Help, girl does not like me being aggressive/dominant in bed

SirFratserlot

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First shes the I only put out in serious relationships/marriage type deal, but I still go for it. Weve hooked up a lot and everytime I try to get her to take her shirt off or something, she tells me no and that I should let things like that happen naturally, but shes the one that just so happens to naturally pull my **** out of my pants. Hypocrite. I guess she expects a random gust of wind to blow her shirt off. This has been like the 6th time weve been at it and I finally was allowed to suck on her tits and she only let it happen for a few seconds. She still hasnt taken her bra or her panties off. Idk if she just doesnt like foreplay in general, but this is bullshvt. Wat do?
 

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She seems a bit prude-ish. I'd probably give her an ultimatum. Although if you like her , and she digs you , go out with her and see what happens.Are you in an official ' relationship ' now?
 

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Idk, how do u know if u are? Ive known her for like 1.5 months and weve sedn each other for like once to twice a week. I follow the rules on this site, so I dont engulf her with attention.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
First shes the I only put out in serious relationships/marriage type deal, but I still go for it. Weve hooked up a lot and everytime I try to get her to take her shirt off or something, she tells me no and that I should let things like that happen naturally, but shes the one that just so happens to naturally pull my **** out of my pants. Hypocrite. I guess she expects a random gust of wind to blow her shirt off. This has been like the 6th time weve been at it and I finally was allowed to suck on her tits and she only let it happen for a few seconds. She still hasnt taken her bra or her panties off. Idk if she just doesnt like foreplay in general, but this is bullshvt. Wat do?
What happened after she denies you? You keep hanging out with her? You should have gotten up and left.
 

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Wats the lmr game and we just continue hooking up until one of us gets tired. She usually grabs my **** out and starts jerking it during the first stage
 

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SirFratserlot said:
Wats the lmr game and we just continue hooking up until one of us gets tired. She usually grabs my **** out and starts jerking it during the first stage
Dude, if she's taking it THAT far, surely you can get her to go all the way.


LMR = Last minute resistance....search for it on these forums.
 

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She prizes her ***** like its a piece of google stock. Ive tried but she told me she oy phvcks in serious relationships and that she has to know me well enough. Shes only had sex once too
 

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SirFratserlot said:
She prizes her ***** like its a piece of google stock. Ive tried but she told me she oy phvcks in serious relationships and that she has to know me well enough. Shes only had sex once too
I doubt it. If you aren't banging her someone else is. Who cares what she "told you". Means nothing.
 

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I doubt it. If you aren't banging her someone else is. Who cares what she "told you". Means nothing.
True, but I know her well enough and shvt to wear I disbelieve. Im not trying to sound beta or something but I just know.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
True, but I know her well enough and shvt to wear I disbelieve. Im not trying to sound beta or something but I just know.
You watch her 24 hours or something? How could you know everything she does?
 
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True, but I know her well enough and shvt to wear I disbelieve. Im not trying to sound beta or something but I just know.
You have already deluded yourself into One-itis. Stop.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
First shes the I only put out in serious relationships/marriage type deal, but I still go for it. Weve hooked up a lot and everytime I try to get her to take her shirt off or something, she tells me no and that I should let things like that happen naturally, but shes the one that just so happens to naturally pull my **** out of my pants. Hypocrite. I guess she expects a random gust of wind to blow her shirt off. This has been like the 6th time weve been at it and I finally was allowed to suck on her tits and she only let it happen for a few seconds. She still hasnt taken her bra or her panties off. Idk if she just doesnt like foreplay in general, but this is bullshvt. Wat do?
is there any indications that she find you attractive , I am afraid she only want relationship but cant see you sexy .
not let her make you her public BF only
 

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is there any indications that she find you attractive , I am afraid she only want relationship but cant see you sexy .
not let her make you her public BF only
yeah she finds me attractive, that's how I met her lol.

Here's how I know. I either had or was near her phone the whole weekend and no questionable guy texted her. I'm pretty sure if she was talking to another guy and was concerned, she would have never have given me her phone for 2 hours. My good friend is dating her best friend and he told me this weekend that I should be screwing her some time soon. I'm pretty sure if she was banging another guy he would have told me by now. There's much more, but I don't feel like typing it lol. I know my shvt, and I know there's a possibility that I'm wrong, but I just don't want to put myself in a cynical mood right now. If I'm wrong than so be it and I'll find a new girl. I plan on getting married at some point in my life, so I'm trying to get rid of this cynical mindset that has been bestowed on me by this site. Yes, I'm still aware of the shvt women pull, but at least I know the signs and when to be aware.
 

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SirFratserlot said:
First shes the I only put out in serious relationships/marriage type deal, but I still go for it. Weve hooked up a lot and everytime I try to get her to take her shirt off or something, she tells me no and that I should let things like that happen naturally, but shes the one that just so happens to naturally pull my **** out of my pants. Hypocrite. I guess she expects a random gust of wind to blow her shirt off. This has been like the 6th time weve been at it and I finally was allowed to suck on her tits and she only let it happen for a few seconds. She still hasnt taken her bra or her panties off. Idk if she just doesnt like foreplay in general, but this is bullshvt. Wat do?
How long have you been with her ? Some women don't put out immediately. Have some patience and when things go well you will get a taste of it.
 

