Help me bag this 10!!

[Broham]

Hey fellas,

As an infrequent poster, but frequent guest, I just want to say thanks first to everyone on this site for their valuable input. My game wouldn't be anywhere near it is today without you. I don't like asking for advice for most of the time the info is here or I figure out the problem myself. However, with this situation needs the assistance of veteran DJs!!


I was at a club in Boston last Friday working my game with this one decent chick (about a 7) most of the night. She was all over me....we would make out and grope when we weren't dancing, so she wasn't much of a challenge. I needed a break so went downstairs and saw this bartender that I actually talked to last time I was there. She is at least a 9.5, near-perfect body/complextion, but a very down to earth girl with no ***** shield. I tried to give her a few reminders of who I was, since it was over a month ago when I talked to her. Unfortunately she didn't remember....so I started a convo anyway. It went decently despite the fact that ppl kept buying drinks and interrupting (damn them!!) Obviously I couldn't do the kino thing with the bar in the way. We talked a little about cars, I guessed her car and told her I wanted a ride in it. She told me she was mostly German, and brought up how they make the best cars, and had her guess my car. She couldn't so I told her it'd be surprise when I let her ride in it. (its a bmw 325) To cut to the chase, she gave me her number but said she's going to vegas this wkend. To make it easy on you guys, which option should I pick?
A. Call her today just to show interest, don't try to set up date
B. Call her today to set up a fun, action date after she comes back
C. Call her today to set up quick coffee date before she goes away Friday
D. Don't call her until she gets back next week
E. Other???


btw, She's 28, and I'm 23, but she doesn't know how old I am

Thanks!!

 

[Lost In Translation]

Obviously I couldn't do the kino thing with the bar in the way.

haha now that was funny !

i like option D.

because you will look like a busy man with other things to do

it would aslo look like you got nothing better to do than sit around and plan a date for a week ahead ( looks desperate AFC ) if you call her straight away with plans for you both.


i am not a veteran DJ but you can have my 2 cents for free



Lost In Translation

 

[NewMan]

Option E.

Don't call her.

Wait until she get's back and hit the club up again. Approach - ask her how her trip went etc. - you know Vegas talk. If you've been there before all the better - if you haven't read up on it a little so you can talk intelligently.

Take it from there.

"Oh yeah - I think I still have your number somewhere - I should dig it out this week"

etc.

 

[Lost In Translation]

ok now i am hoping to learn what to do from the veteran DJ's as well

she gave you the number

she would be expecting a call eventually

if she is interested, which she seems to be

not calling her at all seems a bit flakey

and it looks like you haven't got the ball$ to be a man and handle the phone call

waiting till you see her at work, while she is busy, it is noisy, you keep getting interrupted, which breaks your focus and hers.

why not ring her up next week some time and arrange a date to meet her somewhere you won't be interrupted and can kino ?

and remember

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" Obviously I couldn't do the kino thing with the bar in the way. "



Lost In Translation

 

[Broham]

Good stuff so far guys.

The major issue here seems to balancing my schedule with hers while keeping her interest high the whole time. I really think my timing here is key or she's going to forget about me or just not care anymore. I'm sure she's got myraid guys waiting in line for her so I'm not her #1 priority.

I think I'm going to wait til after she gets back to call. I'm assuming she'll have alot to talk about so the convo will run smoothly.


Yeah Lost, that bar took away 30% of my game man. I worked with what i had though. She had a necklace that looked like rock candy so I pointed that out and said I wanted to eat it off her neck. lol

 

[damnbugs]

I like NewMan's aproach- wait till she is back from her trip, women love to talk about themselves. Just show up at the bar and act like you are surprised to see her back. Spend some time talking to her but not a lot- you already have the #. Then in a couple of days give her a call to go for coffee and find out all about her and her trip then.

 

[xblitz44x]

Let me ask you this. Reverse the roles. She got YOUR number while you were at work. You think she likes you, you enjoyed talking to her, and you expect that she'll call since she DID get the number afterall. Which would YOU appreciate most? If she calls you the next day or so are you going to feel any LESS inclined to sleep with her? I don't think so. However, if she waited until you got back from the trip, then just SHOWED up again, you'd wonder what the hell is going on and why she would just 'not call' after she said she would. Then, most likely, *you* would start playing games because you see or suspect that she is, and the next thing you know ALL communication has gone to shyt.

That's what's going to happen if you wait.

