Help me out sosuave, Rate my appearance

[Grit-Persist]

@devilkingx2 IMO a lot of these posts are just b*tchy BS from people who are trying to knock you down to boost their ego, I'd ignore the most negative posts. The 1-10 scale is largely b*llocks anyway, attraction is subjective.

HOWEVER there is always room for improvement. Here are my most honest pointers, without being an a**hole trying to knock you down:

1. As I said in my first post, the expression in that smile pic is tryhard. It actually damages your attractiveness. I'd say in that pic (not in general, just in that pic) your attraction level would be 6/10 - this is because it's not a great angle anyway, and it's a selfie.

Then you do that fake cheesy smile and it drops to 3/10 because it's silly. Just smile normally and don't put it on, get a shot from further back taken by someone else.

Also I don't know if it's the angle but your cheeks look a little chubby in the first pic. They don't in the shots of you which are further back - so I think it must just be bad angle. In any case, if that is actually "a thing", some cycling or running will slim your face and make it look more masculine. But as I said, probably a bad angle photo.

2. That pic with you and the girl is a good one. I couldn't find it again to quote it here. The hair looks good, the clothes are sharp and I like 'em. You look like you have quite broad shoulders. Focus on these positive attributes and improve them further - broaden your frame further with weights and exercise and you will accentuate your looks.

3. The formal dress looks the best. Unless you're going somewhere really informal I'd stick to good looking waistcoats and polo shirts. Takes some confidence to pull off the waistcoat look but it can be a really nice style. Once you've got gym muscles, you can start looking very good in T-shirts.

My two cents anyway, take it or leave it.

He needs to do the damn PHOTO FEELER. He will get honest feedback from women with at least 50 to 100 votes within a day or so. Then post those results. Fvck the concept of "trying to knock someone down", if those 50 to 100 women say the EXACT same thing I told him......then he has to do the fvcking work.

It's a life lesson. He's 20. I WISH I had someone to tell me the blunt, honest, truth at 20. By the time he gets to 24 or 25...he will be kicking serious a.ss in life if he makes the improvements.

 

[devilkingx2]

@Grit-Persist
@guru1000
So i paid money for this photofeeler thing and used my best pic:
https://imgur.com/a/NM7eY

Apparently it's percentiles (according to their FAQ, percentiles =/= 1-10 scale), so 40% isn't 4/10, it's more attractive than 40% of photos, less than 60%, broken down by me getting so many somewhat attractives and an equal amount of yes and no would suggest that the consensus of 5-7 is about right.

For those wondering what kind of notes i got:
https://imgur.com/a/xZPxa

pretty Much the same as a lot of the stuff here.

 

[sosousage]

@Grit-Persist
@guru1000
So i paid money for this photofeeler thing and used my best pic:
https://imgur.com/a/NM7eY

Apparently it's percentiles (according to their FAQ, percentiles =/= 1-10 scale), so 40% isn't 4/10, it's more attractive than 40% of photos, less than 60%, broken down by me getting so many somewhat attractives and an equal amount of yes and no would suggest that the consensus of 5-7 is about right.

For those wondering what kind of notes i got:
https://imgur.com/a/xZPxa

pretty Much the same as a lot of the stuff here.

sry but you dont look good

photofeeler is joke. women there dont rate objectively. women dont even know what they are subconsciously attracted to.

go gym, get bulked, get ripped, it will AFFECT your face. right now you look like nice guy with a belly

you are young so your face will only look better from now on if you get muscles and then low BF

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

On photofeeler you can get free ratings by just voting on some other people's photos. Business photos are quick and easy to vote on.

At the same time, I doubt their feedback because a lot of people are just voting quickly to get votes on their own pics. Which means they just click without much thought or care.

He needs to do the damn PHOTO FEELER. He will get honest feedback from women with at least 50 to 100 votes within a day or so. Then post those results. Fvck the concept of "trying to knock someone down", if those 50 to 100 women say the EXACT same thing I told him......then he has to do the fvcking work.

