Here's a class-act for you...

[squirrels]

Let me see what you guys think. I've already started coming to my own conclusions.

This girl I had a SERIOUS crush on 5 years or so ago just IM'd me out of the blue a couple nights ago. I mean bad AFC one-itis, complete with the desperate spill-your-guts maneuver that effectively ended all contact between us.

Naturally I'm looking a little more carefully at her this time through...and for once, I'm actually starting to get reads on her...all these little "red flags" that I didn't notice before because I was too head-over-heels for her. This was in the infancy of my "game years", so not only was I not ready for it, I didn't even see it COMING.

Some of the sh!t I'm talking about:

NAME-DROPPING: Anything you start to talk about, she seems to know SOMEONE famous related to it. Mention the UFC fight this weekend, she knows someone who corners for Randy Couture. You like rap music? She used to hang out with Jay-Z. Just last night she's talking some nonsense about going to a restaurant where "it's not unusual to see Joe Biden or **** Cheney sitting across the room from you". Her female friends are all Playboy-playmates, female fitness champions, etc.

MANY MALE "FRIENDS": They just seem to come up in conversation..."My friend took me here", "I was hanging out with a friend of mine the other night and he's...". If you ask her about whether she's "dating" them, though, you get, "No, it's not a date...at least I don't THINK it is...hmmm" Like she's leaving it ambiguous on purpose, just to get you in that competitive mindset.

ALTERNATING BETWEEN EXTREMES: Specifically, gender extremes. One minute, she's a "tomboy", talking about sports cars and boxing, then the next minute, she sends me this link to these high-heels only a stripper would wear..."what do you think of these?"

OVER-THE-TOP DETACHED SEXUALITY: Last night, she sent me these links to these sexually explicit websites. Not just porn...stuff seemingly designed for "shock value". Videos about beastiality, flash games with Japanese cartoons engaging in sadomasochism...all under the, "You won't believe how f'd up this is" banner. So it's "safe", because it's only entertainment. For what it's worth, I've been to "second base" with her...I don't know if I could've gotten any further or not, because there was a lot of sexual tension and push-pull on BOTH sides when I was dating her. She plays the "good girl" card when it suits her...and there are times when I pulled take-aways to try to boost the tension but never reconnected.

VAGUE PERSONALITY: She is always talking about how she is doing all of these things, has these hobbies, wants to go to this school, have this job...it changes every so often, but when you try to pin her down on anything or dig for details, the answer is always, "I dunno...LOL". Almost like her whole personality is "vaporware". I always feel like I'm talking to a "front", like she's keeping her real thoughts and feelings shut away in some closet somewhere. Or like she doesn't have them at ALL.

Now...what would be YOUR "diagnosis" of a girl who exhibits these kinds of traits?

I already know what I think. I just want to see what YOU think.

 

[Trail Mix-A-Lot]

Nut Bars aren't worth the time.

Well, it's obvious that the girl in question has severe emotional problems.

You are a long time contributor and have a sharp mind when it comes to things of this nature, so I imagine your question is more for entertainment purposes.

I myself have, in the past, fallen for women exactly like this one that you describe. The experience was soul sucking and humiliating to say the least. At this stage in my life (I'm a little older than you) I would just pack it in and have nothing to do with a girl like this. There are so many better options out there than to subject yourself to a crazy person.

It is unbelievably liberating to find that you can actually have the girl with a great ass, gives great head, loves to dress sexy, is witty and is completely feminine without also being a nut bag.

I believe *the key* is to get to a point in your life where you are so damn happy being single. You life is filled with so many interesting things and you are so busy that you almost don't have time for a girlfriend or a LTR. At that point the tables are turned; women are completely drawn to you and you pick and choose

Think about some of the famous ladies men of today. Gerard Butler for instance. He has a life dominated by the pursuit of his passions. Women are just a byproduct. I mean, could you imagine Gerard Butler coming on to Leno and saying "I can't stop thinking about this lass from five bloody years agoo..."

Trail-Mix-A-Lot

 

[Chromeo]

Im gonna guess you can probably throw alcoholic in there two. Was dating a girl like this for a minute. They dont know what the hell they want and they will keep you around just for the fun of it to have someone to blab too and take them out when they dont have something else going on. If anyone is stuck on a girl like this(everyone wants what they cant have and this is THE ONE you definitely cant have), you need to get out. At least do not get the oneitis for a girl like this. You will get walked all over.