Trust me, keep it simple. Calling her and asking her out is the entire POINT of getting her number. Anything less would be over-complicating shyt out of insecurity that she couldn't POSSIBLY want you without you playing some kind of waiting game.

I would call her today or tomorrow and just talk with her. No expectations, no planning a date, just talk. Get to know her a little bit. Wish fun for her trip and tell her that you'll talk when she gets back. When she gets back, talk and set something up.

-Blitz

 

[Diggs]

Personally I think a phone call to say have a good time in Vegas and You will give her a call next week sometime. Shows interest, and courtiousness. If she is down to earth she will appreciate it.

 

[Broham]

Blitz, you made me realize that I am overcomplicating things. Thank you. I'm definitely gonna call her tonight to shoot the sh*t a little. I think alot of ppl on this site take the "being a challenge" mantra a little too far. I know if a girl waited to call me a week, I'd lose interest fast and play games in retaliation. Thanks again for making me aware of the not-so-obvious.

 

[NewMan]

Big mistake.

Because if she had gotten my number I would fvck her that night. Would she fvck you?

Don't get into the role reversal mose here - thats the kind of advice her girlfriend would give him - and as we all know here women know sh#t about getting other women.


The bottom line here is the following:

1) He's been unable to establish any real repor with this chick. He's talked to her but been unable to kino her. He really doesn't even know if it's her real phone number or just a fake # she gives out to guys who asj for it at the bar.

2) AFC's will call her within a day or so.

3) She's going on vacation. She's probably really excited - getting nails done - shopping etc. etc. etc. You think she's going to spend time on the phone with some Jona (no offence) who got her number in a bar? nope. She's not going to give a crap at this point.

4) Don't be a pvssy and wish her a good trip. Fvck dude - that "Desperate", "I'm a yes man" sh#t there. Your supposed to have other options remember?


Your best bet by far is to just play is cool.

Don't call the chick. Let her go have fun.

When she comes back hit her up at the bar.

Ask her about her trip. She'll have plenty of sh#t to talk about - and probably be impressed that you remembered and give enough of a sh#t to ask her about it.

She'll be talking about herself as well.

Just have some background info on Vegas at hand so you can talk with some knoweldge about it.

 

[NewMan]

The problem is, this guy is going to be counting down the days until she get's back.....

Go find other chicks and stop worrying about this one.

 

[xblitz44x]

"Don't get into the role reversal mose here - thats the kind of advice her girlfriend would give him - and as we all know here women know sh#t about getting other women."

Ok well her girlfriend didn't give him that advice. I did. And I *do* have experience and 'know shyt' about getting other women.

Explain to me how YOU would feel in that case? Where a girl seems interested, gives you her number, you talk, she says she'll call you then next day and she doesn't. Then you wind up just seeing her out somewhere. It happens all the time on this board and is the reason for 75% of the "she's flaked what do I do?" threads. It's rude, it sends mixed messages, and it does NOTHING for "interest level". If you don't agree with that, then again, think about it. If she DID call you back like she said she would, are you going to be any LESS inclined to want to have sex with her? Of course not.

"1) He's been unable to establish any real repor with this chick. He's talked to her but been unable to kino her. He really doesn't even know if it's her real phone number or just a fake # she gives out to guys who asj for it at the bar."

Again, turn the tables.

Plus, if he *didn't* establish much rapport with her, that's even MORE of a reason to call her sooner rather than later. By the time she gets on a vacation, and gets back, she's going to write him off as being rude, or not interested, if she remembers him at all.

"2) AFC's will call her within a day or so."

Agreed. But where you are tripping up is your assuming that calling within a day or so MAKES him "AFC". A truely comfortable, confident man doesn't let rules dictate when he can or can't call a girl. He does what he wants because he feels like it. If you're handing over your control to a bunch of rules created by self-proclaimed "internet players" makes you no better than an AFC.

"4) Don't be a pvssy and wish her a good trip. Fvck dude - that "Desperate", "I'm a yes man" sh#t there. Your supposed to have other options remember?"

Relax. There is no battle going on. You have power struggle issues. You're not giving anything away by wishing her a good trip. Or don't if you don't want to. It's not going to hurt you though. Jesus. That's the problem with this board is everybody is so uptight and systematic. It makes him a pusssy just because he tells her to have a good trip? Haha.

-Blitz

 

[Unforsaken]

Tough choices. I think ether won will work, depends on how you do it.