It's a life lesson. He's 20. I WISH I had someone to tell me the blunt, honest, truth at 20. By the time he gets to 24 or 25...he will be kicking serious a.ss in life if he makes the improvements.

It wasn't your posts I was referring to Grit.

I don't debate that honest advice is better than smoke-blowing BS, but IMO there are ways of being honest with someone without saying "you look s*** LOL scrub REKT".

Some of the responses were crossing that line of being helpful into macho alpha power play territory that isn't useful when you're supposed to be giving a young lad friendly advice. Telling someone they look "ugly" just because they posted a s*** photo of themselves is not helpful, it's unpleasant behaviour.

If someone of good or average intelligence just started studying something you don't say "You're dumb, I asked my friends and they said you're dumb too. LOL." You say "Yeah, you have the smarts for this but you need to work on X, Y, Z."

 

[Grit-Persist]

I don't debate that honest advice is better than smoke-blowing BS, but IMO there are ways of being honest with someone without saying "you look s*** LOL scrub REKT".

A soon to be grown man (like the OP) will benefit far greater from raw, honest, TRUTH....than the emotional "feel goodery" LIES that some of these guys are telling him.

Apparently it's percentiles (according to their FAQ, percentiles =/= 1-10 scale), so 40% isn't 4/10, it's more attractive than 40% of photos, less than 60%, broken down by me getting so many somewhat attractives and an equal amount of yes and no would suggest that the consensus of 5-7 is about right.

No, you are a 3 or 4 right now, not a 5 to 7 AT ALL. Do the steps I listed to improve.

Most people who rail on you about being ugly are most likely average/mediocre in looks themselves and are just saying these things to feel better about it when they see someone who "ranks" lower then them in that department.

Here's my Photo Feeler:

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/Tenacity99/slideshow/Tenacity Photo Feeler

 

[sosousage]

A soon to be grown man (like the OP) will benefit far greater from raw, honest, TRUTH....than the emotional "feel goodery" LIES that some of these guys are telling him.



No, you are a 3 or 4 right now, not a 5 to 7 AT ALL. Do the steps I listed to improve.



Here's my Photo Feeler:

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/Tenacity99/slideshow/Tenacity Photo Feeler

lmao tenacity, I actually thought you are a thug judging by your posts, what an surprising picture

 

[Grit-Persist]

lmao tenacity, I actually thought you are a thug judging by your posts, what an surprising picture

Lol not sure why you would think that Sir .........just cause I like fvcking Tyquesha and Lakeisha doesn't mean I represent their lifestyle!

 

[devilkingx2]

Here's my Photo Feeler:

http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/Tenacity99/slideshow/Tenacity Photo Feeler

Holy crap it's cottonmouth

 

[Grit-Persist]

My comment wasn't aimed at you, so not sure why you're throwing your stats at me. Speaking of which, I'd be interested in seeing what age bracket setting you used on the women scoring you to get those test results.

Women age 25 to 44, which is the dating range of women I entertain. I don't date women younger than 25.

 

[sosousage]

I always get 20% on photofeeler for mirror shirtless selfie

 

[guru1000]

@Grit-Persist
@guru1000
So i paid money for this photofeeler thing and used my best pic:
https://imgur.com/a/NM7eY

Apparently it's percentiles (according to their FAQ, percentiles =/= 1-10 scale), so 40% isn't 4/10, it's more attractive than 40% of photos, less than 60%, broken down by me getting so many somewhat attractives and an equal amount of yes and no would suggest that the consensus of 5-7 is about right.

For those wondering what kind of notes i got:
https://imgur.com/a/xZPxa

pretty Much the same as a lot of the stuff here.