I dumped one of these girls and then after pleading from her took her back. Guess what she said later after another break up "I treated you like **** and you took me back" "wtf was I supposed to do?" "nothing you should have just dumped me"

do you get this!? the girl begged for me to take her back but lost all respect for me doing so. And she knew better than I did, its not worth to take ****, and anyone who does is AFC.

and guess what she still tries to talk to me and "be friends" cuz "you shouldnt throw away a friendship just cuz im sleeping with someone else".... BULL, she wants me for entertainment when its convenient to her.

Think about some of the famous ladies men of today. Gerard Butler for instance. He has a life dominated by the pursuit of his passions. Women are just a byproduct.

Trail-Mix-A-Lot

She even told me this once "you have no passion, your boring" why? because I had the oneitis, I put spending time with her first. I didnt even understand at that point, I was thinking to myself, I have passion I have all kinds of hobbys. But I did not show that by puting my interest in her in front of it, made her my #1 hobby essentially.


Squirells this is a class act, and can somewhat respect these woman for weeding out AFC's as fast as they can, but most of the time they will only be able to fall for the biggest *******s.

 

[jonwon]

Let me see what you guys think. I've already started coming to my own conclusions.

NAME-DROPPING: This is a product of feeling important. It tells me she is concerned about how people perceive her, to me it shows a person with a low to moderately low self-esteem. It's like that kid in school who wants people to like them so they make up grandiose claims to get people to respond.

MANY MALE "FRIENDS': We all know this one, it's a ploy to tell a guy that she has options well telling a guy subconsciously he better tow the line otherwise she may just break one of her other coc*s in glass cases. To me this is a deal breaker, these women come with nothing but trouble.

ALTERNATING BETWEEN EXTREMES: Again this goes back to the feeling of importance, displaying a fickle nature, no grounding on 'self', she simply slots and weaves to whatever thing she can think of will get her the attention or the important feeling she so secretly and subconsciously craves.

OVER-THE-TOP DETACHED SEXUALITY: To me this is playing it hot and cold, to test those boundaries but also showing a little blue-ball-ville in the process, a good test to see if she is actually what she is making out to be (I believe deep down this is a means to reach out her true message that she wants to be dominated and as* fuc*ed till she is red and raw) is to call her out on this and make her appear to be a perv!

VAGUE PERSONALITY:

It seems to me this girl as no sense of self, she is simply still trying to find herself, almost immature, but more or less a person who has no self identity.

These types of people will drift to a person with a strong solid core and a definitive world view, no doubt her fickle nature will bend and morph to the person with a stronger frame.

I wouldn't write her off, if anything i'd be treating her like a child looking for attention, treat it has such and you'll probably be rewarded.

I feel you messed it up the first time around is because you attached yourself to a reed, thinking it was a rock, when it seems clear she is looking for a rock, when she found a reed.

I.e become that rock, tell her what you are about, make no apology, bust on her, the rude links is a perfect chance to do that, make her bend to your frame, give her some verbal spanking in a fun manner, be firm and be pritty much like a rock.

This person is fickle, and requires a strong man to reign her in.

That is if you can get past the male friends, but i suspect if the right guy came along she would drop the so called male friends in a heart beat, I suspect they are nothing but an extension for her to gleam that feeling of importance and if anything they are a good filtering process to weed out the pretenders from the naturals, i.e if she keeps the mates on, ditch her, but I am under no doubt she will leave them in the dust.

I am concerned your trying to find fault, to stop yourself from getting involved with her! Your going through a dry spell, it didn’t work out before, I suspect knowing this, your finding ways to limit the blow if she rejects you.

As far as females go she is A –typical, but she deserves a chance, let her prove herself and personally her nature seems great for a DJ mind to penetrate, she seems to have no self image, i.e she wants a strong willed, self dependent male, when what she probably finds is nothing but boys. It sounds like she is struggling with her identity and doesn’t know who or what she wants to be, i.e in my book, that is an open book to pretty much bend to your-frame. She is simply a vogue magazine girl, a bottom shelf gossip magazine. These women are great to bend to your frame, they can be submissive, but they need a dominant male and I personnally feel they secretly want it too

Some men keep a dry spell going by rejecting women on the flimsiest pretence, this isn't marriage, have some fun once in a while - Personnally, I'd use it like a social experiment, to see how she responds to a firm dominant male that makes her work for the attention and spanks her accordingly, I suspect highly she will respond very positivly. Too many men reward these women like they have their **** figured out, even going so far as to reject his male self to bend to a fickle female, swollowed up in the bright lights of puss*-ville, when from the face of it, it seems this person has no identity, she is simply an extension of a gossip magazine, an average consumerist, celebrity junkie, desperate to get some self identity and feeding of the 'feeling of importance' like a fish to water -. Her reality is nothing more than the MTV, celebrity gossip nonesense, i.e she is a sheep (she spends her life being told how to live and how to act by mainstream), ripe for the slaughter.