You can easily call the next week and say "Hey, remember me, like you can forget. Last week you couldn't stop hitting on me at the bar." She will remember who you are. If she ask why haven't you called?.."I have been busy of late. I also remember you told me you were going on vacation. So I assumed you would be busy".

on the other hand.

call soon. Have a small talk. In which you tell her how she should watch out at los vegas. She might wake up one day and be married to a stranger and tell her whatever happen there stays there, etc...Just make her laugh. Then tell her to have a good time and to call you whenever she come back (give her your #).

 

[AMF]

Originally posted by AMF
If you've paid attention to the recent posts of xblitz, you'll realise he been trying to spread this message for months now. De-emphasise and undermine the importance of "DJ" rules and tricks, to be replaced by self-acceptance.


If someone does not accept you, then why would you wish to have them anyway?

Listen to the man.

 

[Broham]

Two conflicting theories, but I went with blitz on this one. I left her a VM last night. Hopefully she calls back. If not, not a huge deal. I have like 4 or 5 ladies lined up, not as hot as this one, but probably better personalities. Her loss if she doesn't call back. I know if I was going to Vegas this weekend a random girl wouldn't be a top priority. I'm not selling myself short here, just putting myself in her shoes.

 

[damnbugs]

...hes at the 30...now the 20...he slipped the tackle...hes at the 10 and in the clear...he just crossed the 5...NNNOOOO...he dropped the ball!...

Let us know how this pans out. I think you should have waited- so I am curious to see if it works out?

 

[Broham]

Part of me thinks I should of waited also. However, I do agree that she might think I blew her off or she might just forget about me completely (if she has a really, really good time).

 

[HuuBinh]

Broham,

here's my opinion.

although she gave u her #, she doesn't really anticipate your call. You'll most likely get her voice mail, or she'll flake if you ask her out on a date. After vegas, she'll probably forget all about you.

part of the reason was , and i am sure you can agree with me that at the club, you didn't make any significant impact on her attraction level toward you, holding other factors equal ie. looks. for that reason, you are still just another guy.

if you came down to the bar with the hb7 that was all over you and used her as an anchor, maybe this bartender will see something different in you.

 

[xblitz44x]

You did good. Don't question your decision. You made it now stand by it. If she doesn't respond to your VM now, she wouldn't have responded to it when she got back either. The length of time isn't going to dictate her feelings for you.

 

[NewMan]

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You did good. Don't question your decision. You made it now stand by it. If she doesn't respond to your VM now, she wouldn't have responded to it when she got back either. The length of time isn't going to dictate her feelings for you.
*****

Like I said. He should have waited until she got back - went to the bar and bull sh#tted with her. because he didn't have enough to go on in the first place. You can't expect to hit gold with a preimium chick when you've not done any solid ground work up front.

But it's all upto the individual. Everyone had their own views and he picked whichever one he though best.

But read his post.

****
I have like 4 or 5 ladies lined up, not as hot as this one, but probably better personalities. Her loss if she doesn't call back. I know if I was going to Vegas this weekend a random girl wouldn't be a top priority.
*****

She's the one on top of his mind even though - as he admits - he's some random dude.



****
Explain to me how YOU would feel in that case? Where a girl seems interested, gives you her number, you talk, she says she'll call you then next day and she doesn't
****

I'm a guy not a girl. If hse called me a week later it wouldn't matter to me - I'd still want to fvck her.

*****
Plus, if he *didn't* establish much rapport with her, that's even MORE of a reason to call her sooner rather than later. By the time she gets on a vacation, and gets back, she's going to write him off as being rude, or not interested, if she remembers him at all
*****

She hot and she's a bartender. Guess how often she's guys hit on her? unless this dude is Brad pitt - forget about it.


****
Agreed. But where you are tripping up is your assuming that calling within a day or so MAKES him "AFC". A truely comfortable, confident man doesn't let rules dictate when he can or can't call a girl. He does what he wants because he feels like it. If you're handing over your control to a bunch of rules created by self-proclaimed "internet players" makes you no better than an AFC
****

Agreed. But again this is not your everyday chick. She's a bartender - I'm guessing she get's hit on higher than average. There will be many AFC calling her the next day. He wants to set himself apart.


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Relax. There is no battle going on. You have power struggle issues. You're not giving anything away by wishing her a good trip
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She doesn't know him. He'll be int he nice guy category.




Just my opinion.

Different people will deal with this differently.