That is correct. Your attractiveness in Photofeeler gauges your stats against others to render a percentage. Photofeeler does not gauge your true attractiveness but rather the attractiveness of your pics. Hence, why I could range from 40-99%. Though, attractive people will have more pics rated with higher percentiles on the average.

As to your attractiveness, renowned plastic surgeon Francis R Palmer out of Beverly Hills says the following universal stats relate to one's attractiveness (Google Palmer Code):

Cheeks: 75%
Eyes/Eyebrows: 10%
Lips: 7%

That's 92% of your attractiveness spread among three features. Hence, what truly distinguishes attractive from non-attractive is one's cheek structure. For men, the ideal cheek structure is high, narrow, and angular like so:

https://www.google.com/search?q=goo...QsAQIKQ&biw=1771&bih=796#imgrc=lUtzzzfRSeaZsM:

You are not ugly, as ugly would mean you have absolutely no or little structure (fat or bone) or angularity to your face. You are average-looking, but not conventionally a model because your cheeks are not high, not narrow, and angular at the mid-nose region instead of right underneath your eyes. This is because you are carrying a high body fat percentage with fat pads in the mid-cheek region. By committing to an extensive exercise, diet, and cardio regime, you will build the facial muscle at the upper cheek region and diminish the buccal fat pads in the mid-face region, carving your facial structure with cheeks that are high, narrow, and angular in the right place (in addition to building a great physique). This should be your focus.

 

[sosousage]

That is correct. Your attractiveness in Photofeeler gauges your stats against others to render a percentage. Photofeeler does not gauge your true attractiveness but rather the attractiveness of your pics. Hence, why I could range from 40-99%. Though, attractive people will have more pics rated with higher percentiles on the average.

As to your attractiveness, renowned plastic surgeon Francis R Palmer out of Beverly Hills says the following universal stats relate to one's attractiveness (Google Palmer Code):

Cheeks: 75%
Eyes/Eyebrows: 10%
Lips: 7%

That's 92% of your attractiveness spread among three features. Hence, what truly distinguishes attractive from non-attractive is one's cheek structure. For men, the ideal cheek structure is high, narrow, and angular like so:

https://www.google.com/search?q=goo...QsAQIKQ&biw=1771&bih=796#imgrc=lUtzzzfRSeaZsM:

You are not ugly, as ugly would mean you have absolutely no or little structure (fat or bone) or angularity to your face. You are average-looking, but not conventionally a model because your cheeks are not high, not narrow, and angular at the mid-nose region instead of right underneath your eyes. This is because you are carrying a high body fat percentage with fat pads in the mid-cheek region. By committing to an extensive exercise, diet, and cardio regime, you will build the facial muscle at the upper cheek region and diminish the buccal fat pads in the mid-face region, carving your facial structure with cheeks that are high, narrow, and angular in the right place (in addition to building a great physique). This should be your focus.

Hey guru do you train head/face muscles

 

[guru1000]

Hey guru do you train head/face muscles

Absolutely. When you train heavy with squats, dead lifts, and bench press, you will naturally train your facial muscles through the effort.

But I also use Jawzrsizer. Using your fingers while biting down on this instrument, apply pressure downward against your upper cheek area (which is pushing up) and do 10 sets/50 reps each per day. In 90 days, you will see a marked improvement in facial aesthetics.

How else do you think a guy in his 40s can remain competitive in the hot female 20s market?

 

[sosousage]

Absolutely. When you train heavy with squats, dead lifts, and bench press, you will naturally train your facial muscles through the effort.

But I also use Jawzrsizer. Using your fingers while biting down on this instrument, apply pressure downward against your upper cheek area (which is pushing up) and do 10 sets/50 reps each per day. In 90 days, you will see a marked improvement in facial aesthetics.

How else do you think a guy in his 40s can remain competitive in the hot female 20s market?

Good. Thank u. Will look.