 

[squirrels]

if anything i'd be treating her like a child looking for attention

Exactly. :yes:

What *I* see here is a bona-fide ATTENTION WH0RE.

She puts up this front that she's the most interesting woman in the world. You get to thinking that when she DOES drink beer, she prefers Dos Equis. She cultivates this air of constant mystery and adventure...but when you step back and look from a distance, you start to see the "strings".

Name-dropping - Look at me, I am involved in everything with everyone! :cheer:

Exotic friends - Look at me, I associate with so many cool people! :cheer:

Playing both the tomboy and the girly-girl - Look at me, I can be anyone you want me to be! (She actually said to me the other night, "I love my versatility!" LOL) :cheer:

The sex stuff - Look at me, I have all these wild sexual ideas! :cheer:

She puts up this grandiose front of all these fascinating things going on in her life...many of which I'd be willing to believe are TRUE. But the one thing that seems out-of-place in this whole amazing life...is HER HERSELF.

How can someone so vague and flaky possibly live such an interesting life? By being a master of manipulating OTHER people.

What I'm dealing with, here, seems to be nothing short of a MASTER ATTENTION WH0RE.

And the one thing that bugs me more than anything is that I'm finding it impossible to tell whether she's incredibly SMART or incredibly STUPID. I.e., whether she just has been this way her whole life because it's always worked, or because she's consciously and deliberately working her way inside men's minds.

She's not even THAT attractive...likely you'd fix her at maybe a 7. But she has a very pretty face and an array of moves that I've only seen the likes of on strippers and pornstars. The coy facial expressions, the ability to instantly be vulnerable and effeminate one second, and then when you try to "bust her" on it, switch back to the "tough girl" attitude the next, the ability to talk about the most ridiculous sh!t and make it seem like the most natural thing in the world.

I am concerned your trying to find fault, to stop yourself from getting involved with her! Your going through a dry spell, it didn’t work out before, I suspect knowing this, your finding ways to limit the blow if she rejects you.

Oh absolutely! Being down on my game, I don't even know if I'm fit for the challenge. :nervous: And to be honest, I don't even know if there's any benefit to "winning" this one.

But still, there's some natural draw I have to women like this. Maybe it's because they DO have the ability to get inside men's heads that I see them as some kind of "challenge". Like I'd rather dive headfirst into this, get turned out and embarassed, than admit that I was "scared".

When I talk to her, she creates "static" in my mind that just seems to draw my attention...I have to fight to not break under the pressure to revert back to total AFCdom. And she hasn't even said that much...again, if I sit back and think, there's really NOTHING to her. So how does what is basically a little girl in a 20-something's body wield so much power?

Some men keep a dry spell going by rejecting women on the flimsiest pretence, this isn't marriage, have some fun once in a while -

I can certainly relate to that. For example, I've used my house being a mess as an excuse not to invite women over, but on the flip-side of that coin, I don't bother to clean it. Simply put, effort leads to more effort.

But it's more than that here. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I don't want to walk right back into a bad situation. Again, I'm just not sure I'm in a state fit to take this on.

Personnally, I'd use it like a social experiment, to see how she responds to a firm dominant male that makes her work for the attention and spanks her accordingly, I suspect highly she will respond very positivly.

I like your perspective on it.

Women like this, the attention-wh0res, they are "The Matrix". I personally feel as though they're the ones holding the "keys to Don Juan". They play the game better than anyone, in fact, they ARE the game. Like I said, she's vaporware as a human being. But the way she gets inside my head makes it VERY real.

I've been trying to "bend the spoon", so to speak. But to "bend the spoon" first requires the spoon itself to exist.

Her reality is nothing more than the MTV, celebrity gossip nonesense, i.e she is a sheep (she spends her life being told how to live and how to act by mainstream), ripe for the slaughter.

