you said in the last line of your post, everything else was smug, arrogant and just a big ol' contentless rant/whine.

todeloo!

 

[backbreaker]

Actually there are men who couldn't get a woman... ANY woman for the life of them. And the reason is quite simply that they cannot even bring themselves to open their mouths and say 'hi'... let alone do anything as daunting as turning up the heat on them.

And the reson they couldn't say hi is because they are nervous about speaking to the woman, because they feel that they are out of his league, in which case you can always go up to a UG and talk to her... no one gets butterflies talking to ugly women.



hence the fact that you choose to be alone...

Equity is just another fluent concept. One day you may wake up with an answer to something and suddenly you are more valuable. One day you might find a new hobby, lose 20 pounds and find yourself playing a different league.

wTF? I really don't understand what you are trying to say. Of course if you do thoose things you are in a different "league" but you proved my entire point. There isn't a league of looks, or class, or money, but yet will and determination.

People who want to be great and fight to be great, are great. Simple as that. You just odn't wake up and loose 20 pounds, you workout, eat right and in due time it happens. In otherwords, it takes WILL and DETERMINATION to do these things.

Everyone who has every accomplished something meaningufl had the desire to do it, and the will and endurance to fight though troubled times to acheve whatever goal it was they were trying to acheive.

These are the men, the great men, who can literarly pick and choose who they want in life, and what direction they wish to pursue in life.

Btw, status symbols will not wiggle you out of your class...ever, unless you decide to actively become part of that class. You can have Bill Gates money and Clooneys looks but if your an outback redneck you still have 0 class and hence 0 social status. Which is actually not a big deal because loads of women have no class whatsoever and prefer to be with a redneck then to be with a classy, uptight, mansion type. It's more important to fish in the right ponds then it is to look, act, have a certain amount of money or 'be' any special way.

no one ever said status symblos would wiggle one out of class, you are putting words in my mouth.. some of the richest people in the word are as ignort as can be.

But YOU are assuming MONEY= Class/worth.

There is more to one person than what is in their bank account. That concept is materlistic, and while there are materlistic people out there, I am not one of them.

A well rounded person has enough sense not to only be able to provide a comfortable living, but to reasonably educated.

If this is among the best posts on this forum then i lament this forum...

i'ts not... Go the Archive and read some of the posts past.. thoose are great posts.

Btw building social circles is about building rapport upto a point where people are more than acquaintances (you know their names, talk to them on a first name basis, you are entitled to favors, you have been to their homes, you stay in touch generally, this represents power, leverage) and they should not be composed of only ex-ONS or gf's. This is something you actively WORK ON. The people who have powerful and large social circles naturally are very rare indeed, although many have them and advance their lives through them.

OK, you just agreed with me...

there is nothing wrong with knowing alot of people.


I SAID KNOWING ALOT OF PEOPLE, ,JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MEEITNG AND BEDDING WOMEN IS PATHETIC

If you want something, you earn it.

right on

 

[Verbal]

i think there is some logic to this guys post. yes it is good to be fun to be around. on the other hand, it is rediculous to think you need to be with a group to get chicks. maybe this works for him or he thinks so. on the other hand i just moved to a new city and i dont know very many people and i seldom go out with groups. but, check my resume and you'll see im well off with girls. if he needs a group to get some sort of social value thats his thing. it makes him feel comfortable, however....ITS NOT NECISARY.

 

[Brak86]

i disagree to this guys post....atleast to some degree. For me, its just fear. I have a great personality and i have so many friends. I just am afraid to get sexual with girls and im afraid of rejection. My not being able to get girls has no relation to my personality because my personality is great compared to many.

 

[Socialreject]

backbreaker, i'm sry...

What i meant was that class largely constitutes social standing. Ie more then personlity, money, power. From my point of view, having money only draws one kind of woman into your bed, gold diggers. Women with high class will be more impressed by a clean and well maintained continental of whom the owner opens the door for them than they will be by a slob in a top-end benz who honks the horn when he comes to pick her up.

On rare ocasions, a lower class , non gold digging woman will be somewhat impressed if you show up in an expensive car. It's not a shagg for free ticket but a little extra which might tip the ods for you if you don't screw the rest up.

I only bring this up because you mentioned 'earning potential' in your first post. It's much more important that you love what you do than it is howmuch money you make at it. This is just another one of those things that make you a fun person to be around. As opposed to a muttering frustro who hates his job... Ofcourse hehe, all things in their propper aspect. If you're a guy struggling to pay bills all the time that's not exactly a pro, but you understand what i'm getting at, i'm sure

 

[PRMoon]

*sigh* everybody has their own nitch and method for picking up ladies and gaming. We all have a set of skills and strengths for which we can all achieve. The only way we fail is doing the same things over and over again (resulting in failure) expecting different results [the definition of insanity]. If you want to get somewhere with girls or whatever other aspect of life you're not satisfied with the results that you've recieved then you need to try something else, even (especially) if that means going outside your comfort zone and expanding your horizons.

that's it

 

[undesputable]

glycerine, if you would have posted this on the high school forum i would have agreed with your 100%....

Ive been in the around pretty much every social circle in one way or another at my school and i pull more or less chicks depending on which group of people im hanging out with.

 

[Glycerine2]

That's another thing...

90% of the guys here have no chicks because they have no balls. I really wonder how many guys on this forum have asked woman out.

I bet you dollars to donuts it ain't a DJ ratio.

FEAR is probably the biggest detriment.

FEAR of REJECTION