I have beard to have less beta jawline

 

[Roober]

That is correct. Your attractiveness in Photofeeler gauges your stats against others to render a percentage. Photofeeler does not gauge your true attractiveness but rather the attractiveness of your pics. Hence, why I could range from 40-99%. Though, attractive people will have more pics rated with higher percentiles on the average.

As to your attractiveness, renowned plastic surgeon Francis R Palmer out of Beverly Hills says the following universal stats relate to one's attractiveness (Google Palmer Code):

Cheeks: 75%
Eyes/Eyebrows: 10%
Lips: 7%

That's 92% of your attractiveness spread among three features. Hence, what truly distinguishes attractive from non-attractive is one's cheek structure. For men, the ideal cheek structure is high, narrow, and angular like so:

https://www.google.com/search?q=goo...QsAQIKQ&biw=1771&bih=796#imgrc=lUtzzzfRSeaZsM:

You are not ugly, as ugly would mean you have absolutely no or little structure (fat or bone) or angularity to your face. You are average-looking, but not conventionally a model because your cheeks are not high, not narrow, and angular at the mid-nose region instead of right underneath your eyes. This is because you are carrying a high body fat percentage with fat pads in the mid-cheek region. By committing to an extensive exercise, diet, and cardio regime, you will build the facial muscle at the upper cheek region and diminish the buccal fat pads in the mid-face region, carving your facial structure with cheeks that are high, narrow, and angular in the right place (in addition to building a great physique). This should be your focus.

Have you read the studies about how "chubby cheeks" are essentially derived from the way we chew. Those people who do not chew properly, pushing the tongue against the top of the mouth, will have chubbier cheeks and a rounder face compared to someone at the same fitness level. And there is exercises you can do to actually change your facial structure?

Dr Mike Mew studies of Orthotropics and jawline/face exercises

Ii've watched most of these, some just have interesting titles so I added them in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26KBKhaieSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltLaXuyvoJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TiR2bpiZQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_7MQWzjAL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqUm7EaD1zo

 

[Grit-Persist]

I go 25+ myself. Ranking at 83% right now after 150 votes. Wondering if a suit would make a difference.

@BeExcellent
@AJ84
@sazc

Ladies... Any opinions?

I didn't know AJ was a chick

 

[MoreThanSmooth]

Amante you remind me a little of Robert De Niro for some reason, hope you're not pulling high octane bank heists in your free time

My photofeeler experience has been rather...erratic. The same photo with the basic rules (not a selfie, not posing etc.) can vary for me between 40% and 80-90%, though since I've been doing it on "Karma" voting I normally get like 20 votes only. Guess I may as well shell out and get a proper 50-100 views...

 

[guru1000]

Have you read the studies about how "chubby cheeks" are essentially derived from the way we chew. Those people who do not chew properly, pushing the tongue against the top of the mouth, will have chubbier cheeks and a rounder face compared to someone at the same fitness level. And there is exercises you can do to actually change your facial structure?

Dr Mike Mew studies of Orthotropics and jawline/face exercises

Ii've watched most of these, some just have interesting titles so I added them in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26KBKhaieSE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltLaXuyvoJc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TiR2bpiZQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_7MQWzjAL0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqUm7EaD1zo

Like the links. Informative. You can't spot reduce fat, but you can lower your bf levels to reduce chubby cheeks. Though, by exercising your facial muscles you can firm the underlying structure and move the tissues higher, as well as enhance your jawline significantly.

Just as the body can become flabby if you once exercised and then stopped (See Schwarzenegger here), so can the face. Hence, facial exercising is for life.

 

[Epicurus]

Every single person here has given you a mans personal opinion. I gave you zero opinion just had some of my girl acquaintances(who are 7+ on the looks scale ) rate you. You saw the results. Take that as you will.

You seem like a great guy, and I love to see a fellow brother succeed. Work needs to be done

 

[RichardTheFrog]

If you had a lot of money, it would make you 1000x more attractive to females. You could date the 10/10's.

But that's easier said than done