Oh she's a Cosmo-reader, there's no question.

"Slaughter", huh? Interesting...

Somehow I feel like in this whole "game"...women, dating, sex, etc...I've finally got all of the pieces, but I either don't have the brains or don't have the balls to put them all together.

 

[5string]

Sounds like histrionic personality disorder (HPD). Geez squirrels. Please be very careful with this one.

 

[Amazing]

She won't be too heartbroken after you hit it and quit it, since she had seen it happen before.

Go get her tiger.


edit: after i read your reply, her being a 7, and you obviously having an issue with not being able to distance yourself mentally, scratch this one..

if you could be cool headed throughout it all and know you just want to hit it and you don't care what she is gonna leave on your voicemail later then yes, but like you said she can influence you..may be its your desire to help innocent women (we all do..) may be her being feminine (remember this old proverb = "girls with the softest voice killed the most men") but whatever it is, figure it out and don't let yourself be used.

 

[squirrels]

Sounds like narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). Geez squirrels. Please be very careful with this one.

Ehh...I thought there might be a "Cluster B" element to this. But it's much more subtle than that. People on this forum like to throw around Cluster B terms whenever they run into a woman who has a flair for the dramatic...which is probably 95% of women out there, in one way or another.

There's a definite "daddy-issue" here, though. Her father was out of her life early.

Either way...this discussion, especially jonwon's comments, has led away from just this one girl...it's got me re-examining my core beliefs about the male-female dynamic. Not trying to nerd out, but it may merit another, more general thread.

edit: after i read your reply, her being a 7, and you obviously having an issue with not being able to distance yourself mentally, scratch this one..

"7" is a relative number, based on how I've seen guys rate girls on this forum. Notice I didn't say, "I think she's a '7'". I said, "you'd likely fix her at a '7'".

 

[5string]

Ehh...I thought there might be a "Cluster B" element to this. But it's much more subtle than that. People on this forum like to throw around Cluster B terms whenever they run into a woman who has a flair for the dramatic...which is probably 95% of women out there, in one way or another.

There's a definite "daddy-issue" here, though. Her father was out of her life early.

Either way...this discussion, especially jonwon's comments, has led away from just this one girl...it's got me re-examining my core beliefs about the male-female dynamic. Not trying to nerd out, but it may merit another, more general thread.



"7" is a relative number, based on how I've seen guys rate girls on this forum. Notice I didn't say, "I think she's a '7'". I said, "you'd likely fix her at a '7'".

squirrels....Cluster B is thrown around quite a bit. I have experienced it first hand, so I suppose I am always looking for the red flags of the Cluster B's. Personally, I think personality disorders are much, much more common than we think. That is how I found this site....researching BPD. All of the guys on here who are dating or in relationships should be aware of PD's. There are many stories on here about more than one guy who has had his soul ripped out by a Cluster B. Sounds like you know what to look for out there so I'll spare you the chatter. Always enjoy your posts. Good luck.

 

[jophil28]

Squirrels, what do you really stand to gain by seeing this woman ?

It is Guaranteed that she is the same GoldMedal Attention Wh0re that she was 5 years ago- in fact she is now more skilled in the art after 5 more years of playing her mindfvcks with numerous wide-eyed chumps.

She contacted you for the sport value that you represent to her.

Are you sure that you want to offer yourself as a participant in a game which she initiated for her own benefits?

The danger here is NOT so much her AW behavior or her industrial stength flirting (which you now recognize)- the danger is the possibility that any or some your residual oneitis "feelings" may be reactivated and you and she replay the same old movie with the same ending.

My 2 cents.

 

[Jitterbug]

Didn't read other posts, just the OP.

That's the description of a high end escort.

 

[squirrels]

Jophil, you make a good point.

It's easy to get into that mindset that, "Hey, I'm more Don Juan now than I've ever been! I can beat this game now!"

Then it's like Charlie Brown trying to kick the football.

Especially now...being at a low point in my "game", I'm hardly in a position to beat this girl at her own game. I'm drawn to the challenge, and under other circumstances, maybe I WOULD take a swing. But as you said, is the juice even worth the squeeze at this point?

Let's play this a different way. SHE contacted ME. Let's flip the script...I'll let HER chase for a while. Worst that can happen is that she doesn't pursue and disappears back into the shadows. We'll see if I can draw her out onto even ground.

JB...High-end escort, indeed! LOL...she probably could be, if she was so inclined. I can totally see her in that role.