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Back to basics...

What does this site teach us? Stop supplicating to women, stop chasing them, stop playing their game --> Instead, turn things around and make them play your game, act like YOU are the PRIZE which THEY are after.

When a woman withdraws attention, you don't chase her, but you give her a taste of her own medicine and withdraw your attention, so she comes looking for it again.

When a woman makes you work for her, you don't do your best to please her. NO!!!!!! You show her that you could care less about her and that you don't need her! YOU set the frame, YOU make her jump through YOUR hoops. YOU don't need HER, but SHE needs YOU!

AFC's supplicate to women, chase after them, jump through their hoops, try to please them, try to win them over. DJ's do the exact opposite of that!





TURN THINGS AROUND. DON'T CHASE HER...MAKE HER CHASE YOU! Next time she tries to pull out your c0ck, you prevent her from doing it. Tell her you're not ready yet, coz you only want to be sexual with girls when in a serious relationship... Or tell her that the two of you shouldn't be doing this, coz you think she is not ready for it yet...
Don't just throw her that line and gauge her reaction, that would be way too obvious. BACK IT UP, show congruent behavior, ACT LIKE YOU MEAN IT. If you throw her that line and then just look at her face for her response, she will see through your "plan". Instead, just say that line and act accordingly, play it through, keep the act up.
For example, if you're sitting on the couch, just take the remote control and start zapping tv channels for something interesting to watch. Show her that you really don't care about the sex stuff, you are now focused on the tv. DO NOT LOOK AT HER FACE IN AN ATTEMPT TO READ HER REACTION TO YOUR BEHAVIOR!!! Just look at the goddamn tv and be focused on that, like she and her bra/panties are not even interesting to you. I guarantee you that SHE will be the one looking at YOU, your face and your behavior, as you are sitting there watching the tv. She will be the one trying to read YOU and see if you're for real, if you really don't want to chase after the sex. She will try to figure YOU out, instead of the other way around.

She will probably test you further when you do that, coz she will suspect that you're just playing an act, like you are trying to get back at her for not ever removing her bra or panties. She'll be like: "Aha, he's just faking..he acts like he doesn't want me, but I know he does. So I'll just play along and he'll give up his act eventually."
So she might agree and just start watching tv with you, letting the sexual vibe disappear. She expects you to give up your act when you see it doesn't work on her, hoping that you will return to chasing sex.
PROVE HER WRONG. Just keep up the act and convince her that you really don't need it. It's just like a staring contest: who's going to give in and break the act first?
If you just keep it up, she will eventually start doubting. "Huh? He really seems to mean it, he really doesn't return to chasing sex with me... He really doesn't need me!"

That's what you're after, making her doubt herself, making her doubt that she is in control. Women always think they are in control, and you have to prove them wrong!! It's all one big game of power and they get off on it... They want to be in control of you, of your attention. They want to make you jump their hoops, they want to toy with you like a cat toys with a mouse. But you have to turn this around!

Once you DISPLAY HIGHER VALUE, she will start freaking out. "Uh oh, he is losing interest in me! RED ALERT RED ALERT, I am not getting his attention anymore, he is getting bored with me, he is not chasing after me anymore. In other words, I am not special anymore!!"


BREAK THAT FVCKING FRAME IN HER MIND!! Show her that she is NOT in control, show her that she can NOT take you and your attention for granted. The moment you do this, you turn things around and make HER work for YOU!

If she plays along and watches tv with you, letting the sexual vibe disappear, show her that it DOES NOT affect you. Just watch tv, do other stuff and eventually go home like you always do. Tell her you had a great evening and leave HAPPILY, just as happy as you would've left if you had fvcked her! Your behavior must convince her that you truly enjoyed the night, even though nothing sexual happened.
It will mess with her mind, she will start doubting that you need her sexually and she won't like that thought... Hence, she will put in effort to get you sexually interested again and try to seduce you. So now, she will give up her bra or panties, hoping that she can win your sexual interest back.

Again, you must stay IN CHARACTER and be congruent, your behavior must be consistent. If you get her to this point, where she starts doubting herself and makes an effort to win your sexual interest back, you cannot jump at the opportunity without restraints! If she gives up her bra/panties and you act incredibly eager and happy about it, like "FINALLY!!", you'll break character and she will know that it was all an act AFTER ALL!! Women don't like that and she will feel like you played her for a fool. She will know that there really was no reason for her to start doubting, that you were just ACTING and therefor she will start feeling more secure than ever before and from now on will make you jump through her hoops FOREVER!

Stay in character, keep that doubt in her mind, keep making her work for you. She wants you, she is not pulling your c0ck out for nothing, man. She is sexually interested in you 100%, no doubt about it. You want her, she wants you..you just need to take control and grab the frame. You need to turn the situation in your favor, you need to convince her that she wants you more than you want her, so that she will try to win YOU over instead of you winning HER over, and she will work for YOU instead of you working for HER.

The outcome is already certain here: the two of you are gonna fvck!! You just need to take control of the situation and lead things towards that outcome LIKE A BOSS! :cool:
 
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