Help. How do you get girls attention? What if you're ignored godamn it?

[Notgoodwithgirls]

This here is truth and the story of my life Girls don't pay attention to me. Whenever I am in public and I see women I find attractive they overlook me. I try to make eye contact with them and when they notice me they just look away and walk by. The times i've approached them without knowing them, same ****, they just walked away as I was talking or said no. This is discouraging because I would like to talk to these pretty ladies and have fun with them. Because I am ignored even by the fat ugly girls walking around all high and mighty with their noses in the air and bulbous fat jiggling everywhere, I have come to the point where I consider myself ugly. I don't think I am ugly, but I feel it and I really have no excuse because i've seen lots of worse looking guys with a lot more women. But what does that do for me, that uglier guys can get women? Not a damn thing because I don't have that X-factor. A few times in the past some real cuties liked me but I think it was a fluke and I must be ugly...(did i mention those rare girls turned me down?) otherwise I would not be ignored and turned down when I try.

I have been told on a number of occasions by diff people that I have a bad attitude but i don't think it's the problem because how can strangers know you have a bad attitude if they never given you the chance to talk them in the first place? So see you can't tell me they knew me to make that kind of judgement because wouldn't they have to talk to me first in order to find out ?!? I can't be with somebody if they don't even allow themselves to talk to me and theyre not going to want to do that, know why? Because they looked at me. That's right. I can see it in their eyes they stereotype me out in the first 5 seconds because I don't have hav a posse or wear fancy designer clothing made in some sweat shop in thailand. At my rate I'm well on my way to becoming a 40 year old virgin, it's always on the outside watching others having fun.

One thing I should point out------> I like myself. I wouldn't want to be anyone else, look like anyone else, etc. but i hate my situation with women, that i can't understand them no matter what i try and how hard i try. It's probably hard for you experts to understand but it sucks being over 20 years old and never even having a kiss!!!! Just want to have good times, talk, joke, etc. with girls like everyone else goddamn it. I'd like to know how it is I turn this around, what's the trick and please don't tell me some bull**** like get confidence, like it's something you get from a shelf at the store. I was confident before and tried everything, it doesn't work. I personally know lots of guys who have piss poor confidence and have gotten girls, even hot one's. The C word doesn't matter unless a-s-h follow it.

 

[MisterMcGee]

Firstly, I'd say don't give advice on other threads when you admit you need help in this area.
Secondly, read the DJ bible.
Thirdly, do you know body language is? Learn that.
Fourthly start having a more active lifestyle as it'll naturally make you feel better.
etc
I won't return to this thread cause I've labelled you a troll (due to the other thread), but I hope this bit can be some help to you if you are, in fact, for real.

"I personally know lots of guys who have piss poor confidence and have gotten girls, even hot one's."
YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE THESE GUYS. They are in horrible relationships, most definitely.
Also, I'd rather have great confidence and be happy than to have a "hot girl", any day of the week. These "low confidence guys with hot gfs" are at a tragic loss.

 

[tarotale]

post your foto, lets see how you look like. btw i believe that as long as a man keeps himself clean, work out for muscles, stay fit, and know what NOT to wear (emo or gay style), i think all guys look fine. looks are no problem man. fortunately i am pretty good looking hahaha (at least i think so)

 

[Notgoodwithgirls]

oh i get it so because i may not be so great means i cant have an opinion. you dont have to be an expert to point out some things! whose gonna tell you you're wrong when you've seen it with your own eyes? and yes this thead is very REAL, this is no joke! theer is nothing funy about being over 20 years old and having been denied each time. i do know basic body language and i am active. i ride my bike and do martial arts training but what does that have to do with anything?

i will be back later and will post my photo.

 

[Caveman]

I have come to the point where I consider myself ugly. I don't think I am ugly, but I feel it and I really have no excuse because i've seen lots of worse looking guys with a lot more women. But what does that do for me, that uglier guys can get women? Not a damn thing because I don't have that X-factor.

Say what you want, you are insecure. It doesn't matter how you got to be that way, but at this point you are insecure.

A few times in the past some real cuties liked me but I think it was a fluke and I must be ugly...(did i mention those rare girls turned me down?) otherwise I would not be ignored and turned down when I try.

This proves once again that you are insecure.

I have been told on a number of occasions by diff people that I have a bad attitude but i don't think it's the problem because how can strangers know you have a bad attitude if they never given you the chance to talk them in the first place?

People that haven't talked to you but still claim you have a bad attitude, might be prejudice. They can only be that if you dress or behave a certain way that automaticly puts you in a social group like emos, punks, gays, skinheads or whatever. Its what you yourself mentioned as being stereotyped.
What I think is the case, is that they mean you make a bad first impression. Since I can't observe you it is hard for me to tell you what that is. So next time someone tells you you have a bad attitude, ask them what they mean. Ask this is a genuine, serious tone. Make them believe you reallt want to know.

it's always on the outside watching others having fun.

I used to feel exactly the same. That's when I was seriously depressed and had an insecurity that people could smell from miles away. Then I started working on my selfconfidence - I know, easier said than done, but it is WORK - and even with the setbacks every now and then, I gradually started feeling better and better. At this point, the honest truth is.. I couldnt care less if a girl in the street would talk to me or not. I don't take it personally. She might have a bad day, I might remind her of someone that she doesnt like, or she is too selfobserved to even notice me. Big deal! If she doesn't wanna talk, the next girl will. Mind you, most girls will not just stop to talk to strangers in the street. They are there because they have somewhere to go. They are busy.

One thing I should point out------> I like myself. I wouldn't want to be anyone else, look like anyone else, etc. but i hate my situation with women, that i can't understand them no matter what i try and how hard i try.

I seriously doubt this. You have mentioned at least 3 times that you must be ugly. I'm not saying you are. YOU were saying you are. Or at least you believe you must be. True or not.. you claim you hate the way you are with women, and you won't believe you can be succesfull with them. And this is your selfforfilling prophecy. This is what you need to work on.

You might wanna start by talking to girls you already know. Don't talk to them with the intention of sleeping with them or even kissing them. Just talk small talk. Have no expectations. Do this untill you feel more comfortable talking to them. Untill you believe they like talking to you. Maybe not all girls, but at least some. Only when you are comfortable with this, can you continue doing any DJbible stuff.

Remember, it takes work and dedication to work on your selfesteem. Try to notice all the improvements you make, and feel happy about them. Feel the challenge of working on this problem and don't expect too much too soon. It's babysteps for now. It's the only way.