But in this case, she's one of those girls who lives that lifestyle without having to give anything herself, because there's an endless stream of chumps willing to fall under her spell. Dealt with them before...controlling the frame is absolutely essential.

 

[jophil28]

Especially now...being at a low point in my "game", I'm hardly in a position to beat this girl at her own game. I'm drawn to the challenge, and under other circumstances, maybe I WOULD take a swing. But as you said, is the juice even worth the squeeze at this point?
.

Squirrels, a "challenge" is often times a beartrap in disguise. You just can't see the hardware under all those leaves twigs and branches.

You probably cannot beat this girl at her own game because she is a skilled practitioner of her art - she has been this way her whole life.
Compare that background with your own DJ progress.

Who gets the kill here ?

 

[Julius_Seizeher]

This girl is retarding your progress.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

What can you really get out of someone who isn't going to enhance your life or add to it's happiness anyways? If it's a game, treat it as such. You know this woman isn't going to bring the best out of you so don't pretend she's even worth that thought. You've seen this a million times but somehow she's different and she piqued your curiosity...wut?

If you want to make sure you're still able to talk to girls without hiding then by all means go for it. Seems like a waste of time to me. *shrugs*

 

[Scaramouche]

Dear Squirrels,
What are you doing?this Woman has an enormous inferiority complex....drop her like a ton of bricks.

 

[jonwon]

I beg to differ, sure this woman has issues.

Squirrals your zen aware of them now, your not going in blind, if anything your going in fully armed.

I say have some fun, just dont get too invested.

People here assume it's about a relationship.

To me it's rather simple
A girl you find attractive calls you up out of the blue.

The rest is nothing but what your mind is doing, i.e your rejecting the interaction before you even get anything out of it.

Maybe i'm judging this by my methods, i.e I'd have no problems hitting it and having some fun, I know I wouldn't get emtionally invested because simply, I can read the chick like a book - I.e you can have some fun with her, but your knowledge prevents you from going too far.

Part of the reason to have a FB is because the girl doesn't get past the FB stage, she could be a great FB, a back up toy.

I say have some fun - Now people can state she is BP, or have other personallity disorders, to me she sounds like an average female.

She is nothing but a mainstream celebrity, trash magazine typical female - Yes not marriage material, but dam you can at least have some fun - If you reject this girl because of the way she is, you'll have to reject about 40% of the female population.

We dont have to marry or commit to every chick, and I know for definate women can be a lot of fun to be around, and that is what you need. A little female company, just some fun.

Tell her from the start you dont want anything serious. Chicks are ok with this -

I really dont get you at all, but then again I do like seeing women and having fun with them, sex is enjoyable - Yes some men cant help getting involved, but I dont think your one of them at all.

Also before we start pointing out this girls faults, by admission in one of your other threads:

You dont go out much, all your friends are gamers or in relationships.

Your going through a dry spell of a good few years.

I suspect your bored, probably hovering over depression.

You have been convicted for drink driving.

You cant go out on drink.

You make excuses for not seeing girls (dirty flat is a poor excuse and you know it).

I think your dry spell is because you take this Sosauve mentality of filtering out women a little too far. Dam have some fun once in a while.

I suspect the reason you will get invested, is not because of her, it's because of your current Life-style.

She sounds like she is active, a busy social life, on the other hand I suspect your stuck in a rut. The one with the most issues, from where I am sitting is you, sorry dude. But this chick isn't the problem at all, just like a good % of chicks aren't either, the problem is I believe you feel your going to attach yourself to the wrong women because your life is hum-drum.

We'll part of ingesting a spark into it, is having fun with women even the wrong ones now and again.

I used to do nothing but go out with the wrong women and they where alot of fun - 2-3 x per week - my situation was very much like yours, my social life was women, they are fun - enjoy it. Get out, go for drinks, get some mojo back and get another plate into the mix.

 

[squirrels]

I suspect the reason you will get invested, is not because of her, it's because of your current Life-style.

She sounds like she is active, a busy social life, on the other hand I suspect your stuck in a rut. The one with the most issues, from where I am sitting is you, sorry dude. But this chick isn't the problem at all, just like a good % of chicks aren't either, the problem is I believe you feel your going to attach yourself to the wrong women because your life is hum-drum.

I'm not one to spurn "having fun with the wrong girl(s)". But you're right...I'm bored much more often than I'd like to be. Her life is interesting because she has an endless stream of chumps to entertain her...I don't have the same luxury.

A lot of the things I really love doing have been cut short due to circumstance. My broken leg stopped me from riding, I sprained my fingers rock-climbing, I can't go out drinking for legal reasons, all of my buds who I used to go play ultimate frisbee and go whitewater rafting with...they're all settled down and boring now. I can't even find a good video game to play.

You know more than anything I'd love to take on the challenge of seducing high-value targets, but you're right...my OWN life is what's not in order right now.

This encounter is just serving to highlight how "broken" I am. I remember when this girl and I first met, it was like something out of a jeans commercial. Now everything is awkward and clumsy.

I honestly don't even feel DRIVEN to make an attempt at seducing her or any other woman. Like I said, I get numbers now, I delete them the next morning. Everything I do with women seems like "going through the motions", and that's not gonna be enough to seduce a girl like this. That's no "rock" as you say.

The only reason I ever even TALK to women any more is because I'm angry at myself for NOT wanting to. I'm emotionally and sexually dead right now.

 

[jonwon]

I'm not one to spurn "having fun with the wrong girl(s)". But you're right...I'm bored much more often than I'd like to be. Her life is interesting because she has an endless stream of chumps to entertain her...I don't have the same luxury.

A lot of the things I really love doing have been cut short due to circumstance. My broken leg stopped me from riding, I sprained my fingers rock-climbing, I can't go out drinking for legal reasons, all of my buds who I used to go play ultimate frisbee and go whitewater rafting with...they're all settled down and boring now. I can't even find a good video game to play.

You know more than anything I'd love to take on the challenge of seducing high-value targets, but you're right...my OWN life is what's not in order right now.

This encounter is just serving to highlight how "broken" I am. I remember when this girl and I first met, it was like something out of a jeans commercial. Now everything is awkward and clumsy.

I honestly don't even feel DRIVEN to make an attempt at seducing her or any other woman. Like I said, I get numbers now, I delete them the next morning. Everything I do with women seems like "going through the motions", and that's not gonna be enough to seduce a girl like this. That's no "rock" as you say.

The only reason I ever even TALK to women any more is because I'm angry at myself for NOT wanting to. I'm emotionally and sexually dead right now.

Sounds like your down in the dumps.

Don't know what to suggest, when one gets this way, only he can pull himself out.

Not sure about the 'going through the motions' bit, it seems any motions other than the hum-drum would be seen as a welcome change.

If you where a guy living it up on a greek island, sunning yourself, surrounded by mates having the time of your life, I could understand the going through the motions bit - But a guy looking for the next good game to play on, I would have thought an opportunity would be seized.

Maybe that's your problem, your not taking the opportunities that are presented to you, instead your finding an out or an excuse to keep on this path of self pity.

Opportunities appear, they come far and few between sometimes but they still come about, it seems when they appear for you, you reject them and rationalize that choice by finding fault.

I could state it will get better when you can drink, but again it's simply another excuse - one doesn't have to drink booze to be on a night out, not at all - you can sip coke in a half pint glass and pretend it's a rum and coke or some shi*, if your that concerned.

The fingers in an accident, what is this stopping you from doing? Climbing, still many other things to do -

Broken legs heal.

Friends who dont do water rafting, so what big deal - just means you have to find other avenues to explore.

All I see is an excuse to not get out of your rut, that is all it is. Most others would tell you the same thing, but probably dont want to step over the line, but in all honesty, life isn't a peach for everyone - but still people make the best of it, your not even giving life a chance at all.

It's clear your old life is gone, time to at least take opportunities for a new one, instead of making excuse after excuse after excuse - Carry on like that, you may as well buy a shack in the middle of no-where and take up fishing.

Edit - as for a game, Batman was a good game - Arkham. But it wont replace life, maybe world of warcraft?

I enjoy gaming too, dont get me wrong, but I also enjoy exploring other parts of life - opportunities come, you just have to sieze them. No one is going to force you.

Why not go out alone, for the shear shi* of it one night. The way I see your going to be home anyway, why not spend it out in a local favourite bar, instead of sitting infront of the box with a new game?!

 

[Mr.Positive]

Squirrels, sounds like you need a vacation. If I were you, I'd go someplace exotic, international. Go travelling. Meet women who don't speak english.

It's amazing how travel reboots the spirit, and energizes life back on track.